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  1. #9595

    Layla

    Was traveling through town late last week and ended up connecting with Layla. We always have fun together and I feel the $150 fee is fair to me. Her communication skills are what sell me on her. Always quick responses and can usually get me right in.

  2. #9594

    Emily

    I had the pleasure of seeing Emily again. No secret that she's my ATF. I reached out to see how she was doing and if she was still working through all of this shutdown horseshit. She is seeing select regulars at her private residence to stay on the DL for the shut down. So good news for those of us who have taken the time to get to know her a little. At this point, bad news for those who've never seen her or who've seen her few and far between. She did mention something about some changes that may be made with her practice in the near future once this pandemic shit flies over. But I'll leave it to her to share the details on a case by case basis at this point. If you are one of her regulars, hit her up, support our local small businesses / sole proprietors during these times.

  3. #9593

    Shadow

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.


    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
    Were you wearing a stormtrooper helmet for PPE or was that her request?

  4. #9592

    Ashley

    I'd have to agree with Benz on Ashley. I've seen her numerous time including once since her maternity leave. Ashley is perhaps a bit guarded till she is comfortable with someone and a little respect goes a long way with her. After getting to know her I began offering her a massage before getting mine. I've been very happy with all my appointments! She's a beautiful young lady that is working hard to provide for her child. She's definitely one of the best looking women offering massage in GR and that's going to command a higher price.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    The answer is yes she had a baby 7 months ago. And her itiy bitty titties have improved. I hadn't seen or heard from her in awhile until she started sending me her pregnancy nudes. Bonus pics that she knows I would never share without her permission. It seems like nobody on this board knows her. A couple hints just in case you take the plunge, she's very young looking and a natural beauty no makeup required her looks seem to attract those who are feverishly seeking the very young. If she detects a pedophile personality, she gets grumpy. She loves a good foot massage, I always start with giving her a foot massage to completely relax her. I've brought her chocolate from Sweetlands too.

    Correct, I might have been her only good review on this board but she's still in the business and has a clientele that might not read this board.

    After reading recent comments about her, I sent her a message and she sent this back to me.

    I had my child 7 months ago and went threw a crazy break up of course I had to change things up become new and improved.

    Young girl having a baby and breaking up with the daddy. Might make her grumpy, she seems to be over it. And she's offering CFS looks like a lot has changed.

    Ashley is a very cool drug free provider for me.
    If Frenz of Benz want to speak to her openly about price and menu, I have a password you can use to have that conversation.
    Stay safe everyone.

  5. #9591
    Senior Member


    Posts: 337

    Ashley Wynter

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaul  [View Original Post]
    Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.

    I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.

    If not, it doesn't look or sound honest.

    I saw several reports of very poor service and thievery. Has she made up with any of these people? In fact, I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
    I can't seem to reply to Benz's post when logged in. All of his posts disappear, so I'll reply to my own.

    Based on recent info regarding Ashley:

    - prices and services reserved for Frenz of Benz only? What happened to reporting honestly in this review board?

    - you need to buy her things and service her to get her in a good mood.

    Still need to clarify on the pics: are they her or not? Did she score a whole new set of ink?

    I wouldn't think of myself as rude but I don't think I'm up for the task that's been laid out to please this girl. Maybe a few people will have a positive experience with her and care to write a legitimate, honest review.

    Having a young child is a rough time and I do wish her the best though. Maybe a return back to the biz means better attitude / service.

  6. #9590
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423

    Ashley Winter

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaul  [View Original Post]
    Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.

    I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.

    I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
    The answer is yes she had a baby 7 months ago. And her itiy bitty titties have improved. I hadn't seen or heard from her in awhile until she started sending me her pregnancy nudes. Bonus pics that she knows I would never share without her permission. It seems like nobody on this board knows her. A couple hints just in case you take the plunge, she's very young looking and a natural beauty no makeup required her looks seem to attract those who are feverishly seeking the very young. If she detects a pedophile personality, she gets grumpy. She loves a good foot massage, I always start with giving her a foot massage to completely relax her. I've brought her chocolate from Sweetlands too.

    Correct, I might have been her only good review on this board but she's still in the business and has a clientele that might not read this board.

    After reading recent comments about her, I sent her a message and she sent this back to me.

    I had my child 7 months ago and went threw a crazy break up of course I had to change things up become new and improved.

    Young girl having a baby and breaking up with the daddy. Might make her grumpy, she seems to be over it. And she's offering CFS looks like a lot has changed.

    Ashley is a very cool drug free provider for me.
    If Frenz of Benz want to speak to her openly about price and menu, I have a password you can use to have that conversation.
    Stay safe everyone.

  7. #9589
    If its the old Wynter from Serenity the archives are chock full of shitty reviews of her. I think the only positive reviews came from Benz. I suspect based on his luck with finding talent over the years that Benz is much more charming than most of us frankly. Its a great advantage. I try to be respectful when I'm with the girls but I'm not all that charming. The 2 things are similar, but not exactly the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaul  [View Original Post]
    Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.

    I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.

    If not, it doesn't look or sound honest.

    I saw several reports of very poor service and thievery. Has she made up with any of these people? In fact, I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226

  8. #9588
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions?
    I strongly believe that's included and Why it's higher than normal. Her friend Justice (see link below) explained to me many moons ago. Justice was pushing to do the prostate thing which I kept declining. Saw her twice, but man, was she lobbying for it. Anyway, her explanation in what she (and Layla) do is the prostate massage as part of their schtick that most mongers who see them want. So basically, if you take into consideration that the full time + no extra tip + the tip of their finger massaging your prostate, while being nice looking ladies -- you realize why $150 out the door for 45 m isn't a bad thing. Assuming you're a fan of the prostate probe, of course.

    Met her while backpage was live and while she offered FS. Never paid her asking price. Seen her downtown at a festival, not worth the 150 $ in the looks department. If I recall I paid like. 40 or. 60 for each date.
    To be fair though, when times change, things differ in what they want / expect / get. I wouldn't expect her or anyone else with a flow of hungry monger customers for upper-level massages at 150, negotiating over text for even just 100 for full service side-dates.

    Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.
    Yeah, I've noticed you always pointing that out. But during roughly the same times that you would, being established at Serenity, others would repeatedly have issues with her on the small and big side of things. I never saw it as a toss-up of neg / pos reviews. Mainly not good, where her attitude / POV out of the gate was never great. I do want to try myself, but I feel like I'd be telling myself "I told you so", turning into a pay-a-lot-she's-hot-and-lets-you-know-that in a not-much-more than standard massage ops. But from your feedback, it sounds like If one were to get in her comfort zone, she can be a pretty decent hot-pricey-option.

    'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.
    I was thinking the same thing. Didn't seem like her, from the looks of it. Both lots of tattoos, same genre of look & hair color, but other than that, I'm not seeing it (cut off face in posted pics though). Could be, though, maybe. Maybe changed things up, maybe used pics of someone who looks kinda like her, who knows.

  9. #9587
    Senior Member


    Posts: 337

    In the eye of the beholder

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    If that's accurate, that is indeed ludicrous for a simple rub and tug from a 45 year old lady! I have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions? Are there any more objective guys who have seen her care to provide a little information on her cost / service? Also what area of town I would have to travel to?
    I've seen Layla a few times - 3 total I think. Both at the MP and privately. The price of admission is what keeps me from seeing her more frequently.

    Personally I find her demeanor quite enjoyable, part sexy, part devilish, part MILF who gets turned on by teasing you. I'd say her massage is average with what you find in GR. If she opened up a little more of the GFE playbook at the same rate I'd be a frequent flyer.

    Service wise she was more open to activity earlier on than she is now. If I'm spending $150 I would like GFE but I will say that she makes up for it partly with her spunky personality. She's like the mom you definitely want to fuck, she's knows it and she won't let you, but she uses that to tease and make the experience enjoyable.

    I would definitely recommend once, maybe twice to see if she meets your expectations with costs being considered. Maybe you'll hit it off, maybe not. IMO it's worth trying.

    Stay safe out there.

  10. #9586
    Senior Member


    Posts: 337

    Is this Ashley the same as Wynter?

    Seeing a lot of posts about Ashley.

    I'm straight up confused. The girl in the pics in the ad below doesn't seem to look like the Ashley Wynter that had bad service and a bad attitude. The Wynter I recall seeing post was pregnant, had VERY different tattoos and was small chested. Did she have a kid, get a boob job and replace all her old ink with new stuff in the last few months? Even the face and hair don't look the same.

    If not, it doesn't look or sound honest.

    I saw several reports of very poor service and thievery. Has she made up with any of these people? In fact, I don't recall a single positive review outside the Frenz of Benz circle. Or am I missing something?

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226

  11. #9585
    Unlike most of the girls we are all debating price about, she is that fuckin hot that I get how she commands hi rates. I won't pay it. But I get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    I've touched Ashley plenty of times any where I want except FIV and FIB. It's the approach that matters to a lot of these girls, I never use the grab and go approach. They don't like scratchy dirty fingernails in their pussy either. I respect their boundaries and usually get what I need.

    Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.

    While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.

    She's no longer at Royal which gives her more flexibility on cost and rules.

    She's offering Massage and cfs to generous sanitized gentleman without the grab and go attitude. After she returns to Royal there will be No cfs option. Rules are Rules. Frenz of Benz can have open conversation with Ashley using a password.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226

  12. #9584
    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    I've touched Ashley plenty of times any where I want except FIV and FIB. It's the approach that matters to a lot of these girls, I never use the grab and go approach. They don't like scratchy dirty fingernails in their pussy either. I respect their boundaries and usually get what I need.

    Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.

    While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.

    She's no longer at Royal which gives her more flexibility on cost and rules.

    She's offering Massage and cfs to generous sanitized gentleman without the grab and go attitude. After she returns to Royal there will be No cfs option. Rules are Rules. Frenz of Benz can have open conversation with Ashley using a password.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
    Damn, that is a nice ass!

  13. #9583

    Layla

    Met her while backpage was live and while she offered FS. Never paid her asking price. Seen her downtown at a festival, not worth the 150 $ in the looks department. If I recall I paid like. 40 or. 60 for each date.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    If that's accurate, that is indeed ludicrous for a simple rub and tug from a 45 year old lady! I have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions? Are there any more objective guys who have seen her care to provide a little information on her cost / service? Also what area of town I would have to travel to?

  14. #9582
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423

    Ashley Winter

    Quote Originally Posted by Toes63  [View Original Post]
    She has been working out of Royal Touch starting tip is $ and she won't let you touch her.
    I've touched Ashley plenty of times any where I want except FIV and FIB. It's the approach that matters to a lot of these girls, I never use the grab and go approach. They don't like scratchy dirty fingernails in their pussy either. I respect their boundaries and usually get what I need.

    Ashley has always been good for me. I taught her how to give me a massage while she was at Serenity. We've traded Massages often the last time is while she was working at Royal about 6 weeks ago. We had a great time and included the girl at the desk because she wasn't busy. It's the approach. When we enter a Providers room with a grab and go attitude we will get the same Back to us.

    While she was at serenity, she gave me permission to snap a few pics, while massaging her. I'm in the pic too. The dark area is my shadow.

    She's no longer at Royal which gives her more flexibility on cost and rules.

    She's offering Massage and cfs to generous sanitized gentleman without the grab and go attitude. After she returns to Royal there will be No cfs option. Rules are Rules. Frenz of Benz can have open conversation with Ashley using a password.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
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  15. #9581
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveTheLips  [View Original Post]
    Oh ok, what is her current asking rate? It used to be something crazy like 150 for 45 min. And that was pretty much for just a HJ.
    If that's accurate, that is indeed ludicrous for a simple rub and tug from a 45 year old lady! I have heard though that she does prostrate massage too for those that are into that, is that included automatically in the $150 for 45 minutes, or is that an upcharge? It seems like some of her promoters don't want to provide any pricing information on her, just glowing promotions? Are there any more objective guys who have seen her care to provide a little information on her cost / service? Also what area of town I would have to travel to?

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