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  1. #9657
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    Open MPs

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKentley  [View Original Post]
    Makayla is giving massages in Grand Rapids!? Sign me up!

    Slightly more seriously, are any MP's in the area open? I know, probably ludicrously stupid to even be considering it but holy hell I need a massage. Heck, if any legit spots were open I'd go there first. I'm in Holland and the three crappy MP options here are closed, probably good because I almost always regret it. Still STG seems to be getting overrun with scammers as fewer people are willing to provide services. Understandably
    Some providers are advertising on STG that have been at MPs prior to lockdown. Layla, Haley, Blonde 25, Ari, Ashley and others.

    Also I'd guess some are open but officially closed. Touch of Paradise always has cars parked there. Worth a try.

  2. #9656

    Angel

    Quote Originally Posted by Russians  [View Original Post]
    This is a pic of porn star Makayla LOL.

    https://xhamster.com/photos/gallery/makayla-8063787
    Thanks guess I need get up to pace on pornstars.

  3. #9655
    Senior Member


    Posts: 337

    Massage rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    Sadly that's become a moving target. Before BP went down parlors had door rates $40 half and $60 hour.
    For a topless HJ it was expected you'd tip the door fee. So half hour with topless happy ending was 40 door +40 tip.
    You might tip an extra 20 for a great experience but that was the default rates most places. A few exceptions existed but generally that was the deal. Anything more than HJ was negotiated. I paid 80-100 tip for BBBJ to a few that offered it. I paid 100 or more for FS for those that offered that.
    Then BP went down. Prices went crazy. I had a girl at Pacific explain to me that a lot of former mongers who used BP became parlor customers and the girls all raised their tip fees. I was told 100 tip for topless HJ by not so hot girls repeatedly to the extent I flat stopped seeing massage girls. I can get GFE escort service from several girls for under 100 half total so why am I going to pay 140 for a halfass massage and a topless HJ?
    Fuck that.

    That's my opinion. No offense to guys here paying top dollar. But I'm not paying it.
    When I started years back, almost everyone offered massages at 40 hhr60 hr. Parlors were known for upsell + door fee so most of my experiences were with ladies offering incall or private location. Almost always the tip was never discussed.

    Then girls started going to flat rates. Or rates high enough that it shouldn't be expected to tip. Personally I have less of an issue with this on the parlor side if you know what you're getting and you can avoid the upsell. The funny thing is, do you recall any escort talking about tips in their rates? So why does an escort offer competitive or cheaper services with no tipping involved and more services than the flip and tug? And what if the massage sucks?

    The hybrid escort + masseuse is where it's at. Not all guys need a FS provider but getting a massage with a little GFE and a wider menu is the best of both worlds!

    If you're looking for a great experience without breaking the bank on the massage side, try Julia Sweetcheeks, Aliese, Sweet Megan or Arii. All of these girls will give a great hour session for $120-140 and that's if you tip matching the donation.

    If you want massage + GFE and more, go see Riley or Hunter. Both their skill sets extend beyond the table.

    Then there is the flat rate crew. Hayley, Layla, B25. I've seen them all and will see again but understand they are popular enough to request higher than market rates because the demand is there. They are all uniquely sensual and worth a trip. But yes they charge more and I think it's more of the exception than the rule.

  4. #9654

    Any MP's open?

    Quote Originally Posted by Russians  [View Original Post]
    This is a pic of porn star Makayla LOL.
    Makayla is giving massages in Grand Rapids!? Sign me up!

    Slightly more seriously, are any MP's in the area open? I know, probably ludicrously stupid to even be considering it but holy hell I need a massage. Heck, if any legit spots were open I'd go there first. I'm in Holland and the three crappy MP options here are closed, probably good because I almost always regret it. Still STG seems to be getting overrun with scammers as fewer people are willing to provide services. Understandably.

  5. #9653

    Angel

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyDreamer  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone seen this Angel. Not much luck in the search feature. Thanks.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...y/198388320787
    This is a pic of porn star Makayla LOL.

    https://xhamster.com/photos/gallery/makayla-8063787

  6. #9652

    Joyy - 40 yr old

    Unbelievable she would ask for a tip like that with all those interruptions and the overall shorting of the appointment. Thanks for sharing this.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/199218431350

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTrack  [View Original Post]
    She use to give a great massage! I use to see her every 7-10 days when she was at 28/ eastern.

    Then she was trying to manage / run the place off Division /44th. I had an appointment with her that sucked. She let massage room 9 times for minutes at a time. The last time she came back in room and told me I had to go and that she was going to have to owe me 20 minutes that she was shorting me. I explained l felt she owed more since I paid for an hour and I was only there a half hour, plus she left the room 9 times! She didn't feel the same. Whatever, take care Joy. 10 hours later she's drunk, blowing up my phone telling me how upset she was I didn't leave her a tip and she knows she gives best massage in GR. I asked her not to call or text me as she's going to cause problems for me. She demanded 100 tip! Nope, not doing that for the maybe 5 minute massage that I already had 60 into. Crazy!! I hung up.

    She then called several times over the next hour (11 pm) then left a shitty voicemail that went on so long my voicemail disconnected. I blocked her # and haven't reached again, for obvious reasons! LOL. YMMV!

    Good luck guys and stay safe!

    Twotrack.
    Quote Originally Posted by NoseJelly  [View Original Post]
    Curious if any one has acted on this ad?

    Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.
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  7. #9651

    Ashley aka Winter aka Wynter - 22 yr old

    Well that sucks! It appears she double booked. Could have been a mistake but more likely she is doing that counter no shows and cancellations. I get it, the no shows and cancellations suck. But providers should not be double booking us.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    After seeing some of the talk on here I decided to try to set something up with Ashley. Easy to set up and reasonable rates. Let me know to meet her at a hotel off 28th st. Let her know I arrived and she told me what door to meet her at. As I parked I saw a girl let a guy in and didn't think anything of it. Let her know I was there and immediately got a call from her. She said she let the wrong guy in and now didn't have anywhere to meet. Said I would have to wait. Thought about it for a minute and decided it all seemed too strange to me. Let her know I would just try to set something up a different time. She thanked me and apologized. I'm sure there is more to the story but didn't want to wait around to find out. Just wanted to share my experience.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
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  8. #9650
    Sadly that's become a moving target. Before BP went down parlors had door rates $40 half and $60 hour.
    For a topless HJ it was expected you'd tip the door fee. So half hour with topless happy ending was 40 door +40 tip.
    You might tip an extra 20 for a great experience but that was the default rates most places. A few exceptions existed but generally that was the deal. Anything more than HJ was negotiated. I paid 80-100 tip for BBBJ to a few that offered it. I paid 100 or more for FS for those that offered that.
    Then BP went down. Prices went crazy. I had a girl at Pacific explain to me that a lot of former mongers who used BP became parlor customers and the girls all raised their tip fees. I was told 100 tip for topless HJ by not so hot girls repeatedly to the extent I flat stopped seeing massage girls. I can get GFE escort service from several girls for under 100 half total so why am I going to pay 140 for a halfass massage and a topless HJ?
    Fuck that.

    That's my opinion. No offense to guys here paying top dollar. But I'm not paying it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this, I'm still learning what the going rates are.

  9. #9649

    Angel

    Has anyone seen this Angel. Not much luck in the search feature. Thanks.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...y/198388320787

  10. #9648

    Blonde25

    Not completely new to the hobby but first time posting.

    Saw Blond25 several weeks ago. Overall the experience was 6/10. Ending was good but massage was just OK. She talked the entire time and kind of seemed like she was just passing time to get to the ending. I would have liked more teasing and generally just more effort during the massage portion.

    Setup was easy and in-call is clean and convenient. Damage was 1. 8/ hr. Probably won't repeat anytime soon.

  11. #9647
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie441  [View Original Post]
    $100 for 30 m for standard massage HJ -- And tip? Yikes. She works on her own (no cut to a parlor), and I know that her experience is more fruitful and all, but unless she's going by the standard 40/ hhr -- I believe a tip isn't expected to be given, unless it's an upsell beyond standard-ops on the flip.
    Thanks for this, I'm still learning what the going rates are.

  12. #9646
    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    Set up an appt with Brittany awhile back now. Easy set up and a nice location. Rate was $ for 30 minutes. Massage was good, she likes to talk a lot but it does make you feel comfortable. Body slide and standard HJ on the flip. I will say everything seemed clean and I appreciated that. Left a tip and had some small talk on the way out. Everything was good but nothing special.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...5/838331048614
    $100 for 30 m for standard massage HJ -- And tip? Yikes. She works on her own (no cut to a parlor), and I know that her experience is more fruitful and all, but unless she's going by the standard 40/ hhr -- I believe a tip isn't expected to be given, unless it's an upsell beyond standard-ops on the flip.

    Sounds like she doubled booked your time and went with the first guy that arrived. You got an apology and the option of sitting around in a hotel parking lot waiting for her to be done with the other guy. You made the right choice by leaving. Time is money and she wasted yours.
    Yeah, that's pretty ballsy by her -- two guys, same time, same door. The only way I'd try again with her would be "Okay, I'm on my way. I'm not in a double-booking foot race to the door this time, right? *smiley*" If she gets upset, then, well, that only strengthens the notion that she has a bug up her arse. If she chuckles with it and apologizes and says No way, not making that mistaken again -- Hmmm, Alright, let's try this out.

  13. #9645

    Joy

    Quote Originally Posted by NoseJelly  [View Original Post]
    Curious if any one has acted on this ad?

    Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.
    She use to give a great massage!

    I use to see her every 7-10 days when she was at 28/ eastern.

    Then she was trying to manage / run the place off Division /44th.

    I had an appointment with her that sucked.

    She let massage room 9 times for minutes at a time. The last time she came back in room and told me I had to go and that she was going to have to owe me 20 minutes that she was shorting me.

    I explained l felt she owed more since I paid for an hour and I was only there a half hour, plus she left the room 9 times!

    She didn't feel the same.

    Whatever, take care Joy.

    10 hours later she's drunk, blowing up my phone telling me how upset she was I didn't leave her a tip and she knows she gives best massage in GR.

    I asked her not to call or text me as she's going to cause problems for me.

    She demanded 100 tip!

    Nope, not doing that for the maybe 5 minute massage that I already had 60 into.

    Crazy!!

    I hung up.

    She then called several times over the next hour (11 pm) then left a shitty voicemail that went on so long my voicemail disconnected.

    I blocked her # and haven't reached again, for obvious reasons! LOL.

    YMMV!

    Good luck guys and stay safe!

    Twotrack.

  14. #9644

    Ashley

    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    After seeing some of the talk on here I decided to try to set something up with Ashley. Easy to set up and reasonable rates. Let me know to meet her at a hotel off 28th st. Let her know I arrived and she told me what door to meet her at. As I parked I saw a girl let a guy in and didn't think anything of it. Let her know I was there and immediately got a call from her. She said she let the wrong guy in and now didn't have anywhere to meet. Said I would have to wait. Thought about it for a minute and decided it all seemed too strange to me. Let her know I would just try to set something up a different time. She thanked me and apologized. I'm sure there is more to the story but didn't want to wait around to find out. Just wanted to share my experience.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
    Sounds like she doubled booked your time and went with the first guy that arrived. You got an apology and the option of sitting around in a hotel parking lot waiting for her to be done with the other guy. You made the right choice by leaving. Time is money and she wasted yours.

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    The next time you mention the name Benz I'm banning you.

    I'm not trying to "protect" him, I don't know him. This thread is about massage parlors not your obsession with him.

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