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  1. #6680

    Yes times have indeed changed

    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    Mr. Vtown. I as well through the 80's while on those streets would cruise up and down the rush street area, up and down the north side and the local fuzz could care less. Of course this is all before all the eyes in the sky and cell phones (you know, the devices where everyone and his brother and his brother in law think they are fuzz!) I remember picking up and chatting with providers right on clark or broadway (both main drags) and then just taking them to a side street. I mean if one follows the monger rules listed on here and just uses common sense I really don't think there will be issues. Look the reality is these providers are desperate and since desperate people do desperate things one is occasionally going to be pick pocketed or be a victim of cash and dash. However, money can be replaced. Once you are gone you are gone. While driving a cab one late night from downtown to the south side of chi-town I came real close to being gone! Held up at knife point so I got very luck and I cooperated with the crazy! I live on thankfully. Keep safe all. It's rough right now because all the sides (mongers, providers, fuzz) are spooked these days. Stosh peace and out
    Great stuff StanS. I remember traveling to Los Angeles in the late 80's Early 90's With a buddy. There were probably 25 S. W. s Walking up and down Broadway, in front of CITY HALL At noon. Las Vegas was and still is different. I asked my buddy what L. A. P. D. Thought about the girls in thongs and spandex walking on City halls sidewalk. He said, L. A. P. D. Turns a blind eye until they feel like it. He said all major cities were the same. You had to play cat and mouse with the L. V. M. P. D. No breaks man. As for a busted windshield being the worst, Physical material stuff like you said is nothing. I did pick up a blond once around 10 Years ago. Half way to my place she thought I was someone else who had previously beat her up. It almost got ugly as she was freaking out. Lucky for myself, she bailed out at a red light. Been up sold countless times. But you saying the local fuzz didn't care, Yep I seen it in L. A. Be Well.

  2. #6679

    Could have been

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegasmatt  [View Original Post]
    I remember that one. But wasn't that like a small town?
    Vegas matt. It has to be from the 80's. I am old so my memory is well gone, however I thought it was right down in a hot area like on sunset. What I loved about it is that someone in the department had to bring that idea to their superior! For that convo I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall! Course with hollywood and all it might have all been just done for the cameras when they realized cops was going to film it all for tv. This dude in a clown costume, balloons in the back seat and this little beat up hugo. I mean the visual just killed me!

  3. #6678

    Yes times have indeed changed

    Quote Originally Posted by VTown1968  [View Original Post]
    You got it Stan. The past 10 Years I changed it up a bit. I will now grab a provider and get off the streets to avoid LE. In the 80's And 90's, forget about it. I got story's.
    Mr. Vtown. I as well through the 80's while on those streets would cruise up and down the rush street area, up and down the north side and the local fuzz could care less. Of course this is all before all the eyes in the sky and cell phones (you know, the devices where everyone and his brother and his brother in law think they are fuzz!) I remember picking up and chatting with providers right on clark or broadway (both main drags) and then just taking them to a side street. I mean if one follows the monger rules listed on here and just uses common sense I really don't think there will be issues. Look the reality is these providers are desperate and since desperate people do desperate things one is occasionally going to be pick pocketed or be a victim of cash and dash. However, money can be replaced. Once you are gone you are gone. While driving a cab one late night from downtown to the south side of chi-town I came real close to being gone! Held up at knife point so I got very luck and I cooperated with the crazy! I live on thankfully. Keep safe all. It's rough right now because all the sides (mongers, providers, fuzz) are spooked these days. Stosh peace and out!

  4. #6677

    Thank You

    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    V town. Ump and I are back here on the chicago boards. Same principles apply back here. In those days though I had the stamina to nut a few times a day as well. I was on the street driving a cab or delivering pizza so I had a few nice shall I say, breaks! Anyway today yea out there still looking and agree common sense must prevail even though the little guy is ready to stand at attention. The worst that happened to me was when a provider got sticky fingers while she was attending to the little guy. I was lucky and was only out and extra 40 or so. Had my windshield busted out, however that was during my pizza days. Dumb me locked the doors with the pies in the shotgun seat. Thanks again to all the great guys in vegas that keep us back here informed. Stosh peace and stay safe all!
    You got it Stan. The past 10 Years I changed it up a bit. I will now grab a provider and get off the streets to avoid LE. In the 80's And 90's, forget about it. I got story's.

  5. #6676
    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    From someone observing back here in chi-town. Every time I see posts like this I think back of a cops episode out in la la land on sunset I believe where they did a reverse sting. A cop was riding around in a beat up hugo in a birthday clown costume with a bouquet of balloons in the back seat and of course the show had sound on him so we heard the convo. Once the girl got into the car he drove away a bit, stopped and then the signal to move in was he reached back, got the balloons and released them into the air! I have to find that on you tube! When this actually aired (must have been early 90's) I was rolling on the floor!
    I remember that one. But wasn't that like a small town?

  6. #6675
    Quote Originally Posted by HolyStone1975  [View Original Post]
    It's also one of the reasons the 'cop check' is useless. If they have a cooperating female, she is not a cop and so who can say if that is illegal.
    I would be willing to wager that most of the time a bust is by a cop and not because.

    Of a cooperating witness. I think the cop check is not useless but not perfect either.

    A cop won't get in your car.

    Then again I hardly ever pick up SW's anymore. Too many reviewed sure things online.

  7. #6674

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by VTown1968  [View Original Post]
    I've been mongering the Las Vegas streets since 1986. I've never saw a jail cell nor been arrested. I call it a bit of common sense and a lot of LUCK. At one time in the Early 90's I was copping 2 A day, 5 Days a week. I put 200,000 Miles on a 1989 Chevy truck in 4 YEARS. From mongering, sometimes 6 To 8 Hours a day, hundreds of miles just looking for a better one than I just observed. I've had a few run ins with unsavory S. Ws. The worst thing I ever suffered was a broken windshield which is bad enough. A little recon, don't be seen driving around the block 6 Times by LE. And it all worked out. SO FAR.
    V town. Ump and I are back here on the chicago boards. Same principles apply back here. In those days though I had the stamina to nut a few times a day as well. I was on the street driving a cab or delivering pizza so I had a few nice shall I say, breaks! Anyway today yea out there still looking and agree common sense must prevail even though the little guy is ready to stand at attention. The worst that happened to me was when a provider got sticky fingers while she was attending to the little guy. I was lucky and was only out and extra 40 or so. Had my windshield busted out, however that was during my pizza days. Dumb me locked the doors with the pies in the shotgun seat. Thanks again to all the great guys in vegas that keep us back here informed. Stosh peace and stay safe all!

  8. #6673

    Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ump1969  [View Original Post]
    I always enjoy reading the Vegas board. You guys out there find more girls in a day than many cities have in a week or a month, including mine. I did find some of the most recent topics interesting. The definition of prostitution is sex traded for money. That would seem to mean the girl does not need to get in the car. But some of the busiest tracks in the country are in the worst neighborhoods with the most shady mongers. That, by itself, could make it dangerous for a decoy to get in a car. We have all heard the stories from girls about bad things happening to them. I would think decoys would try to avoid that, whether it be Figueroa in LA, 5th in Chitown or other seedy areas. Also, you don't know how even some otherwise calm mongers are going to react when busted. The guy with a wife and 3 kids, who serves as a lay pastor, and a member of the Chamber of Commerce, watching his life go up in smoke in an instant when he's told he's busted might not have a calm reaction. My own rule is not to even mention sex or money if she talks through the window and refuses to get in the car. Also, be careful when picking up a crack *****, especially when she wants to go to her spot. She doesn't care about you. There might be someone she knows at the spot waiting for you. She doesn't care if LEO has an eye on the spot- she's only thinking about getting that next hit. As always, read the guidelines for pickups and listen to the many voices of experiences commenting here. Don't forget some of the more experienced mongers have learned certain things the hard way, including myself.
    I've been mongering the Las Vegas streets since 1986. I've never saw a jail cell nor been arrested. I call it a bit of common sense and a lot of LUCK. At one time in the Early 90's I was copping 2 A day, 5 Days a week. I put 200,000 Miles on a 1989 Chevy truck in 4 YEARS. From mongering, sometimes 6 To 8 Hours a day, hundreds of miles just looking for a better one than I just observed. I've had a few run ins with unsavory S. Ws. The worst thing I ever suffered was a broken windshield which is bad enough. A little recon, don't be seen driving around the block 6 Times by LE. And it all worked out. SO FAR.

  9. #6672
    Quote Originally Posted by Camera3  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure the guys who were under the mistaken believe that if a girl got in the car they were home free are relieved to know the girl that actually did get in the car resulting in their arrest wasn't an actual cop but a "cooperating female. ".

    At the end of the day, they still got their picture in the paper.

    C3.
    It's also one of the reasons the 'cop check' is useless. If they have a cooperating female, she is not a cop and so who can say if that is illegal.

  10. #6671

    Exceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Camera3  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure the guys who were under the mistaken believe that if a girl got in the car they were home free are relieved to know the girl that actually did get in the car resulting in their arrest wasn't an actual cop but a "cooperating female. ".

    At the end of the day, they still got their picture in the paper.

    C3.
    Just shows there are exceptions to every rule and this one, while perhaps a very isolated exception, sort of blows the comfort level of 'if she get's in the car'. Ouch!

  11. #6670
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2464

    I'm sure the guys feel better knowing that

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesj  [View Original Post]
    If you read the article, it was a "cooperative female " being used as a decoy. Thus she was NOT an uncover police officer.

    JAMESJ.
    I'm sure the guys who were under the mistaken believe that if a girl got in the car they were home free are relieved to know the girl that actually did get in the car resulting in their arrest wasn't an actual cop but a "cooperating female. ".

    At the end of the day, they still got their picture in the paper.

    C3.

  12. #6669

    Cooperative Female

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwampHawk  [View Original Post]
    I find it highly unlikely that decoys will enter a car, and far less likely that, if they did, they'd allow anyone to drive anywhere. YMWAV (Your Mileage Will ALWAYS Vary! And there's an exception to every rule. I'm sure someone, somewhere, at sometime got first hand experience to the contrary, but there's no percentage in betting on meteor strikes. As I've often opined: "There's a helluva lot more erratic than erotic in this pursuit!

    What informs my opinion: Many years training LE and swat teams. Conversations with vice commanders and decoys. Conversations with guys busted by decoys. May aspects of the hobby vary greatly depending upon varying state statues and customs; but this one appears to be pretty constant. You may have a different opinion, but mine's quite solid on this issue.

    HH, SS,

    -SH.
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendInTheDay  [View Original Post]
    https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news...a69c703ae.html

    I'm not sure how they operate out in Vegas but I can promise you decoys can and will get in cars in other states.
    If you read the article, it was a "cooperative female " being used as a decoy. Thus she was NOT an uncover police officer.

    JAMESJ.

  13. #6668

    Decoys in cars

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwampHawk  [View Original Post]
    I find it highly unlikely that decoys will enter a car, and far less likely that, if they did, they'd allow anyone to drive anywhere. YMWAV (Your Mileage Will ALWAYS Vary! And there's an exception to every rule. I'm sure someone, somewhere, at sometime got first hand experience to the contrary, but there's no percentage in betting on meteor strikes. As I've often opined: "There's a helluva lot more erratic than erotic in this pursuit!

    What informs my opinion: Many years training LE and swat teams. Conversations with vice commanders and decoys. Conversations with guys busted by decoys. May aspects of the hobby vary greatly depending upon varying state statues and customs; but this one appears to be pretty constant. You may have a different opinion, but mine's quite solid on this issue.

    HH, SS,

    -SH.
    https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news...a69c703ae.html

    I'm not sure how they operate out in Vegas but I can promise you decoys can and will get in cars in other states.

  14. #6667

    Enjoyable

    I always enjoy reading the Vegas board. You guys out there find more girls in a day than many cities have in a week or a month, including mine. I did find some of the most recent topics interesting. The definition of prostitution is sex traded for money. That would seem to mean the girl does not need to get in the car. But some of the busiest tracks in the country are in the worst neighborhoods with the most shady mongers. That, by itself, could make it dangerous for a decoy to get in a car. We have all heard the stories from girls about bad things happening to them. I would think decoys would try to avoid that, whether it be Figueroa in LA, 5th in Chitown or other seedy areas. Also, you don't know how even some otherwise calm mongers are going to react when busted. The guy with a wife and 3 kids, who serves as a lay pastor, and a member of the Chamber of Commerce, watching his life go up in smoke in an instant when he's told he's busted might not have a calm reaction. My own rule is not to even mention sex or money if she talks through the window and refuses to get in the car. Also, be careful when picking up a crack *****, especially when she wants to go to her spot. She doesn't care about you. There might be someone she knows at the spot waiting for you. She doesn't care if LEO has an eye on the spot- she's only thinking about getting that next hit. As always, read the guidelines for pickups and listen to the many voices of experiences commenting here. Don't forget some of the more experienced mongers have learned certain things the hard way, including myself.

  15. #6666
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2946

    Pffftttt

    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    From someone observing back here in chi-town. Every time I see posts like this I think back of a cops episode out in la la land on sunset I believe where they did a reverse sting. A cop was riding around in a beat up hugo in a birthday clown costume with a bouquet of balloons in the back seat and of course the show had sound on him so we heard the convo. Once the girl got into the car he drove away a bit, stopped and then the signal to move in was he reached back, got the balloons and released them into the air! I have to find that on you tube! When this actually aired (must have been early 90's) I was rolling on the floor!
    That might have been a good episode but I bet no one remembers this one the episode where the dog was chasing the guy the dog trapped him and the guy let loose a roundhouse kick to the dog does anyone remember that on greatest episode of cops ever IMHO!

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