Non Pro's

**Marko Ramius** · 01-12-20 23:45

Originally Posted by HBadger [View Original Post]

You'll probably have to message like 20 girls to come down to 2-3 good ones. Don't get desperate, it might take to 1-2 weeks of messaging to find a good one. I've had luck with just texting them like normal human beings. Meeting them in a public place before hand is also a good idea, just in case she's not to your liking you can bail out, or so you can see if her attitude is okay because in my opinion that will be wether I see her routinely or not at all. I found some true babes on the site, who just needed some extra money but I also encountered some shit girls because my dick got desperate. Also, I learned over time never to pay over 3 $$. If she's a normal girl, she'll be find with less than that. If she's done it plenty and knows she can manipulate men she will charge way over that. Those are just some small tips that I've learned from past experiences and from other people on the board. Best of luck to your adventures, and if your gut tells you it's a bad idea, than it's probably a bad idea LOL.

Generally, yes.

One thing to keep in mind is that there are more available girls on those sites than there are guys. So you can afford to be picky and you definitely should be. Generally the ideal situation I look for is a girl who has never been on a sugar site before but is in a tight spot financially and needs a little help. Such a girl is the least likely to be a serious scammer or a lifestyle f*ck-up who won't be anything but trouble. I agree that it is usually a really good idea to do a discreet meet-and-greet before getting to the action. I've got money and am comfortable putting up more money than you are if the girl is to my liking. Bluntly I've banged some girls off these sites that were way out of my league, and were never in my league even when I was much younger.

One of my ATFs off SA was a very cute, athletic, and very sexy hot blonde chick. She played beach volleyball and water polo in college, and was currently in grad school and was working as a bikini model in tv ads and for promotions to make ends meet. She hit a dry spell and needed around $1200 for tuition. I did an m&g with her and we worked out the details. For that $1200 she spent three nights and four days servicing me in the very best ways at a luxury hotel in Whitefish. Of course I bought her a few souvenirs and got her a spa day too (total about $250). She was fun to be around and I had a great time and felt I got my money's worth. I saw her a half-dozen more (less expensive) times, mostly overnights, and then she decided she wasn't into this anymore and moved on. I was cool with that. So there are some real gems on there.

Yes, there are girls you can do for less on that site, and if that is what you are into then by all means go to town. I am a lot more fussy and don't see that many girls off those sites (really typically only one or two girls a year), so it isn't really a big deal. And honestly there is so much churn and turnover on those sites that whatever any of us do or don't do doesn't effect the market that much. It helps if you can tolerate a girl who might need to get seriously wasted to get her courage up or who carries a few extra pounds.

**Utah1234** · 01-12-20 22:42

Originally Posted by HBadger [View Original Post]

You'll probably have to message like 20 girls to come down to 2-3 good ones. Don't get desperate, it might take to 1-2 weeks of messaging to find a good one. I've had luck with just texting them like normal human beings. Meeting them in a public place before hand is also a good idea, just in case she's not to your liking you can bail out, or so you can see if her attitude is okay because in my opinion that will be wether I see her routinely or not at all. I found some true babes on the site, who just needed some extra money but I also encountered some shit girls because my dick got desperate. Also, I learned over time never to pay over 3 $$. If she's a normal girl, she'll be find with less than that. If she's done it plenty and knows she can manipulate men she will charge way over that. Those are just some small tips that I've learned from past experiences and from other people on the board. Best of luck to your adventures, and if your gut tells you it's a bad idea, than it's probably a bad idea LOL.

Thanks for the info!! Yeah 3 will be my max. There are a lot of girls who want 1400 a month too LOL.

**Member #6729** · 01-12-20 22:38

Originally Posted by Utah1234 [View Original Post]

I just joined seems like most are asking for 500. I have seen on here 200-300 is the best. Or am I wrong on that?

You'll probably have to message like 20 girls to come down to 2-3 good ones. Don't get desperate, it might take to 1-2 weeks of messaging to find a good one. I've had luck with just texting them like normal human beings. Meeting them in a public place before hand is also a good idea, just in case she's not to your liking you can bail out, or so you can see if her attitude is okay because in my opinion that will be wether I see her routinely or not at all. I found some true babes on the site, who just needed some extra money but I also encountered some shit girls because my dick got desperate. Also, I learned over time never to pay over 3 $$. If she's a normal girl, she'll be find with less than that. If she's done it plenty and knows she can manipulate men she will charge way over that. Those are just some small tips that I've learned from past experiences and from other people on the board. Best of luck to your adventures, and if your gut tells you it's a bad idea, than it's probably a bad idea LOL.

**TnaPorter** · 01-12-20 22:23

Originally Posted by SeattleSilver1 [View Original Post]

We're talking about a Starbucks. If the girl featured on the profile was sitting in there waiting to see what I look like, I would notice.

When you check the links you shared, you have one girl who is now listed in Mexico, one link that doesn't work, and one link of well. A girl who looks really unreliable. I get that everyone has their own tastes, but if you want STG type girls, then you should go to STG. The value of SA is that you go for girls who are more "normal" and because of that, you tend to get less drug use, less crazy behavior, and less shadiness. It's a lot more work than just texting an STG girl for a QV but you get a different (I argue better) experience.

**RawDogger** · 01-12-20 20:28

Another one whose pics are much better than reality. Drove down to Lacey for a m&g today. Nice lady but looks like she's been used badly. Bigger pouchy belly than the pics show. No activities happened, going to pass.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6cc14...f-4bb433e5511f

**LoveBJ** · 01-12-20 19:24

Originally Posted by SeattleSilver1 [View Original Post]

We're talking about a Starbucks. If the girl featured on the profile was sitting in there waiting to see what I look like, I would notice.

Don't need to sit in the place to see what walks in LOL.

**RawDogger** · 01-12-20 15:09

It's part of the game, I guess. That's why I try and do an initial meet someplace not too far from where I'll be that day.

Originally Posted by SeattleSilver1 [View Original Post]

We're talking about a Starbucks. If the girl featured on the profile was sitting in there waiting to see what I look like, I would notice.

**TnaPorter** · 01-12-20 15:05

Originally Posted by Utah1234 [View Original Post]

I just joined seems like most are asking for 500. I have seen on here 200-300 is the best. Or am I wrong on that?

It depends. Everyone does things differently but SA is definitely a lot more work. You have plenty of pros on there, but you also have normal girls who are completely broke and need a little help. A lot of those girls have never been on a date before so they just get excited when a guy takes them to a nice restaurant pays, and has an event planned for that evening. I use it a lot because I travel so much and I meet up with women while I work which gives me something to do during the downtime. Like when I go to Florida, there's this girl there that stays with me every night I'm there and I only pay her $120. Yeah, I take her to eat and take her out to events, so you can certainly add in that money if you want to, but I'd be going out anyway because I'm not one to hide out alone in a hotel room.

In my opinion, if you're putting in STG-level effort into these girls, you're going to get disappointing results. I've had plenty of good STG experiences, but I've had plenty of drug addicted crazies that left me thinking "Why am I doing this? SA has yet to leave me feeling that way. So my advice? Message a TON of girls, be charming, and while you do want to get to the point, if don't talk to her like a hooker, you'll be fine. Both of you guys know why you're on that site.

**SeattleSilver1** · 01-12-20 12:25

Originally Posted by LoveBJ [View Original Post]

I would say more they are sitting and watching to see if you meet and fit their criteria. If not they walk out. We can judge and be fine. Someone judges us and look out baby.

We're talking about a Starbucks. If the girl featured on the profile was sitting in there waiting to see what I look like, I would notice.

**LoveBJ** · 01-12-20 01:09

Originally Posted by SeattleSilver1 [View Original Post]

In the past three weeks I have had three first dates where the "girl" texted right up until the time of the date, but then went dark. I think some people out there get a perverse pleasure leading on an older guy to think he is going to score with this hot young chick, then ghost him. I suspect sometimes the person is even sitting in the Starbucks watching me to observe my reaction when I realize "she" is not going to show up.

_JessiF_Baaaby - https://www.seeking.com/member/57d39...f-cd55dd23d888.

Jeanne101 Spear - https://www.seeking.com/member/432da...0-742733c4457a.

Sexisofia - https://www.seeking.com/member/b428a...6-90930814cf2e.

I would say more they are sitting and watching to see if you meet and fit their criteria. If not they walk out. We can judge and be fine. Someone judges us and look out baby.

**Utah1234** · 01-11-20 22:37

I just joined seems like most are asking for 500. I have seen on here 200-300 is the best. Or am I wrong on that?

**RawDogger** · 01-11-20 17:39

Originally Posted by SeattleSilver1 [View Original Post]

Jeanne101 Spear - https://www.seeking.com/member/432da...0-742733c4457a

This one now shows her location as Mexico.

**RawDogger** · 01-11-20 11:59

I experience with her was a little contradictory, great in some ways and really not great in others.

The good- she's a total freak. I've never met anyone who legitimately loves cock as much as she does. Her stamina with cocksucking is Olympic level. At one point she worked me hard with her mouth for over 30 mins, she did a marathon at a 5 k pace. Dumped a load in her CIP and then CIMWS. After I came in her mouth she slowed down a bit but kept working me slowly for a long time. It was a really unique experience. It was like a massage, very relaxing and calming and something I'm going to ask for again. She absolutely loves cock in her mouth. Honestly she started talking about how much she loved to suck cock so much before we met that I had a little paranoia that it was TGTBT and was worried about a set up, but that wasn't the catch. She's entirely legit and her enthusiasm for penis seems entirely genuine.

The bad- her pics are very well done. Even in those she's not a super model but she knows how to take a flattering pic and she looks kind of cute on the site. In person, she's pretty rough-looking by my standards. Her tits are kind of misshapen and lumpy and she's gained a fair bit of weight from those pics.

Honestly if her looks work for you or if you can overlook them she's got all the skills you want. But I won't be repeating because I've got much more attractive options. Damage was 250 plus a room.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0e655...f-d59db61988b3

**RawDogger** · 01-11-20 11:42

Been talking to her for a while but difficult to pin her down for a meeting. She's sent me a few pics via text, hot af. Seems pretty upbeat but we haven't gotten to the point of discussing details even though we shared numbers weeks ago. I'm not super hopeful. Either she's either busy, a flake, or just overwhelmed with dick.

Originally Posted by MaachoMaan [View Original Post]

Any intel on this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e86a...5-c2a6687f3a81

**SeattleSilver1** · 01-11-20 09:43

Originally Posted by RawDogger [View Original Post]

Set up a meet and greet, I was there slightly ahead of time. Texted her I was there when the top of the hour hit and then at 20 min after the appt texted again to ask if she was coming. No response from her at all. Next.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ed62d...e-91dd066e6177

In the past three weeks I have had three first dates where the "girl" texted right up until the time of the date, but then went dark. I think some people out there get a perverse pleasure leading on an older guy to think he is going to score with this hot young chick, then ghost him. I suspect sometimes the person is even sitting in the Starbucks watching me to observe my reaction when I realize "she" is not going to show up.

_JessiF_Baaaby - https://www.seeking.com/member/57d39...f-cd55dd23d888.

Jeanne101 Spear - https://www.seeking.com/member/432da...0-742733c4457a.

Sexisofia - https://www.seeking.com/member/b428a...6-90930814cf2e.