Rants and Raves

[Aaron Hamlet]

This is all talk

Zero talk. All data. Hard facts. All you did was talk though. US news and world reports? History channel?* We have no immunity? Where's your data? You privy to the results obtained from antibodies testing done on a massive scale? What percent of population has / had virus but didn't / don't know it or suffered from only mild symptoms? 30,40, 50%? We were all on top of one another as virus spread like wildfire. Your data for that? Second wave, Round 2,3,4 going to be worse? Where's your data, Dr. ? Spanish flu from 100 years ago? What effect did the massive global troop movements during WW I have on Spanish Flu second wave? Your data on that? 'Everyone' says social distancing is the only reason numbers are lower? Your data, hard facts on that? You have none. Zero. You spout unsubstantiated bullshit.

0. 00677093% of all Americans have died from China virus. Fact. Hard data. A2 wrote you could pack 100,000 China Virus+ (40) year olds and younger into a stadium and only two would die. Fact. Hard data.

Don't talk to me about burying my family, motherfucker. You one dumb motherfucker. That's not talk. That's a fact. Hard data derived from your meaningless rambling bullshit.

[Jims2321]

Current US death rates from China Virus:

0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.

NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.

Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.

State of Georgia stats from yesterday:

0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.

0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.

0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.

I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.

Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.

These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.

For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.

Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.

This is all talk, until you have to bury a loved family member that died from this virus. We have no immunity. We have no long term statistics on the effect post infection. We don't know if getting it and recovering makes one immune. Evidence out of China & Korea suggests otherwise.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-re...positive-again

Yes these maybe asymptomatic or mild, but think about that. That means that any vaccine currently being developed will most likely not be effective.

Everyone is so quick to point to stats. Okay here is a few.

Annual influenza kills on average of 36,000 Americans a year (a YEAR). For a death rate of. 1%.

"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that flu-associated deaths in the US ranged from about 3000 to 49,000 annually between 1976 and 2006. The CDC notes that the often-cited figure of 36,000 annual flu-related deaths was derived from years when the predominant virus subtype was H3 N2, which tends to be more lethal than H1 N1. ".

This diease has killed a reported 20,000+ in 2 months. Understand that is reported. Because we have a much better monitoring / reporting system for seasonal flu, deaths from that are general well documented. Deaths from this diease are way under report as many corpses have not been check to see if Covid was the cause or a contributing factor. Either way, the medical community admits to under reporting it.

So let's say we are low side of the casualty count of 60,000 death. That makes this at least 2 x more deadly. And we have yet to see what it does to the a lot of the country.

As note by everyone. Social Distancing is the only reason that the number are lower, and the curve is flattening out. But like the 1918 Spanish Flu, most of the deaths were the following years in 1919 and 1920. Yes it took 3 years before it died down, and we had some actually immunity to it to begin with.

https://www.history.com/news/spanish...ave-resurgence

Guess what, we go back to our pre pandemic ways and round 2 will be a lot fucking worse. And yes there will be a round 2.

So go ahead a ***** about the economy, bemoan the fact that our past time is impacted. But don't think for a second that you can't be the cause of death for your parent, aunt, spouse, or other family member.

[Waarthog]

Current US death rates from China Virus:

0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.

NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.

Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.

State of Georgia stats from yesterday:

0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.

0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.

0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.

I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.

Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.

These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.

For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.

Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.

Wonderful Post you give a great perspective.

[Sgt Soros]

The key here is testing! The U.S. now leads the world in COVID-19 cases/deaths. We have tested less than 1 percent of the U.S. population of 328 million. The 2.67 million people tested so far show 560,000 cases of COVID-19 with 22,000 deaths. Do the math and see what would happen if we don’t have stringent social distancing measures in place.

Current US death rates from China Virus:

0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.

NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.

Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.

State of Georgia stats from yesterday:

0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.

0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.

0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.

I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.

Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.

These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.

For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.

Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.

[Niteluvr]

Really? We should impose sanction on China for next 500 years? LOL. Well the Spanish flue originated in Kansas killed somewhere between 50 to 200 million people. So, everyone other country should have sanctioned US?? We live in a globalized world since 1600 when the Europeans went around and savaging all other continents and countries on this earth and bringing home all the wealth.

We should have better solution than sanction like good health care system in the best, badest and richest country in the world. We should be ready for pandemic like this and have some safe guards in place. This one is not going to be the last one.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...eline-1918.htm

Guess you be a foreigner with limited Engrish, so I'll try to spell it out in simple terms since you are biased, can't read and can't comprehend.

1. The word was globalized in 1600? The US of A was a fledgling nation then, struggling to survive in small communities on the east coast.

2. The origins of Spanish flu (not flue, fuckstick) are unknown but thought to have originated from where else? China! US troops fighting in WWI brought it back from Europe.

3. I changed my mind. We should sanction whatever fuckstick country you came from since you don't appreciate this wonderful country and trash it when you think you have the balls to do so. Come to me and I will show you why you should not exist.

4. If you give an ounce of shit about your adopted country, then try giving a shit for once, not taking. My European ancestors came to this country, worked their balls off, never complained, and BUILT everything that your sorry ass enjoys. Instead of being a whiny, selfish pussy which my ancestors would kill for fun, why not step up to the plate and do something positive?

I bet not, since you are nothing more than a whiny punk. WE, the people, are tired of your shit kind. You need to GTFO.

[HobbyMan51]

Let me help you. This data is from the Italian Public Health ministry compiled from the cases they had.

In the age groups 10-40 the mortality rate of C-19 is. 02% that means out of every 100,000 people with confirmed cases in those age groups 20 will die.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...x-demographics

Further the Italian medical authorities found that 99% of those that did die had pre-existing conditions, diabetes, obesity, asthma, heart disease, something like that. So that means that if we back that up to 90% (give it a margin of error) that of those 20 who died 2 of them wouldn't have had an underlying health risk.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

To represent that graphically the picture attached is the new River Plate stadium in the city of Buenos Aires Argentina. It's "official capacity" is 70,000 but since we are a third world country they routinly pack more than that into it. The most people who have ever been here was a super classico between River and Boca Jr's at 102,000 people. Using the numbers genuine, bone fide experts in the medical field if this stadium was packed to standing room only capacity of people between the ages of 10 and 40 and each and every one of them had been tested and was confirmed to have a real, honest to god, no shit, no fooling case of Covid 19 then exactly two of them would die not having underlying conditions.

Seriously, 2 people. Before you answer, this isn't Red Sox and Yankees the economy of the fucking world is in balance, you can look at the data and change your mind and start demanding change. Let's put the old people up in super luxury hotels and feed them caviar omelettes and give them foot rubs until there is a vaccine. I'm not saying they should die.

8,200 people a day die in the US every day. 3,000,000 people every year, if 100,000 more die from C-19 then it's only a 3% increase. This hysteria has to stop.

Oh, and if you filled the stadium up with people from 40-50 then 40 of them would die and 4 without underlying conditions.

If they were 50-60 (my group) 100 would did and 10 of them would have been healthy when they caught it.

Seriously, 2 people, that's not bullshit, you can run the numbers yourself. The media has you convinced C-19 is a death sentence like ebola, it's not.

A2.

Thank you. People need to understand the future ramifications of allowing the media, and to a certain extent the medical community, to frighten us into submission. They have finally proved how easy it is to bring life as we know it to a halt, something that is especially sinister when political agendas are attached. I completely agree that this hysteria must stop. We also must never let them do this to us again. I'll reply to your earlier reply to me tomorrow. Thanks again for the numbers breakdown. Very important to see.

[Admin2]

We have folks like you out there crunching the numbers for us. I'll stick to the experts in medical field. In the meantime, please. By all means. Go hug as many of your friends as possible. I'm all for thinning out the dummy herd during the pandemic.

Let me help you. This data is from the Italian Public Health ministry compiled from the cases they had.

In the age groups 10-40 the mortality rate of C-19 is. 02% that means out of every 100,000 people with confirmed cases in those age groups 20 will die.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...x-demographics

Further the Italian medical authorities found that 99% of those that did die had pre-existing conditions, diabetes, obesity, asthma, heart disease, something like that. So that means that if we back that up to 90% (give it a margin of error) that of those 20 who died 2 of them wouldn't have had an underlying health risk.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

To represent that graphically the picture attached is the new River Plate stadium in the city of Buenos Aires Argentina. It's "official capacity" is 70,000 but since we are a third world country they routinly pack more than that into it. The most people who have ever been here was a super classico between River and Boca Jr's at 102,000 people. Using the numbers genuine, bone fide experts in the medical field if this stadium was packed to standing room only capacity of people between the ages of 10 and 40 and each and every one of them had been tested and was confirmed to have a real, honest to god, no shit, no fooling case of Covid 19 then exactly two of them would die not having underlying conditions.

Seriously, 2 people. Before you answer, this isn't Red Sox and Yankees the economy of the fucking world is in balance, you can look at the data and change your mind and start demanding change. Let's put the old people up in super luxury hotels and feed them caviar omelettes and give them foot rubs until there is a vaccine. I'm not saying they should die.

8,200 people a day die in the US every day. 3,000,000 people every year, if 100,000 more die from C-19 then it's only a 3% increase. This hysteria has to stop.

Oh, and if you filled the stadium up with people from 40-50 then 40 of them would die and 4 without underlying conditions.

If they were 50-60 (my group) 100 would did and 10 of them would have been healthy when they caught it.

Seriously, 2 people, that's not bullshit, you can run the numbers yourself. The media has you convinced C-19 is a death sentence like ebola, it's not.

A2.

[Niteluvr]

Shit, why stop there. They should start yanking us out of our homes like they do in certain parts of China and force us into quarantine and compliance. Go ahead and microchip all of us so we can track who's been treated or not. Get rid of fiat money, because it can be contaminated. Separate the Jews from the Gentiles in these makeshift shelters. Do you peoples hear yourselves? I always thought the New World Order conspiracies were fake, but the more I look at what's going on today with you sheeple lining up to go to the slaughterhouse, I'm starting to believe that there's some real truth to that. This whole Corona farce seems like a really bad Hollywood movie.

Must be a rant since there's no logic in what you said. Covid can be serious, as anyone sucking wind in a ventilator can attest to. That said, I don't shit if someone hits the panic button. It's like anything else, just roll with it.

[TechSticles]

Be careful what you wish for.

You have no idea.

[ST0808]

True, turd percentages of the whole, but one death from the Chinese-born plague in this country is too much and we're setting new records. If even that one death was from your family, would you be proud that it originated from a stank, wet market in China? Hometown Chinese, open-air markets are filthy as hell. Same goes for other Asian countries. Korea, for example, had some really dirty markets in Seoul, Daegu, Inchon and Busan as late as 2005. They've done a good job of improving things, and Korea is much more advanced than China.

That said, it's one thing to consume "food" that is weird to us, yet it doesn't matter as long as it's clean. It's quite another that those foreign markets operate in such dirty conditions so as to foster breeding grounds for viruses and shit not yet defined that can infest the world.

I truly wish that the world powers would secretly impose sanctions or other actions that would have serious economic effects on China for the next 500 years. They deserve it.

Really? We should impose sanction on China for next 500 years? LOL. Well the Spanish flue originated in Kansas killed somewhere between 50 to 200 million people. So, everyone other country should have sanctioned US?? We live in a globalized world since 1600 when the Europeans went around and savaging all other continents and countries on this earth and bringing home all the wealth.

We should have better solution than sanction like good health care system in the best, badest and richest country in the world. We should be ready for pandemic like this and have some safe guards in place. This one is not going to be the last one.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...eline-1918.htm

[Aaron Hamlet]

I'm all for thinning out the dummy herd during the pandemic.

Be careful what you wish for.

[TechSticles]

We have folks like you out there crunching the numbers for us. I'll stick to the experts in medical field. In the meantime, please. By all means. Go hug as many of your friends as possible. I'm all for thinning out the dummy herd during the pandemic.

Current US death rates from China Virus:

0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.

NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.

Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.

State of Georgia stats from yesterday:

0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.

0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.

0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.

I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.

Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.

These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.

For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.

Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.

[Aaron Hamlet]

Current US death rates from China Virus:

0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.

NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.

Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.

State of Georgia stats from yesterday:

0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.

0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.

0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.

I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.

Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.

These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.

For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.

Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.

[TechSticles]

Corona virus is exxagerrate government man-made nonesence. It's fake! Trump was correct at 1st. Its the powers that be that wanted to shut down the economy. They stand to gain alot from this, not me and you.

You should stick to writing really long reviews about chicks. You're good at that. Clearly figuring out bigger shit is out of your grasp. Reading q-anon much?

[Jims2321]

I'm dying here boys. 4 weeks in the house on top of each other. No quick visits to SiSi for a great massage, little Asian titties and a, hypothetically, a decent handjob. No rubratings girls, no business travel adventures. At this point, I'd pay $$ to sit 6 feet away from a sexy massage girl and stroke my little dick off. So. Please stop bickering about politics.

This is what it devolves to, when stuck at home and bombard 24 x 7 on TV and internet with the pandemic. Soon enough it will turn to economics and recovery (god help us then). Then the really politics debates start in September as we approach the general elections!