Sugar Daddy Sites

[OhHellYeah]

Are ladies able to see your message if you don't pay for the premium version?

I'm just browsing debating if I want to sign up, but it appears I'm either only messaging bots or the messages aren't actually going out.

SA is a ripoff. I'd say like 99% fake or scammers or flakes. The rest are high end escorts.

[TylerDurd]

Never pay for a M&G. However, if you want to make a HOT girl feel good about screwing you for $ but not like a hooker, you should court her like you would a regular date. My strategy is to have a small token gift at the end of the M&G. I like to use gift cards, either Victoria's Secret or Sephora, which let you say something nice about them. You giving this as a 'gift' puts the relationship on a very different footing than your agreeing in advance to pay them to meet for coffee. I only give this is all systems are go, and we're planning the next meet at the FC. I have heard it said if you don't have a sugar agreement at the end of the M&G, you are unlikely to get it. Some very young / inexperienced girls might be more of a project, if you like that type.

How do you get a freebee M&G then? Seems like many girls won't be down for that. Unless of course you offer a normal date like you said (dinner), in which case you will be paying. Not against that but I'd hate to be used for free food. Do you set up the date as "ill give you a gift afterwards" or do you just go in with no money involved and gift after you've discussed $ plans? This all begs the question on if I should open with my $ offer out of the gate. Itll save time for those not interested but I'm afraid ill lose some high caliber girls if I put it all on the table up front.

[FlakeUmms]

But also I'm wondering how you deal with girls that say they want to meet up "in a week or so". There's an unfortunately high flake rate for me for these and I'm wondering if its worth the effort or if I should just move on? How long in general should I expect to wait before a meet up? And also, do yall just open conversation with your money offer out of the gate or wait a little bit later for that?

I don't have any experience with sugaring but I had a girl last year from Club Fantasy who hit with this same line. We seemed to hit it off and discussed meeting up. She gave me her cell number and I texted her when I got home saying that I was serious about wanting to meet up. She agreed that she was too but when I tried to nail something down, I got "Give me a week. " I was cool with that but after a few days figured I'd never hear from her. She wound up texting me exactly a week later saying she needed a few more days. After that I think I never heard from her again. I didn't bring up PPM because I wasn't totally sure about what was going on but I think that was a rookie blunder. In any case, I think give me a week means that she's waffling and probably going to bail. Put her on the back burner and get to work on someone else.

[ShowMeHow23]

Was she hot at least? Damn I would feel cheated.

She didn't come all dolled up. I would say she's pretty, but not hot like. Angela White or Sophie Dee hot.

[Rouleur]

Are ladies able to see your message if you don't pay for the premium version?

I'm just browsing debating if I want to sign up, but it appears I'm either only messaging bots or the messages aren't actually going out.

Premium is for messaging and ultimately sharing other contact information. Don't be lured into a Premium membership just because you're receiving.

Pms from hot women. Most are not real and simply the worm on the hook.

[LAX310]

Are ladies able to see your message if you don't pay for the premium version?

I'm just browsing debating if I want to sign up, but it appears I'm either only messaging bots or the messages aren't actually going out.

[Poltergeist]

Let's talk strategy gentlemen. I've seen HG giving some good advice here but I'd like to hear yalls thoughts. So basically, I currently make a ppm offer, and try to get her number ASAP. My issue is this. My flake rate is pretty high with girls who initially are down to meet and everything but ghost a bit after. The variables I think are important are 1) getting her to meet ASAP. I think once they meet you irl they are much less likely to flake in the future. I think a big reason for this is that if they're new to the site (what I usually go for), they don't know what the expect money wise. My offer is probably lower than they can reasonably expect to get from some other desperate guys. There's also a general women issue where they'll change their mind about wanting to be a SB on a whim. So if you can someone get them out ASAP I bet that would work great.

So my question is what is yall's policies / experiences on M&G's? I think I'd have a lot of success if I were to offer girls for a quick meet and greet just to chat for a bit. The thing is I don't want to pay unless I'm for sure getting sugar. Have yall had success just meeting up with girls for a casual chat unpayed? I'm pretty confident in my game to work it into going back to my place but I'd hate to waste my $ on girls just looking for free cash (seems like a pandemic on this site. Like this girl today literally said to me "I'm not looking for a relationship or to meet, just looking to get spoiled LMAO).

But also I'm wondering how you deal with girls that say they want to meet up "in a week or so". There's an unfortunately high flake rate for me for these and I'm wondering if its worth the effort or if I should just move on? How long in general should I expect to wait before a meet up? And also, do yall just open conversation with your money offer out of the gate or wait a little bit later for that?

Never pay for a M&G. However, if you want to make a HOT girl feel good about screwing you for $ but not like a hooker, you should court her like you would a regular date. My strategy is to have a small token gift at the end of the M&G. I like to use gift cards, either Victoria's Secret or Sephora, which let you say something nice about them. You giving this as a 'gift' puts the relationship on a very different footing than your agreeing in advance to pay them to meet for coffee. I only give this is all systems are go, and we're planning the next meet at the FC. I have heard it said if you don't have a sugar agreement at the end of the M&G, you are unlikely to get it. Some very young / inexperienced girls might be more of a project, if you like that type.

[Rdyn Nvu]

Was she hot at least? Damn I would feel cheated.

Well, I saw b burke last week. $1. 5 k damage per 90. Wish I didn't do it, got to go bb with TTS results, but she was buried in her phone and after the first pop was nearly dressed and ready to leave saying most guys she sees only cum once and she was ready to bail out. I had to tell her I'm not 90 yrs old and was disappointed.

Yep. YMMV.

[HollywoodGuy]

Anyone message this girl? LOL. Can't be real can it.

Doesn't look real but she made her point. Probably a good time. Whats the link to her profile?

[TylerDurd]

Let's talk strategy gentlemen. I've seen HG giving some good advice here but I'd like to hear yalls thoughts. So basically, I currently make a ppm offer, and try to get her number ASAP. My issue is this. My flake rate is pretty high with girls who initially are down to meet and everything but ghost a bit after. The variables I think are important are 1) getting her to meet ASAP. I think once they meet you irl they are much less likely to flake in the future. I think a big reason for this is that if they're new to the site (what I usually go for), they don't know what the expect money wise. My offer is probably lower than they can reasonably expect to get from some other desperate guys. There's also a general women issue where they'll change their mind about wanting to be a SB on a whim. So if you can someone get them out ASAP I bet that would work great.

So my question is what is yall's policies / experiences on M&G's? I think I'd have a lot of success if I were to offer girls for a quick meet and greet just to chat for a bit. The thing is I don't want to pay unless I'm for sure getting sugar. Have yall had success just meeting up with girls for a casual chat unpayed? I'm pretty confident in my game to work it into going back to my place but I'd hate to waste my $ on girls just looking for free cash (seems like a pandemic on this site. Like this girl today literally said to me "I'm not looking for a relationship or to meet, just looking to get spoiled LMAO).

But also I'm wondering how you deal with girls that say they want to meet up "in a week or so". There's an unfortunately high flake rate for me for these and I'm wondering if its worth the effort or if I should just move on? How long in general should I expect to wait before a meet up? And also, do yall just open conversation with your money offer out of the gate or wait a little bit later for that?

[ShowMeHow23]

Fuck man, what are you thinking?

Wasn't thinking logically, that's for sure. Not doing that again.

[DavidTheSancho]

Anyone message this girl? LOL. Can't be real can it.

[HollywoodGuy]

I'm about to go out on a date with a sugar baby from SA and plan to go in raw with a cream pie finish. If you want to avoid paying child support, my advice is to not to let her know your real name, where you live and use a burner phone. Only exception to this rule is if you really like the SA sugar baby and want to marry her after there's a mutual trust over the years. But if you own any real estate properties and showing off your savings or wealth, she will grab you by the nuts and take you to the economic cleaners through child support and will have to deal with that for the next 18 years. Leins on your house when you're trying to sell, wage garnishments, savings accounts being sucked dry by a bank levy from the division of child support. Be careful because that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living. Think with your big head before taking her to your private fuck chamber.

Snipped 15 years ago after a minor scare. Good move for me. Everyone's situation is unique though.

[FarFarAway]

I'm about to go out on a date with a sugar baby from SA and plan to go in raw with a cream pie finish. If you want to avoid paying child support, my advice is to not to let her know your real name, where you live and use a burner phone. Only exception to this rule is if you really like the SA sugar baby and want to marry her after there's a mutual trust over the years. But if you own any real estate properties and showing off your savings or wealth, she will grab you by the nuts and take you to the economic cleaners through child support and will have to deal with that for the next 18 years. Leins on your house when you're trying to sell, wage garnishments, savings accounts being sucked dry by a bank levy from the division of child support. Be careful because that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living. Think with your big head before taking her to your private fuck chamber.

I am not an aficionado of bare, I am too concerned about my health. Your "that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living" reflects nothing about the reality that I have experienced in the past 3+ years in the bowl, however.

[BigBear818]

Hey guys, I may get some hate here but I'm a young guy, 24, and actually starting to get decent success on these SD sites. I'll tell you from my short experience so far (literally 2 weeks), that it's a double edged sword being young. On the one hand, you have a surprising amount of girls that seem to prefer younger guys (which doesn't make sense cause they're on a SD site ffs), but also I do get a lot of passes because there are many girls specifically looking for a older guy (daddy issues / fantasies). So there's pros and cons to being young and old. I think being young can open up more doors with some of the newer, more casual girls (non pros).

But anyway, my question is what ya'lls advice / experience is with knocking girls up. I really just hate wrapping it up and tbh am not as concerned about STD's as I probably should be. My current strategy is to just go raw but pull out. I did this with a civ GF for a long time and had no issues (my pull out game is pretty strong). I'm totally fine with pulling out every time, I just can't wrap it up. I'm curious what ya'll think of this strategy and how safe it is. For the record, I'm not ready to get a vasectomy because I do plan to have kids at some point, just not now and not with some random girl on SA LOL. And has anyone had to deal with child support / abortion stories?

Also, side note, what does FC mean? I see it here a lot.

I'm about to go out on a date with a sugar baby from SA and plan to go in raw with a cream pie finish. If you want to avoid paying child support, my advice is to not to let her know your real name, where you live and use a burner phone. Only exception to this rule is if you really like the SA sugar baby and want to marry her after there's a mutual trust over the years. But if you own any real estate properties and showing off your savings or wealth, she will grab you by the nuts and take you to the economic cleaners through child support and will have to deal with that for the next 18 years. Leins on your house when you're trying to sell, wage garnishments, savings accounts being sucked dry by a bank levy from the division of child support. Be careful because that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living. Think with your big head before taking her to your private fuck chamber.