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  1. #2639
    Quote Originally Posted by CookieGuy  [View Original Post]
    Ever have a child with a heroin addiction? The number one rule as taught by Naranon is to NEVER give money in any way shape or form. And it is true in EVERY case I have seen. The 500 bucks you gave her went went immediately to her drug connection. Yes we are all contributing to these girls addictions, but don't think you in any way shape or form "helped " her by giving her 500 bucks. You just got ripped off with no services rendered.
    It's funny you should mention that. My ex (now dead from drugs) had a heroin addiction and I recently had to throw a step daughter out of my home because of addiction issues (we are now raising her kids). One of the reasons I posted here is because I thought it may be an drug issue. I simply don't want to waste my money on drug addicts, but if she truly needed help and was doing everything she can to get back on her feet, I'd have zero issues with spending (wasting) money to help. That is what made this so difficult. If it's drugs, I don't give a shit, she can suffer. If she is REALLY struggling, I'm not hurting and I can throw some money at her. I'm simply a realist and I just don't want to waste it on a drug addict or a scammer.

  2. #2638

    Final Result

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    I know most of you will roll your eyes and think I'm a sucker, but I gave her $500. I told her that no matter how embarrassed she is, it's her family's job to help her and she needed to swallow her pride and ask for help. I told her again that she needs to apply for unemployment and get that extra $600 a week and that it was that last she would get from me. Then I blocked her. I feel a tinge of guilt, but I'm not Bill Gates and can't fucking afford to try and save the world.
    Ever have a child with a heroin addiction? The number one rule as taught by Naranon is to NEVER give money in any way shape or form. And it is true in EVERY case I have seen. The 500 bucks you gave her went went immediately to her drug connection. Yes we are all contributing to these girls addictions, but don't think you in any way shape or form "helped " her by giving her 500 bucks. You just got ripped off with no services rendered.

  3. #2637
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonderin  [View Original Post]
    I guess you could call it a Finder's Fee for helping you find the hot one. Any further info on the hot one or is she UTR?
    I don't know what she is. She could make a mint as an escort if she wanted to. I feel like I hit the jackpot. Here's another photo of her.
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  4. #2636
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    All of you have confirmed my thinking and I'm just going to block her. One of the reasons that I choose a SB over almost any provider is that I get to know them a little better and seem to have more of a connection. The one thing I hate about the "other" site is that 99% of the women on there want you to text them when you want to meet, expect you to show up at your allotted time and be ready to walk out the door 59 minutes later. That's fine and they can do what they want, but it simply doesn't work for me.

    This SB was 19 YO and before we hooked up, we talked about her and family and a bunch of shit like that. And she's genuinely a good person. She had a great attitude, it was obvious that she needed money to take care of her kid (s) that she had when she was 16 and 17 (father was no longer around, of course). She always tried to make sure I was happy, if I needed something or a place to go in Miami, she had the hook up. She even set me up with her friend. So, it was a little more than showing up, paying her, fucking her and leaving. I understand with many of the ladies that I meet, it's just a game and way to get money. She was someone with a fucked up life that I was helping out and what I received from her was worth far more than what I paid. So, this is like having a somewhat good acquaintance suddenly having problems and needing help. Unfortunately, I'm thinking of her as a kid that needs help instead of an adult that needs to get her shit together.
    You're a gentleman Michael. You did what you thought was the right thing to do with your money. At the end of the day remember one thing. You are not a chump. You gave her a payment. Told her how it is and blocked her. That made her understand will stand for no more. Plus she all too well realized that you could have blocked her before you gave her anything. So she understands 1) you are a stand-up guy 2) This is the end of the line for hand outs.

  5. #2635
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    I know most of you will roll your eyes and think I'm a sucker, but I gave her $500. I told her that no matter how embarrassed she is, it's her family's job to help her and she needed to swallow her pride and ask for help. I told her again that she needs to apply for unemployment and get that extra $600 a week and that it was that last she would get from me. Then I blocked her. I feel a tinge of guilt, but I'm not Bill Gates and can't fucking afford to try and save the world.
    I guess you could call it a Finder's Fee for helping you find the hot one. Any further info on the hot one or is she UTR?

  6. #2634

    Good man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    I know most of you will roll your eyes and think I'm a sucker, but I gave her $500. I told her that no matter how embarrassed she is, it's her family's job to help her and she needed to swallow her pride and ask for help. I told her again that she needs to apply for unemployment and get that extra $600 a week and that it was that last she would get from me. Then I blocked her. I feel a tinge of guilt, but I'm not Bill Gates and can't fucking afford to try and save the world.
    You're a good man, Michael! Hopefully, she'll get things in order and take care of her kids before she thinks of her next high, but that likely won't happen. Glad you ended it in a way that works for you.

    Rock Chalk.

  7. #2633
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    All of you have confirmed my thinking and I'm just going to block her. One of the reasons that I choose a SB over almost any provider is that I get to know them a little better and seem to have more of a connection. The one thing I hate about the "other" site is that 99% of the women on there want you to text them when you want to meet, expect you to show up at your allotted time and be ready to walk out the door 59 minutes later. That's fine and they can do what they want, but it simply doesn't work for me.

    This SB was 19 YO and before we hooked up, we talked about her and family and a bunch of shit like that. And she's genuinely a good person. She had a great attitude, it was obvious that she needed money to take care of her kid (s) that she had when she was 16 and 17 (father was no longer around, of course). She always tried to make sure I was happy, if I needed something or a place to go in Miami, she had the hook up. She even set me up with her friend. So, it was a little more than showing up, paying her, fucking her and leaving. I understand with many of the ladies that I meet, it's just a game and way to get money. She was someone with a fucked up life that I was helping out and what I received from her was worth far more than what I paid. So, this is like having a somewhat good acquaintance suddenly having problems and needing help. Unfortunately, I'm thinking of her as a kid that needs help instead of an adult that needs to get her shit together.
    At the end of the day it was your money and you decide what to do with it. I see your point but for me it would be like trying to help out an ex if she needed help after we broke up. Call me an asshole but if I end it with someone I don't even want to talk to them and maybe I don't end on bad terms with some of these girls but if we decide to stop seeing each other than it's over and we won't text each other again. Again that's just me but at the end of the day, your choice, and your money. Don't feel guilt though LOL you have nothing to feel bad about.

  8. #2632

    Agreed

    IMO, don't let any SW or monger tell you how to spend your money. Do what you want and what you feel is right. You're a more generous person than me and I would have went a different way, but at the end of the day, it's your $. Spend it how you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    I know most of you will roll your eyes and think I'm a sucker, but I gave her $500. I told her that no matter how embarrassed she is, it's her family's job to help her and she needed to swallow her pride and ask for help. I told her again that she needs to apply for unemployment and get that extra $600 a week and that it was that last she would get from me. Then I blocked her. I feel a tinge of guilt, but I'm not Bill Gates and can't fucking afford to try and save the world.

  9. #2631

    You did fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    I know most of you will roll your eyes and think I'm a sucker, but I gave her $500. I told her that no matter how embarrassed she is, it's her family's job to help her and she needed to swallow her pride and ask for help. I told her again that she needs to apply for unemployment and get that extra $600 a week and that it was that last she would get from me. Then I blocked her. I feel a tinge of guilt, but I'm not Bill Gates and can't fucking afford to try and save the world.
    Like the truly big reason why I don't approve is because (I'm probably projecting here.) I think she's a drug addict and that's what the money was really going towards. But anyway, you're good and did fine.

  10. #2630

    Final result

    I know most of you will roll your eyes and think I'm a sucker, but I gave her $500. I told her that no matter how embarrassed she is, it's her family's job to help her and she needed to swallow her pride and ask for help. I told her again that she needs to apply for unemployment and get that extra $600 a week and that it was that last she would get from me. Then I blocked her. I feel a tinge of guilt, but I'm not Bill Gates and can't fucking afford to try and save the world.

  11. #2629
    Quote Originally Posted by TnaPorter  [View Original Post]
    I do think blocking her is the way to go, but at the same time, I think a lot of the guys responding are being too hard on you about this because I get it. I travel a lot too and there are some women out there that I have a decent connection with. And yes, it's better than what you get with a normal working girl. Like there's this girl I used to see twice a month out in Pensacola. When I'd go out there for work, she'd actually stay with me in my hotel room and we'd spend all day and all night together. I'd slip her $100/ day to help with bills and of course, would pay for all meals and entertainment and what not. Her kids even loved me! (Yes, I took out her kids a bunch). But in the end, she got a boyfriend and it all came to an end when she asked me if I'd slip her some cash to help get her boyfriend's car fixed. Listen, I know weren't a couple, but it's different buying her groceries than it is to pay to fix her boyfriend's alternator. We stopped talking or seeing each other after that, and she completely understood. And you know what? I get the feeling this girl of yours will understand too when you ghost her.
    I have to totally agree here on the helping part. I refuse to help a girl who asks me for money to support her bf. Tell your man to "man up and get a fucking better job and support you. ".

  12. #2628

    Definitely block her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    All of you have confirmed my thinking and I'm just going to block her. One of the reasons that I choose a SB over almost any provider is that I get to know them a little better and seem to have more of a connection. The one thing I hate about the "other" site is that 99% of the women on there want you to text them when you want to meet, expect you to show up at your allotted time and be ready to walk out the door 59 minutes later. That's fine and they can do what they want, but it simply doesn't work for me.
    I do think blocking her is the way to go, but at the same time, I think a lot of the guys responding are being too hard on you about this because I get it. I travel a lot too and there are some women out there that I have a decent connection with. And yes, it's better than what you get with a normal working girl. Like there's this girl I used to see twice a month out in Pensacola. When I'd go out there for work, she'd actually stay with me in my hotel room and we'd spend all day and all night together. I'd slip her $100/ day to help with bills and of course, would pay for all meals and entertainment and what not. Her kids even loved me! (Yes, I took out her kids a bunch). But in the end, she got a boyfriend and it all came to an end when she asked me if I'd slip her some cash to help get her boyfriend's car fixed. Listen, I know weren't a couple, but it's different buying her groceries than it is to pay to fix her boyfriend's alternator. We stopped talking or seeing each other after that, and she completely understood. And you know what? I get the feeling this girl of yours will understand too when you ghost her.

  13. #2627
    Quote Originally Posted by HBadger  [View Original Post]
    Disregard females, acquire currency is your best bet. Why would you give someone thousands of dollars that you'll never see again. If you're seriously asking this question you might need some help in your life LOL if I'm done talking to a girl or she wants to stop, it's over. I'm done. I won't talk to her again and definitely won't give away my hard earned money even if she is in a tough situation as she says. Not my problem anymore.
    All of you have confirmed my thinking and I'm just going to block her. One of the reasons that I choose a SB over almost any provider is that I get to know them a little better and seem to have more of a connection. The one thing I hate about the "other" site is that 99% of the women on there want you to text them when you want to meet, expect you to show up at your allotted time and be ready to walk out the door 59 minutes later. That's fine and they can do what they want, but it simply doesn't work for me.

    This SB was 19 YO and before we hooked up, we talked about her and family and a bunch of shit like that. And she's genuinely a good person. She had a great attitude, it was obvious that she needed money to take care of her kid (s) that she had when she was 16 and 17 (father was no longer around, of course). She always tried to make sure I was happy, if I needed something or a place to go in Miami, she had the hook up. She even set me up with her friend. So, it was a little more than showing up, paying her, fucking her and leaving. I understand with many of the ladies that I meet, it's just a game and way to get money. She was someone with a fucked up life that I was helping out and what I received from her was worth far more than what I paid. So, this is like having a somewhat good acquaintance suddenly having problems and needing help. Unfortunately, I'm thinking of her as a kid that needs help instead of an adult that needs to get her shit together.

  14. #2626
    Quote Originally Posted by MyNickname  [View Original Post]
    Just see the situation as it is, you have helped to the point until you feel you cannot help her more. Regardless if you have or haven't reach the limit of your financial means, you reached a point where your good conscience is even asking itself it is ok to continue helping.

    So, I would let her know that I cannot continue helping her. No need to explain further.
    Disregard females, acquire currency is your best bet. Why would you give someone thousands of dollars that you'll never see again. If you're seriously asking this question you might need some help in your life LOL if I'm done talking to a girl or she wants to stop, it's over. I'm done. I won't talk to her again and definitely won't give away my hard earned money even if she is in a tough situation as she says. Not my problem anymore.

  15. #2625
    Just see the situation as it is, you have helped to the point until you feel you cannot help her more. Regardless if you have or haven't reach the limit of your financial means, you reached a point where your good conscience is even asking itself it is ok to continue helping.

    So, I would let her know that I cannot continue helping her. No need to explain further.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael1967  [View Original Post]
    I travel quite a bit. I usually have a sugar baby in each city that I travel. I mentioned on this site last year that I had a sugar baby that I met in Miami who was pretty nice and cute, but when it was that time of the month for her, she introduced me to her friend. Her friend is amazingly hot, an incredible fuck and quite honestly the best looking woman that I have ever stuck my dick in during my 50+ years of life. Once I met her, I had no interest in the woman that introduced me to her. I have zero plans on seeing the original woman again and have made plans to meet up with the hottie in a few weeks.

    About three weeks ago, the original woman contacted me because she had lost her job because of the Coronavirus. She couldn't come up with rent and was evicted. Florida is nowhere as progressive as Washington State. There are no moratoriums on evictions and even if there were, people would do what they want (one of the reasons I love Florida). I sent her a few hundred dollars, paid for a motel for a week so her and her kids would have a place to stay and told her to get on unemployment and get that extra $600/ week. Since then, I've been getting almost daily requests for money from her. I've been sending a couple of hundred dollars now and then, but I really have no interest in seeing her again and pretty much am doing it because I don't want her or her kids to suffer.

    So, I've been ignoring her daily or sometimes two to three times a day request, simply begging me for money. I have a shit ton of guilt about it, simply because this virus had zero effect on me and my business and I can afford to give her the money. I mean, I have better things to spend my money on, but if she's really in a bad spot, I honestly could throw a couple of grand at her and not miss it that much (I'll definitely miss it, but I don't really "need" it right now or in the near future). The reason I'm so hesitant is that the constant requests for money, the sheer desperation, it smells like drug addict to me. I'm not going to give up my hard earned money so someone can waste it on a drug habit, I used to be married to someone like that.

    I could block her and be done with this, but I really don't like to see someone that I used to fuck suffer (if she's really suffering). Anyone have any thoughts?

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