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  1. #37458

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    Well all I know is the virus isn't going anywhere, and the only reason we did the shutdown was to prepare the the hospitals for the surge, and to flatten the curve.

    Staying inside forevermore until there is a vaccine is not even an option, so I agree with kemp 100%. A little common sense goes a long way.

    Nobody knows for sure, but so faR OTHER THAN THE VERY OLD AND VULNERABLE, 99.9 % of the people that get it recover and most are with little or no complications.

    Not 1 of the models have been right so far. So we might as well open things back up, before we have more deaths from people losing everything than the stupid sars2 virus causes anyways. remember the Great Depression 32% unemployment...how many people died because of that?

    How many die for every 1% increase in unemployment? I think its a quite a few. its just silly to self inflict all this damage.

    I don't know. I just trust what I see, more than the experts. All we can do is try to be smart, and everybody go back to work.if it spikes then he can always close back down.

    When every liberal loses their mind over a governor looking out for his state by giving people the OPTION to open up and save THEIR business. Then we see what this is really all about. I think.

    Sorry I guess this is somewhat relevant to this thread.

    M454.
    Common sense is always relevant. Thank you very much.

  2. #37457

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  3. #37456
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Wrong! FYI, COVID-19 is much deadlier than the flu. Updated chart 4/21/2020.
    Wrong!

    [QUOTE]These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases. Conclusions The population prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Santa Clara County implies that the infection is much more widespread than indicated by the number of confirmed cases. Population prevalence estimates can now be used to calibrate epidemic and mortality projections.[/QUOTEhttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....14.20062463v1

    It would put the mortality rate between 0. 01% and 0. 02%.

    There's also reports (and autopsies) coming out showing this has been in the US longer than originally thought.

  4. #37455
    Quote Originally Posted by AaronHamlet  [View Original Post]
    That's of confirmed cases. US testing going on now suggests 10-15% of all had China virus. If so, fatality rate down to flu level at around 0.2%. Italy 21,300 dead over age of sixty, 1,030 under age of sixty. Italy population at 60 million.
    Yep its going to end up a .1 to .2%.

  5. #37454
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    FYI, The data source is the CDC's FluView Interactive, which lists data for the 50 states plus New York City.

    Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.

    Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history.

    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
    Here's a few factual numbers.

    As of 4-22-2020.

    State of Georgia population: approximately 10.7 million.

    Number of dead from Covid 19 statewide in Georgia: 836.

  6. #37453
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    FYI, The data source is the CDC's FluView Interactive, which lists data for the 50 states plus New York City.

    Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.

    Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history.

    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
    Well all I know is the virus isn't going anywhere, and the only reason we did the shutdown was to prepare the the hospitals for the surge, and to flatten the curve.

    Staying inside forevermore until there is a vaccine is not even an option, so I agree with kemp 100%. A little common sense goes a long way.

    Nobody knows for sure, but so faR OTHER THAN THE VERY OLD AND VULNERABLE, 99.9 % of the people that get it recover and most are with little or no complications.

    Not 1 of the models have been right so far. So we might as well open things back up, before we have more deaths from people losing everything than the stupid sars2 virus causes anyways. remember the Great Depression 32% unemployment...how many people died because of that?

    How many die for every 1% increase in unemployment? I think its a quite a few. its just silly to self inflict all this damage.

    I don't know. I just trust what I see, more than the experts. All we can do is try to be smart, and everybody go back to work.if it spikes then he can always close back down.

    When every liberal loses their mind over a governor looking out for his state by giving people the OPTION to open up and save THEIR business. Then we see what this is really all about. I think.

    Sorry I guess this is somewhat relevant to this thread.

    M454.

  7. #37452
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    I think when its all said and done it'll end up being. 010 of 1% death rate
    As Georgia has a population of approximately 10.5 million, ". 01 of 1%" equals approximately 1050 people. We have lost 838 as of this writing with little sign of a let up. The Governor's efforts to open the economy early will only cause the death rate to increase, so I think your estimate is wildly optimistic.

  8. #37451
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike454  [View Original Post]
    Yes but we don't have the correct data.

    I think when its all said and done it'll end up being. 010 of 1% death rate.

    No way to know till they, the cdc, does there testing and get hard numbers. Not a model done by a guy at some university that's basically an educated guess, that wasn't too good thus far.
    FYI, The data source is the CDC's FluView Interactive, which lists data for the 50 states plus New York City.

    Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.

    Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history.

    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

  9. #37450
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Wrong! FYI, COVID-19 is much deadlier than the flu. Updated chart 4/21/2020.
    Yes but we don't have the correct data.

    The experts are saying there are 50 to 95 times as many infections as the models are showing.

    Models are only as good as the data that you enter.

    The guy that did the "gold standard model" has redid it 7 times and it keeps going down.

    Now down to 60 k deaths or less by September. Thats a long way from the 500,000 he had on his first model, that's was used to scare us all into shutting to entire country down.

    I think when its all said and done it'll end up being. 010 of 1% death rate.

    No way to know till they, the cdc, does there testing and get hard numbers. Not a model done by a guy at some university that's basically an educated guess, that wasn't too good thus far.

  10. #37449
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Wrong! FYI, COVID-19 is much deadlier than the flu. 4/21/2020.
    Agreed. In the last 24 hours, Georgia had an additional 767 cased diagnosed and 42 additional deaths. What could possibly go wrong by opening the AMP's early?

  11. #37448
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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Wrong! FYI, COVID-19 is much deadlier than the flu. Updated chart 4/21/2020.
    Yeah, C-19 is like the flu on nitrous.

  12. #37447
    Quote Originally Posted by AaronHamlet  [View Original Post]
    That's of confirmed cases. US testing going on now suggests 10-15% of all had China virus. If so, fatality rate down to flu level at around 0.2%. Italy 21,300 dead over age of sixty, 1,030 under age of sixty. Italy population at 60 million.
    Wrong! FYI, COVID-19 is much deadlier than the flu. Updated chart 4/21/2020.
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  13. #37446
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldti  [View Original Post]
    5% fatality rate and in Italy it's 13%.
    That's of confirmed cases. US testing going on now suggests 10-15% of all had China virus. If so, fatality rate down to flu level at around 0.2%. Italy 21,300 dead over age of sixty, 1,030 under age of sixty. Italy population at 60 million.

  14. #37445
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbyMan51  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. I would not look for a widespread opening of parlors on Friday. The state was quite specific with the term "therapists" and made no mention of "parlors". With the current state of Covid-mindset, including parlors would be irresponsible and would only invite more negative criticism from those who wish to keep the economy strangled until it no longer twitches.
    Possibly, but all we've heard (unless you have a hidden mic in Kemp's office) is that broad term of 'therapists,' so I assume it includes parlors. The official "edict" (e-based order written by dicks) is likely too vague and violently ripe for misinterpretation.

    Factoid 1: Called several CAMP / KAMP favorites and only 1 of 15 are willing to open Friday. Some are playing it by ear so, last minute decision. I ain't going.

    Factoid 2 (an example of how wildfires start): Some are now theorizing that a rancid fart could spread C-19. If so, I will nominate a nasty bastard on my high school football team as the root cause of the pandemic.

    Science, abundant resources and common sense should dictate the new re-awakening. I really feel sorry for those suffering; however, re-opening these businesses Friday when the latest GA C-19 numbers are spiking will further delay the green light. The Kemp-er just took a big dump on his popularity rating.

  15. #37444
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbyMan51  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. I would not look for a widespread opening of parlors on Friday. The state was quite specific with the term "therapists" and made no mention of "parlors". With the current state of Covid-mindset, including parlors would be irresponsible and would only invite more negative criticism from those who wish to keep the economy strangled until it no longer twitches.
    The massage girl you see in a lot cases has the same license any other American massage therapist has no matter how they got it. Yes there are unlicensed therapist both American and Chinese. But if they have a license its the same license. A good many girls have it. Or managers or owners. The stores can open but I feel that very few will in the Chinese sector because they are super worried still.

    Yestheydo.

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