"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[LikItFun]

Or keeping her to yourself.

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Here's the Andy I've gotten to know. Don't know if it's the same one, but the description fits.

[Skins755]

Richmond gents,

Any intel on this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/80fbb...c-602da8a4a52a

She is also posting on sd4 me and answered one of my messages, but I got the feeling she was only selling pics, kik.

Skins.

[EBob1111]

Er, if a girl blocks you, doesn't that look like she turned off her profile and could still be fishing for a better deal all along?

I have a dummy profile with another user name so I can get on the site and check for that kind of thing, she's off.

[Shampoo55]

. When we "broke up" over PPM she told me she had turned down more money because she liked me. Everything's been great since we started again, she turned off her profile and has earned my trust.

Er, if a girl blocks you, doesn't that look like she turned off her profile and could still be fishing for a better deal all along?

[M9999]

I have 2 babies that I have seen for a while on PPM basis. We have bee. Texting or talking regularly during the lock down. Knowing they were hurting, I did mailed them a little help to while they were waiting for their stimulus or unemployment checks to arrive. It wasn't a lot, but both were extremely appreciative. It just thing like the right thing to do.

Like Kwagmire said, it depends on the circumstances. I would say usually "no", especially if you don't know them well. These girls are trying to extract money from you and they may be very clever to exploit weakness. It would also depend on what you expect to get in return.

Having said that, I must admit that a small number of former SBs have reached out and asked me for help, and being a softie (or some would call a chump) I have helped them with fairly small amounts (less than the cost of a typical date). I'm not sure what I'll get out of that. Probably nothing. But in the present crisis we should all be charitable -- my opinion. Mind you, these were girls I dated for a long time and they were very nice to me. Fortunately I'm anonymous, so I don't mind the chump accusation, LOL. To me it's like giving to Red Cross or a similar charity, without the administrative overhead.

[EBob1111]

If she was offended by the idea of temporary PPM, would you mind sharing how things started off? I'm guessing either you trusted her enough to front her the monthly 800, and she held up her end of the deal, or it was the other way around and she trusted you with a month's worth of free pussy before the first payment?

If the latter, you struck gold. I personally would never agree to the former, but that's a YMMV thing. I always explain to them that trust for each other comes after we know each other. I've had situations where they said "no PPM required, just be there when I need you" and it started that way, and I've had some that flat out said on the first date they are really feeling the chemistry and would be interested in being more than just an arrangement to me. In some cases I've partaken. So, similar situations (pussy first pay later) have definitely happened, but it was never based on me suggesting pussy up front and pay at the end of the month.

We had an initial meet & greet in public, no sex but enjoyed the conversation enough to follow up. Next meeting started out in public, ended up back at her place for sex which was great and she still hadn't brought up money or proposed an amount. It was definitely a leap of faith on my part but I proposed 800/ month and she didn't flinch or hesitate. She held up her end for a month by being available whenever I wanted. When we "broke up" over PPM she told me she had turned down more money because she liked me. Everything's been great since we started again, she turned off her profile and has earned my trust.

[BStreet]

Or keeping her to yourself.

Just meet and greet with Andy. She a little bit of a airhead but she is loads of fun. I will be repeating.

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[OliverNP]

I had been seeing a regular SB for about a month before things started shutting down due to COVID-19. I paid her 800 a month and she would see me once a week and I think we got together twice in a week one time. When things started to shut down I asked if she would be open to PPM for the time being because I didn't know how regular I could be or what my economic situation would be. She got offended and said that felt transactional and I shouldn't come around anymore. A month & 1/2 went by and I saw her back on SA. I reached out to her apologizing for the way I approached it and let her know if she was still interested I could get back to the original arrangement. She was happy to hear from me and will do to that. Saw her Monday and she asked me to come back later this week. She's not putting me on a clock or a meets per week limitation and has earned my trust that I would give her something even if she had to miss a week.

If she was offended by the idea of temporary PPM, would you mind sharing how things started off? I'm guessing either you trusted her enough to front her the monthly 800, and she held up her end of the deal, or it was the other way around and she trusted you with a month's worth of free pussy before the first payment?

If the latter, you struck gold. I personally would never agree to the former, but that's a YMMV thing. I always explain to them that trust for each other comes after we know each other. I've had situations where they said "no PPM required, just be there when I need you" and it started that way, and I've had some that flat out said on the first date they are really feeling the chemistry and would be interested in being more than just an arrangement to me. In some cases I've partaken. So, similar situations (pussy first pay later) have definitely happened, but it was never based on me suggesting pussy up front and pay at the end of the month.

[Snake27]

Would you give allowance without meeting? Like for one week, her schedule just couldn't meet you. Do you still give allowance if she request it?

Like Kwagmire said, it depends on the circumstances. I would say usually "no", especially if you don't know them well. These girls are trying to extract money from you and they may be very clever to exploit weakness. It would also depend on what you expect to get in return.

Having said that, I must admit that a small number of former SBs have reached out and asked me for help, and being a softie (or some would call a chump) I have helped them with fairly small amounts (less than the cost of a typical date). I'm not sure what I'll get out of that. Probably nothing. But in the present crisis we should all be charitable -- my opinion. Mind you, these were girls I dated for a long time and they were very nice to me. Fortunately I'm anonymous, so I don't mind the chump accusation, LOL. To me it's like giving to Red Cross or a similar charity, without the administrative overhead.

[Ricrun]

Just meet and greet with Andy. She a little bit of a airhead but she is loads of fun. I will be repeating.

[Usrbinperl]

Would you give allowance without meeting? Like for one week, her schedule just couldn't meet you. Do you still give allowance if she request it?

That's how it starts. Once they know you're a mark that will give them $ for nothing that will become the norm.

[EBob1111]

My reason to keep things on a PPM basis is precisely to maintain the balance of financial power with me, and not create a feeling of security. You may call it blackmail.

Trusting a female is difficult if her interest in you is financial.

Definitely a case-by-case decision by 99 times out of a hundred I wouldn't trust a SB enough to prepay. This one is an exception and they do exist!

[Dash]

I had been seeing a regular SB for about a month before things started shutting down due to COVID-19. I paid her 800 a month and she would see me once a week and I think we got together twice in a week one time. When things started to shut down I asked if she would be open to PPM for the time being because I didn't know how regular I could be or what my economic situation would be. She got offended and said that felt transactional and I shouldn't come around anymore. A month & 1/2 went by and I saw her back on SA. I reached out to her apologizing for the way I approached it and let her know if she was still interested I could get back to the original arrangement. She was happy to hear from me and will do to that. Saw her Monday and she asked me to come back later this week. She's not putting me on a clock or a meets per week limitation and has earned my trust that I would give her something even if she had to miss a week.

My reason to keep things on a PPM basis is precisely to maintain the balance of financial power with me, and not create a feeling of security. You may call it blackmail.

Trusting a female is difficult if her interest in you is financial.

[EBob1111]

I would say it depends on what kind of Sugar relationship you have with the girl.

If she's your dream girl, half your age or less, cute, reliable, honest, caring, non-greedy where you both truly enjoy spending time, having sex together and the relationship is more than sexual AND you have the means to maintain a "kept woman", then you may consider an ongoing allowance so she has the security of regular income. In my mind, however, any sugar relationship has to evolve into this space over quite some time and until then, it's on a PPM basis only.

Also, I'd want to see and agreement to some give and take on her side before expanding from PPM. For example, if you're in a regular allowance arrangement and you happen to have a lot of availability one week (wife out of town or whatever), and you're exceptionally horny, she should want to make herself available and fuck you silly for the week and not expect any additional allowance. It goes both ways. If she wants to bill in 15 min increments like my lawyer she's never going to be promoted to a regular allowance. She would likely not even be my main girl in that case -- she has the wrong mindset to be a sugar baby, and is better as a straight up prostitute. Girls who are looking for a regular allowance straight out of the gate are almost never the kind of girl you'd want to give a regular allowance to.

I had been seeing a regular SB for about a month before things started shutting down due to COVID-19. I paid her 800 a month and she would see me once a week and I think we got together twice in a week one time. When things started to shut down I asked if she would be open to PPM for the time being because I didn't know how regular I could be or what my economic situation would be. She got offended and said that felt transactional and I shouldn't come around anymore. A month & 1/2 went by and I saw her back on SA. I reached out to her apologizing for the way I approached it and let her know if she was still interested I could get back to the original arrangement. She was happy to hear from me and will do to that. Saw her Monday and she asked me to come back later this week. She's not putting me on a clock or a meets per week limitation and has earned my trust that I would give her something even if she had to miss a week.

[Kwagmire]

Would you give allowance without meeting? Like for one week, her schedule just couldn't meet you. Do you still give allowance if she request it?

I would say it depends on what kind of Sugar relationship you have with the girl.

If she's your dream girl, half your age or less, cute, reliable, honest, caring, non-greedy where you both truly enjoy spending time, having sex together and the relationship is more than sexual AND you have the means to maintain a "kept woman", then you may consider an ongoing allowance so she has the security of regular income. In my mind, however, any sugar relationship has to evolve into this space over quite some time and until then, it's on a PPM basis only.

Also, I'd want to see an agreement for some give and take on her side before expanding from PPM. For example, if you're in a regular allowance arrangement and you happen to have a lot of availability one week (wife out of town or whatever), and you're exceptionally horny, she should be eager and jump through hoops to make herself available and fuck you silly for the week and not expect any additional allowance. It goes both ways. If she wants to bill in 15 min increments like my lawyer she's never going to be promoted to a regular allowance. She would likely not even be my main girl in that case -- she has the wrong mindset to be a sugar baby, and is better as a straight up prostitute. Girls who are looking for a regular allowance straight out of the gate are almost never the kind of girl you'd want to give a regular allowance to.