Safe Sex Information and Advice

[MalMonger]

Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?

I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.

(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).

I've been getting BBBJs from SWs for 25+ years and don't have herpes.

However, it's absolutely possible you get it first time out. It's luck of the draw, and a little common sense. Don't let a girl with obvious mouth sores go down on you. But you usually won't see it coming.

[SkSoccer]

Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?

I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.

(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).

[Earl2211]

I heard a doctor talking about how something less than 25% of people will ever show symptoms of hsv-2 and most likely most of the population who is sexually active have it.

I heard many people who get it fight it off naturally. Sometimes it can even become immune in most. Its the odds like all the others. I also heard condoms do nothing for catching that, just your sac touching her vagina while wearing a hat still will transmit that way.

[Earl2211]

Sorry I saw this post from last month and had to weigh in. A 100% straight gamble would be a coin flip where your odds are 50% either way. A trip to Vegas where the house has an edge puts you at a 55% chance of losing depending on how many sucker bets you place. I do bb at parties and with regulars but often switch it up and use a cover. There is always some risk but it's not as dire as a coin toss. See pic for odds.

The only odds I have a problem believing is if a HIV positive ejaculated in a negative bottom, I would think it would be an automatic positive. I am sure it is correct, but it shocks me.

[TallWilly]

100% straight gamble. As a multi-year lurker and one party attendee, I personally think you guys are crazy going BB while in the next breath complaining about pros and drug addicts. Esp going home to a wife. My party was covered and I still rushed to my OBGYN for a full panel. This is why uncovered with me will always be a no no. Good luck gentlemen!

Sorry I saw this post from last month and had to weigh in. A 100% straight gamble would be a coin flip where your odds are 50% either way. A trip to Vegas where the house has an edge puts you at a 55% chance of losing depending on how many sucker bets you place. I do bb at parties and with regulars but often switch it up and use a cover. There is always some risk but it's not as dire as a coin toss. See pic for odds.

[BBNovice2018]

Statistic may seem scary but you may be one of the lucky one. I don't know how but I am free of both after I got tested. I thought for sure I would have Herpes 1 as over 70% of people have it but I was pleasantly surprised that I don't have it.

Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.

[BlaneJames]

Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.

I heard a doctor talking about how something less than 25% of people will ever show symptoms of hsv-2 and most likely most of the population who is sexually active have it.

[TheAbc]

Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.

There will always be some element of risk from seeing pros in general and especially if you don't wrap it up. You just have to take a chance if you want to go with this route and there is a chance to catch something despite these girls get tested (I hope) and you yourself get tested regularly. If you feel this hobby is a bit much for you, you're going to have to either abstain or find a steady GF to BB with to eliminate any risk. Some of us are okay with these odds, some of us are not. This is up to you.

[JoshFrank]

Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.

[BBNovice2018]

From the BBFS providers' test results that I have seen, it's not 100%. I would guess 70% for hsv1 and 50% for hsv2. I think it's only porn stars % may approach 100%. They don't bother testing for that.

I have done BBFS from time to time and I am completely clean.

According to any health agency about 1/2 of all adults have Herpes.

http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stds...acts-and-faqs/

Which pretty much means %100 of providers have it. If the gal says she's having an outbreak, then stay away. Otherwise it's a given that all providers and mongers have it. ESPECIALLY the BBFS mongers.

The only danger really is the significant other dropping an anvil on your head when you fail to explain how she got HSP from you AFTER you were married.

[RegAkronGuy]

She is very nice and I have done BBBJ, BBCIP, BBCIA ...all BB.

Just a general caution against BB with anyone. I've gone BB with 2 girls and after one well-reviewed girl had bloody urine and a burning cock a week later, indicative of chlamydia or gonorrhea. Girls may legitimately think they're clean but some STDs are often asymptomatic.

This is absolutely nothing against that girl and am suggesting nothing about her in any way. I've never seen her but would like to. Just a caution to be careful in general based on personal experience.

[KD7771]

Listen, coming from someone that "dreams" that works for a health department, just ease your mind and google "STI infection rates and means of transmission; CDC". I've done this for 7 years now, with some gaps in time of where my mongering cap was in temporary storage. With at least 7 BBCIP ladies and the rest covered FS. All BBBJ except a few when I first started, to where I have only caught something once and still unsure of whether it was a lady of the night or a random hook up while at college.

The CDC is solid with data as health department gets all reports ultimately sent to them for funding, research, and general data collection. I know I'm spewing a lot, but it's worth it for those who take the time to look into it themselves and see much of what you hear is extremely exaggerated. First off, remember that we are much more likely to infect them as we are transmitting semen and blood to an extent that they are truly an open tunnel of "take whatever the hell it is".

Like with HIV, the virus itself is low with heterosexual unprotected vaginal sex, but rates are crazy high with anything anal due to the easy tearing of the rectum, with the "receiver" having 3-4 x likelihood of becoming infected with an STI. The bottom line is that as long as long you're dwelling in heterosexual activity and staying clear from anything where you are the one being penetrated by someone else (no judgement cards being played; to each their own and I'm simply stating what anyone can search and verify), then you will likely contract a few STIs that are treatable, but anything to the extent of severe damage (I. E. HIV, genital warts) will take you just drawing the bad hand for that deal.

Here are some things to steer clear of as they are MUCH HIGHER odds of having something:

-any type of IV drug use is high risk. Be aware that you'll see higher rates with those who have the fewest track marks, as they are the ones who are still finding a veins, to where those with tons of marks are having issues to where a lot of them just start.

Snorting the drug.

-another risk factor is those who have BBFS, where all it takes is the one gentleman to have time with her to start that vicious cycle up.

-Those who appear in good health and put together are of course likely to be in better good health (appearance does go a long way with judgement) than those who look sickly, tired, beaten down, stressed, etc. Good health at least means an immune system that is holding things down, so I'd say take that into consideration as someone infected is much more likely to fall into those who let that same infection beat the shit out of their health until they get it addressed (by choice or forcefully I. E. Jail).

So I consider myself to be the King of BB. It is my M. O. When I visit with these ladies of the night. I have doing this for almost 4 years now with NO STD's and I dumped loads into 29 ladies, and some I have been a regular with the entire time. Here is my personal plan (works for me, may not for others).

I get tested every 3 months, period. I use STDcheck.com.

I never do anything with a girl with trackmarks. I stop and leave. I also never give donations until its over.

I never do anything with a girl smelling like Starkiss Tuna! Same as above. She isn't clean.

I never negotiate BB until I meet her, then I drop it that I only do BB. Never had one say no as they want the money.

Best experience ever: I did get to do a MFM with one 2 years back and we took turns dropping our loads in her. I did 2, my buddy did 3. It was awesome. I wish she was still around.

[Datmyrose]

New girl I don't offer BBFS.

[SaltWaterLbc]

So I was nervous when some other mongers said they tested positive for chlamydia. The common thread was One provider we all saw but, I got tested and it came back negative. This is after a 4 week wait period and blood with urine sample.

[John Dough]

You're much more likely to contract herpes, gonorrhea, or chlamydia from these women. Fortunately, two of those can be cured by a single pill. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine for herpes yet.

There are unproven approaches to preventing and treating herpes. Since herpes is transmitted by skin to skin contact, skin barrier creams like Gloves in a Bottle might help. Washing immediately afterward might help, especially if using an antimicrobial soap like Defense Soap. There are a few anti-viral chemicals on the over-the-counter market for oral consumption. Monolaurin and BHT supposedly remove the outer coating of lipid coated viruses like herpes, exposing them to the body's immune system.

A study by Dr. Billigmann in 1995 concluded that protease enzymes showed identical efficacy with the drug acyclovir in treating Herpes zoster. Clinical trials of AHCC showed a 60% success rate in treating Human Papilloma Virus in women. A Japanese study found that vitamin D was more effective than a vaccine in preventing flu virus. Another study showed that "selenium inhibits the ability of all "herpes-family" viruses to reproduce". According to Dr. Weil, "Laboratory studies show that olive leaf extract has been reported to increase natural killer cell function against viruses like HIV, hepatitis B and C, and herpes".

For more info see the STD Prevention With Natural Antibiotics user blog.