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  1. #36029

    I'm with you

    Quote Originally Posted by AmpLovr  [View Original Post]
    Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.

    AMP.
    I want to retire too but little one is too fucking active for me to retire. I looked at the GA stats and it seems like most of the fatalities are linked with some underlying problems. There is one death in Cobb county where I monger most of the time, the man was only 29 with no underlying health issues. It is tragic that so many people are dying but if any of us is over 60 or have some health issue then he should retire immediately. On the ohter hand, we can die in car wreck going to Kroger or publix, LOL.

    https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

  2. #36028
    Quote Originally Posted by AmpLovr  [View Original Post]
    Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.

    AMP.
    The issue is that you're going to get it, regardless. It's not going away, and you can't quarantine for 18 months. Our best hope is to put it off for those at risk as long as possible (flatten the curve), and generate antibody pools from younger healthier people, who will get it, and survive to help those who get really sick. This bug is bad, no doubt, but it disproportionately hits older, sicker people. The rest of the population, not in that group, need to be out there working to improve things.

    Whether you get in in an AMP or at Kroger, theres not a lot you can do outside of air seal yourself in place. That's not going to work for most people.

  3. #36027

    Retired

    Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.

    AMP.

  4. #36026
    Quote Originally Posted by GorosDawg  [View Original Post]
    I am not as concerned about the death rate as I am about interacting with the healthcare system right now. The last thing I want to do in the next few weeks is spend time in a hospital where the staff is either over worked, under trained for this crisis or both.
    I think the ladies are going to be quite cautious. I could see handies with all parties wearing masks. But I also think that people who are at high risk of a bad COVID outcome, should stay sheltered in place. At some point, we'll probably be able to identify people who are immune and they can start offering more services to the non-immune. (Services like hair cuts, of course).

    I think Kemp is brave to try to re-open businesses and while it's not going to be risk free, people at risk know who they are and they need to stay quarantined. Everyone else, go out and start spending money because small businesses will not make it otherwise.

  5. #36025
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    Yep its going to end up a .1 to .2%.
    I am not as concerned about the death rate as I am about interacting with the healthcare system right now. The last thing I want to do in the next few weeks is spend time in a hospital where the staff is either over worked, under trained for this crisis or both.

  6. #36024

    We can help

    As these APM's open, it's inevitable mongers and therapists will get infected. Some may show symptoms, some may not. I'm going to hang low for awhile to see how this plays out, but for those that go, if you feel you got infected, report it here. Help others avoid getting infected and spreading this even further.

  7. #36023
    Quote Originally Posted by Oily123  [View Original Post]
    Here's a few factual numbers.

    As of 4-22-2020.

    State of Georgia population: approximately 10.7 million.

    Number of dead from Covid 19 statewide in Georgia: 836.
    And Dougherty county, Georgia has more China virus deaths than does Fulton county. Out of that statewide China virus death total, of those under 60 years old, only 6 are listed as healthy w / no serious existing preconditions, 23 listed as unknown exist preconditions and 75 listed as dying of or with China virus due to their serious preexisting, life threatening health problems.

  8. #36022

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    Well all I know is the virus isn't going anywhere, and the only reason we did the shutdown was to prepare the the hospitals for the surge, and to flatten the curve.

    Staying inside forevermore until there is a vaccine is not even an option, so I agree with kemp 100%. A little common sense goes a long way.

    Nobody knows for sure, but so faR OTHER THAN THE VERY OLD AND VULNERABLE, 99.9 % of the people that get it recover and most are with little or no complications.

    Not 1 of the models have been right so far. So we might as well open things back up, before we have more deaths from people losing everything than the stupid sars2 virus causes anyways. remember the Great Depression 32% unemployment...how many people died because of that?

    How many die for every 1% increase in unemployment? I think its a quite a few. its just silly to self inflict all this damage.

    I don't know. I just trust what I see, more than the experts. All we can do is try to be smart, and everybody go back to work.if it spikes then he can always close back down.

    When every liberal loses their mind over a governor looking out for his state by giving people the OPTION to open up and save THEIR business. Then we see what this is really all about. I think.

    Sorry I guess this is somewhat relevant to this thread.

    M454.
    Common sense is always relevant. Thank you very much.

  9. #36021

    Called Wellness Massage in Cumming today

    Strictly legit place with great massage ladies and manager said they would be opening May 1.

  10. #36020
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Wrong! FYI, COVID-19 is much deadlier than the flu. Updated chart 4/21/2020.
    Wrong!

    [QUOTE]These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases. Conclusions The population prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Santa Clara County implies that the infection is much more widespread than indicated by the number of confirmed cases. Population prevalence estimates can now be used to calibrate epidemic and mortality projections.[/QUOTEhttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....14.20062463v1

    It would put the mortality rate between 0. 01% and 0. 02%.

    There's also reports (and autopsies) coming out showing this has been in the US longer than originally thought.

  11. #36019
    Quote Originally Posted by AaronHamlet  [View Original Post]
    That's of confirmed cases. US testing going on now suggests 10-15% of all had China virus. If so, fatality rate down to flu level at around 0.2%. Italy 21,300 dead over age of sixty, 1,030 under age of sixty. Italy population at 60 million.
    Yep its going to end up a .1 to .2%.

  12. #36018
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    FYI, The data source is the CDC's FluView Interactive, which lists data for the 50 states plus New York City.

    Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.

    Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history.

    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
    Here's a few factual numbers.

    As of 4-22-2020.

    State of Georgia population: approximately 10.7 million.

    Number of dead from Covid 19 statewide in Georgia: 836.

  13. #36017
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    FYI, The data source is the CDC's FluView Interactive, which lists data for the 50 states plus New York City.

    Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.

    Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history.

    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
    Well all I know is the virus isn't going anywhere, and the only reason we did the shutdown was to prepare the the hospitals for the surge, and to flatten the curve.

    Staying inside forevermore until there is a vaccine is not even an option, so I agree with kemp 100%. A little common sense goes a long way.

    Nobody knows for sure, but so faR OTHER THAN THE VERY OLD AND VULNERABLE, 99.9 % of the people that get it recover and most are with little or no complications.

    Not 1 of the models have been right so far. So we might as well open things back up, before we have more deaths from people losing everything than the stupid sars2 virus causes anyways. remember the Great Depression 32% unemployment...how many people died because of that?

    How many die for every 1% increase in unemployment? I think its a quite a few. its just silly to self inflict all this damage.

    I don't know. I just trust what I see, more than the experts. All we can do is try to be smart, and everybody go back to work.if it spikes then he can always close back down.

    When every liberal loses their mind over a governor looking out for his state by giving people the OPTION to open up and save THEIR business. Then we see what this is really all about. I think.

    Sorry I guess this is somewhat relevant to this thread.

    M454.

  14. #36016
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    I think when its all said and done it'll end up being. 010 of 1% death rate
    As Georgia has a population of approximately 10.5 million, ". 01 of 1%" equals approximately 1050 people. We have lost 838 as of this writing with little sign of a let up. The Governor's efforts to open the economy early will only cause the death rate to increase, so I think your estimate is wildly optimistic.

  15. #36015
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    Yes but we don't have the correct data.

    I think when its all said and done it'll end up being. 010 of 1% death rate.

    No way to know till they, the cdc, does there testing and get hard numbers. Not a model done by a guy at some university that's basically an educated guess, that wasn't too good thus far.
    FYI, The data source is the CDC's FluView Interactive, which lists data for the 50 states plus New York City.

    Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.

    Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history.

    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

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