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**Missionary Man** · 03-23-20 16:25

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/natura...mpression=true

**WarpFactor69** · 03-20-20 23:50

Originally Posted by MissionaryMan [View Original Post]

Yeah. For sure. The girls are essential no matter the situation. Remember to wash your hands for at least 20 seconds.

Missionary Man.

You are correct, sir. It is the biological imperative.

**Missionary Man** · 03-20-20 23:46

Originally Posted by TrollingObt [View Original Post]

A case could be made that the girls are essential.

Yeah. For sure. The girls are essential no matter the situation. Remember to wash your hands for at least 20 seconds.

Missionary Man.

**TrollingObt** · 03-20-20 21:59

Originally Posted by MissionaryMan [View Original Post]

Orange County issues countywide curfew from 11 pm To 5 am, except for essential personnel.

Missionary Man.

A case could be made that the girls are essential.

**Rudiger** · 03-20-20 18:21

Originally Posted by MissionaryMan [View Original Post]

Orange County issues countywide curfew from 11 pm To 5 am, except for essential personnel.

Missionary Man.

Apparently, the curfew had already been in effect since March 13. I had no idea.

**WarpFactor69** · 03-20-20 16:25

Originally Posted by Warpfactor69 [View Original Post]

I find this link interesting, thought I would share it with the rest of the community. It gets updated at least daily:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/healt...ate/index.html

You may find it interesting if you pick a few states, for example, a place you have family or you have lived before, whatever. Make a mental note of the number of cases. Wait a few days then checked that same link again and notice the difference.

**Missionary Man** · 03-20-20 15:38

Orange County issues countywide curfew from 11 pm To 5 am, except for essential personnel.

Missionary Man.

**Big Bob III** · 03-18-20 22:36

Here's the simulation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...bb_vxni6-0Svdw.

**Big Shock** · 03-18-20 22:06

And that assumes that "runs its course," doesn't mean seasonal like the flu; if it's seasonal that means "second verse, same as the first a little bit louder and a little bit worse. " That further assumes that the only deaths are from the virus itself and that nobody dies who didn't have to because our health care "system" crashes and burns under the weight of the millions of new sick and dying. Every time someone compares the death rate of COVID to something else they forget to include in their calculation that the something else is for a full year, not for a couple of months. The reason we are doing the shitty option 2 is because option 1 is even shittier.

We didn't really do option 1 with Swine and Bird flu it's just that the rate at which they spread was so different that most of us didn't notice that we did option 2. Right now, our best guess suggests that people can be asymptomatic and contagious for weeks. With Swine and Bird flu, that period of time when a person might have transmitted the disease was measured in days and almost always accompanied by symptoms; it made it much easier for health care officials to track and quarantine both those who were infected and those who came in contact with the infected. Between the way it spreads and the lack of tests, COVID is almost impossible to get out in front of like that. Option 2 assumes that you are isolating everyone who may have come in contact with someone who is infected. With COVID that's everyone in the country, because until we can test everyone there is no way of knowing who has it and who doesn't. COVID is also different from Swine Flu because COVID appears to survive a relatively long time on surfaces and different from Bird FLu because Bird Flu very rarely transfers human to human.

So basically door number 1 would give us door number 2 PLUS the added bonus of millions dead instead of thousands, which is probably what we are looking at right now, if we are lucky. I'm going with door number 2, and since so many people who enjoy are hobby are in the most vulnerable population they should be happy with door number 2 also.

Originally Posted by Camera3 [View Original Post]

You are correct. It is a nasty bug. Not because the bug is particularly nasty, as in, it isn't the zombie apocalypse, but because of the origin of the bug. This virus runs rampant among animals (as does bird flu and swine flu of the past). Animal viruses can mutate and infect humans, but then humans don't give them to other humans. This one percolated in a live animal market in China and figured out a way to become human to human. If you have ever been to a third world market, you can understand how that can happen. It has since mutated one more time, so people can now get it twice.

The problem with that is, viruses that spread human to human run into those of us that have some cousin viruses that we contracted at some point in our lives that fight it off enough that we don't get sick, especially if we drank from garden hoses, swam in lakes and streams, and other practices now deemed unsafe. Not so with any animal virus that has mutated. Our human immune system doesn't know what to do with it.

For most of us, it is a dry cough that may last a month (and we are contagious that whole month), or the symptoms of maybe a bad cold, but to those with other issues, like compromised immune systems or a history of lung issues (like, you smoked heavy your whole life), those people are hozed. This bug can scar lungs in the worst cases, and that is how it kills people.

Sad, but there only two strategies to fight it. #1, let it spread until everyone gets sick, some die, and it runs the course. #2, keep people separated from each other, thus, starving the damn bug.

Our political leaders have chosen #2 without any consideration to what that means (basically, the same financial outcome as if it was the zombie apocalypse). And that strategy may not work well, anyway. Looking back, we may decide #1 was the wiser (like we did with the swine flu and bird flu).

As you can see, I paid attention in Biology 203 way back when.

Play safe, and stock up on toilet paper.

C3.

**Missionary Man** · 03-18-20 18:07

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**NcGuy661** · 03-18-20 16:38

Originally Posted by Warpfactor69 [View Original Post]

I find this link interesting, thought I would share it with the rest of the community. It gets updated at least daily:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/healt...ate/index.html

Another link to see cases near you.

https://www.coronainusa.com/

**WarpFactor69** · 03-18-20 16:36

I find this link interesting, thought I would share it with the rest of the community. It gets updated at least daily:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/healt...ate/index.html

**Camera3** · 03-18-20 16:10

Originally Posted by Rudiger [View Original Post]

Good info that goes a long way to explaining how we got to this point. It would have been nice if our leaders had done it a long time ago. Today's situation might have turned out to be quite a bit less dire.

Ronald Reagan said it best, "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. ".

**Rudiger** · 03-18-20 09:06

Originally Posted by Camera3 [View Original Post]

You are correct. It is a nasty bug. Not because the bug is particularly nasty, as in, it isn't the zombie apocalypse, but because of the origin of the bug. This virus runs rampant among animals (as does bird flu and swine flu of the past). Animal viruses can mutate and infect humans, but then humans don't give them to other humans. This one percolated in a live animal market in China and figured out a way to become human to human. If you have ever been to a third world market, you can understand how that can happen. It has since mutated one more time, so people can now get it twice.

The problem with that is, viruses that spread human to human run into those of us that have some cousin viruses that we contracted at some point in our lives that fight it off enough that we don't get sick, especially if we drank from garden hoses, swam in lakes and streams, and other practices now deemed unsafe. Not so with any animal virus that has mutated. Our human immune system doesn't know what to do with it.

For most of us, it is a dry cough that may last a month (and we are contagious that whole month), or the symptoms of maybe a bad cold, but to those with other issues, like compromised immune systems or a history of lung issues (like, you smoked heavy your whole life), those people are hozed. This bug can scar lungs in the worst cases, and that is how it kills people.

Sad, but there only two strategies to fight it. #1, let it spread until everyone gets sick, some die, and it runs the course. #2, keep people separated from each other, thus, starving the damn bug.

Our political leaders have chosen #2 without any consideration to what that means (basically, the same financial outcome as if it was the zombie apocalypse). And that strategy may not work well, anyway. Looking back, we may decide #1 was the wiser (like we did with the swine flu and bird flu).

As you can see, I paid attention in Biology 203 way back when.

Play safe, and stock up on toilet paper.

C3.

Good info that goes a long way to explaining how we got to this point. It would have been nice if our leaders had done it a long time ago. Today's situation might have turned out to be quite a bit less dire.

**Camera3** · 03-18-20 07:07

Originally Posted by James185 [View Original Post]

Every country around the world is shutting down borders and activities for 30 days. This is clearly a nasty viral infection going around.

You are correct. It is a nasty bug. Not because the bug is particularly nasty, as in, it isn't the zombie apocalypse, but because of the origin of the bug. This virus runs rampant among animals (as does bird flu and swine flu of the past). Animal viruses can mutate and infect humans, but then humans don't give them to other humans. This one percolated in a live animal market in China and figured out a way to become human to human. If you have ever been to a third world market, you can understand how that can happen. It has since mutated one more time, so people can now get it twice.

The problem with that is, viruses that spread human to human run into those of us that have some cousin viruses that we contracted at some point in our lives that fight it off enough that we don't get sick, especially if we drank from garden hoses, swam in lakes and streams, and other practices now deemed unsafe. Not so with any animal virus that has mutated. Our human immune system doesn't know what to do with it.

For most of us, it is a dry cough that may last a month (and we are contagious that whole month), or the symptoms of maybe a bad cold, but to those with other issues, like compromised immune systems or a history of lung issues (like, you smoked heavy your whole life), those people are hozed. This bug can scar lungs in the worst cases, and that is how it kills people.

Sad, but there only two strategies to fight it. #1, let it spread until everyone gets sick, some die, and it runs the course. #2, keep people separated from each other, thus, starving the damn bug.

Our political leaders have chosen #2 without any consideration to what that means (basically, the same financial outcome as if it was the zombie apocalypse). And that strategy may not work well, anyway. Looking back, we may decide #1 was the wiser (like we did with the swine flu and bird flu).

As you can see, I paid attention in Biology 203 way back when.

Play safe, and stock up on toilet paper.

C3.