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  1. #14645

    Anyone visited Athena?

    Hi, long time lurker and actually my first post. Has anyone visited Athena out of Woodbridge? I can't find her post anymore but if I I saved it correctly correctly the number I have is 571-xxx-x491. I've been thinking of pulling the trigger but wanted to know if someone has seen her before.

  2. #14644

    When driving.

    I only carried my car key / fob and the cash I was willing to spend into a AMP or incall. Wallet and phones got locked in the glove-box. If not driving I left everything except the cash, transit card, and burner phone in my hotel or at home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I should write this but fuck it, basically a few days ago I go to a massage therapists incall, money is exchanged and all and it goes well, get my HJ release and boom. As I'm getting changed I notice my I'd is missing and I try to look for it. She helps me look for it but can't find it, I tell her thank you and leave her place. Right outside the front door there's 2 patrol cars outside, I pay no heed to it and walk by like nothing happens. Then as I'm driving away she calls me back and tells me she found my I'd and to come back to get it. I'm really creeped out by all this and so I tell her to throw it away. This was a few days ago and nothing has happened so far but I'm freaked out by it. Will uncle LEO come and get me guys?

  3. #14643
    Quote Originally Posted by RustyMuffler  [View Original Post]
    I am curious how you might have lost your I'd in a room with a provider? I can't imagine having mine out of my wallet. Did you have your I'd out, just loose in your pants pocket? If not, I suspect your host had more to do with the I'd being lost than just her finding it after you left.

    And GnS is right, if LE was going to bust you they would have done it at the notel. And unless there was something highly unusual going on, they would have taken you down on your way in. They almost never wait until after you've had your fun to make an arrest. Robert Kraft notwithstanding.

    You have no worries, mate. Except how your I'd found its way out of your possession. Would you mind writing some more about how that might have happened? I am curious.

    And this is just another chance to remind everyone to keep your mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships.
    I have a bit of a baby face so she wanted to see if I was over 18, so I simply showed her my ID. I think I prolly forgot to put it back in my wallet and simply kept it on hand and when I got off the table I dropped it on the floor.

  4. #14642

    Paranoia

    Quote Originally Posted by GripNSip  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes, we have a tendency to look for signs that aren't there and treat coincidence as something more than what it is. I'm sure the patrol cars and your massage are separate and unrelated. Moreover, there's a chance you did in fact lose your I'd, though I admit reading your post did make me suspect she might have went digging into your wallet and swiped it. But I assure you if they were looking to catch you in the act you wouldn't have left as happy as you did. In fact you wouldn't be leaving very happy at all.

    Now when you venture into this hobby there's many emotions that play into the heart that can affect the thinking mind. Fear, paranoia, guilt, all factor into it for a variety of reasons. That's the fragile state of mind Uncle LEO tries to break. Most often then not the mongers who get caught are the ones who incriminate themselves.

    They won't come after you. But let's pretend they did. As long as you shut the fuck up, they're going to have a quite a difficult time trying to connect you from a man who simply went about his day and misplaced his I'd to someone who got a HJ In exchange for $$ unless you straight up did their job for them by telling them so.
    The Virginia Prostitution statute (18.2-346) does not criminalize the act of getting a handjob or tit job. The Police still have to have a reason to even stop you on your way out too. I would have gone back and got my I'd. Many women now accept cash app which makes it hard for them to prove you paid for anything. If your in a motel room and the police knock on the door. They can't enter without the room renters permission either. Like many people here say. Don't say anything to the cops ever.

  5. #14641
    Address is correct. Classic YMMV. Took the plunge based on a recommendation. Spa is clean and staff is friendly. I called ahead and drew Jin Yi? I think. Who was nice enough, maybe mid 40's in workout clothes and no English at all. Anyway paid the house fee and got comfy. TS was thorough but little to no tease which was a bad sign. Back to the room and the massage was actually really good. Tried to warm her up with a light touch here and there but she either moved or repositioned my hands. Long story short we get to the flip. Super mechanical and no OTC anywhere which was a huge let down. At that point I was ready go. Barely finished got dressed and bounced. Damage was house +. 4 mainly b / c the massage was great. Would only go back for a different provider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopole  [View Original Post]
    Are you sure 3x7 is the address? I googled the address along with spa and came up with several that were close but not 3x7. Thanks.

  6. #14640

    You lost your I'd?

    I am curious how you might have lost your I'd in a room with a provider? I can't imagine having mine out of my wallet. Did you have your I'd out, just loose in your pants pocket? If not, I suspect your host had more to do with the I'd being lost than just her finding it after you left.

    And GnS is right, if LE was going to bust you they would have done it at the notel. And unless there was something highly unusual going on, they would have taken you down on your way in. They almost never wait until after you've had your fun to make an arrest. Robert Kraft notwithstanding.

    You have no worries, mate. Except how your I'd found its way out of your possession. Would you mind writing some more about how that might have happened? I am curious.

    And this is just another chance to remind everyone to keep your mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships.

    Quote Originally Posted by GripNSip  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes, we have a tendency to look for signs that aren't there and treat coincidence as something more than what it is. I'm sure the patrol cars and your massage are separate and unrelated. Moreover, there's a chance you did in fact lose your I'd, though I admit reading your post did make me suspect she might have went digging into your wallet and swiped it. But I assure you if they were looking to catch you in the act you wouldn't have left as happy as you did. In fact you wouldn't be leaving very happy at all.

    Now when you venture into this hobby there's many emotions that play into the heart that can affect the thinking mind. Fear, paranoia, guilt, all factor into it for a variety of reasons. That's the fragile state of mind Uncle LEO tries to break. Most often then not the mongers who get caught are the ones who incriminate themselves.

    They won't come after you. But let's pretend they did. As long as you shut the fuck up, they're going to have a quite a difficult time trying to connect you from a man who simply went about his day and misplaced his I'd to someone who got a HJ In exchange for $$ unless you straight up did their job for them by telling them so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I should write this but fuck it, basically a few days ago I go to a massage therapists incall, money is exchanged and all and it goes well, get my HJ release and boom. As I'm getting changed I notice my I'd is missing and I try to look for it. She helps me look for it but can't find it, I tell her thank you and leave her place. Right outside the front door there's 2 patrol cars outside, I pay no heed to it and walk by like nothing happens. Then as I'm driving away she calls me back and tells me she found my I'd and to come back to get it. I'm really creeped out by all this and so I tell her to throw it away. This was a few days ago and nothing has happened so far but I'm freaked out by it. Will uncle LEO come and get me guys?

  7. #14639
    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I should write this but fuck it, basically a few days ago I go to a massage therapists incall, money is exchanged and all and it goes well, get my HJ release and boom. As I'm getting changed I notice my I'd is missing and I try to look for it. She helps me look for it but can't find it, I tell her thank you and leave her place. Right outside the front door there's 2 patrol cars outside, I pay no heed to it and walk by like nothing happens. Then as I'm driving away she calls me back and tells me she found my I'd and to come back to get it. I'm really creeped out by all this and so I tell her to throw it away. This was a few days ago and nothing has happened so far but I'm freaked out by it. Will uncle LEO come and get me guys?
    Get your I'd. As long as they don't have any footage of you balls deep they got nothing.

  8. #14638
    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I should write this but fuck it, basically a few days ago I go to a massage therapists incall, money is exchanged and all and it goes well, get my HJ release and boom. As I'm getting changed I notice my I'd is missing and I try to look for it. She helps me look for it but can't find it, I tell her thank you and leave her place. Right outside the front door there's 2 patrol cars outside, I pay no heed to it and walk by like nothing happens. Then as I'm driving away she calls me back and tells me she found my I'd and to come back to get it. I'm really creeped out by all this and so I tell her to throw it away. This was a few days ago and nothing has happened so far but I'm freaked out by it. Will uncle LEO come and get me guys?
    Hey buddy, I don't really post here often but I also tend to overthink and get caught into paranoia. The other guy who responded to you is 100% correct. If Uncle LEO wanted to grab you they would have either immediately after you left the incall or as you drove away. If you're still worried look at what they did with Kraft. They pulled him over to confirm his I'd as he was leaving the establishment. You said your I'd was missing but unless they had surveillance in the incall, which Judge tossed out in Kraft case, it's not going to be something that sticks. Enjoy the holidays and stop worrying!

  9. #14637

    Paranoia

    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I should write this but fuck it, basically a few days ago I go to a massage therapists incall, money is exchanged and all and it goes well, get my HJ release and boom. As I'm getting changed I notice my I'd is missing and I try to look for it. She helps me look for it but can't find it, I tell her thank you and leave her place. Right outside the front door there's 2 patrol cars outside, I pay no heed to it and walk by like nothing happens. Then as I'm driving away she calls me back and tells me she found my I'd and to come back to get it. I'm really creeped out by all this and so I tell her to throw it away. This was a few days ago and nothing has happened so far but I'm freaked out by it. Will uncle LEO come and get me guys?
    Sometimes, we have a tendency to look for signs that aren't there and treat coincidence as something more than what it is. I'm sure the patrol cars and your massage are separate and unrelated. Moreover, there's a chance you did in fact lose your I'd, though I admit reading your post did make me suspect she might have went digging into your wallet and swiped it. But I assure you if they were looking to catch you in the act you wouldn't have left as happy as you did. In fact you wouldn't be leaving very happy at all.

    Now when you venture into this hobby there's many emotions that play into the heart that can affect the thinking mind. Fear, paranoia, guilt, all factor into it for a variety of reasons. That's the fragile state of mind Uncle LEO tries to break. Most often then not the mongers who get caught are the ones who incriminate themselves.

    They won't come after you. But let's pretend they did. As long as you shut the fuck up, they're going to have a quite a difficult time trying to connect you from a man who simply went about his day and misplaced his I'd to someone who got a HJ In exchange for $$ unless you straight up did their job for them by telling them so.

  10. #14636

    Secret Temptation

    Hi,

    I just wanted to put this out there, if anyone has gone to this place over the last few months or so and seen someone worthwhile, please send me a PM about them and I will give you the scoop on at least 3 girls that work there now. What I am looking for are what girls offer what extras since I don't feel like gambling my money away before I know what I am getting into. As I said, I can tell you about 3 or 4 girls that have been there for 6 months or more. If anyone has seen any new action there lately and are happy to share with me in exchange for my experience, please PM me.

    GS.

  11. #14635

    Close call

    I don't know if I should write this but fuck it, basically a few days ago I go to a massage therapists incall, money is exchanged and all and it goes well, get my HJ release and boom. As I'm getting changed I notice my I'd is missing and I try to look for it. She helps me look for it but can't find it, I tell her thank you and leave her place. Right outside the front door there's 2 patrol cars outside, I pay no heed to it and walk by like nothing happens. Then as I'm driving away she calls me back and tells me she found my I'd and to come back to get it. I'm really creeped out by all this and so I tell her to throw it away. This was a few days ago and nothing has happened so far but I'm freaked out by it. Will uncle LEO come and get me guys?

  12. #14634

    Some to exchane gifts with me

    Again, this year will be another lonely, alone Christmas for me. I was wondering if any of the ladies are hosting a special for Christmas day. After all, we deserve gifts too.

    I am hoping to find a 20 - 40, athletic build to include affectionate with the cost of the massage.

    Do you know if anyone fitting the description will be alone Christmas who might want to exchange gifts with me?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldManRose  [View Original Post]
    I have several providers that I see regularly.

    If you have one remember a Holiday gift is much appreciated and usually is reciprocated in extra service.

    At least that is my experience.

    Happy Holidays.

  13. #14633

    Holiday gifts

    I have several providers that I see regularly.

    If you have one remember a Holiday gift is much appreciated and usually is reciprocated in extra service.

    At least that is my experience.

    Happy Holidays.

  14. #14632

    Do a search

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy95  [View Original Post]
    I have almost exclusively frequented AMP's, trying my luck at random places over the years, and I stick to AMP tipping standard, $40 for this, $60 for that, and $100 for the other.

    What are the tipping expectations from these $120 hr girls?? A few years back, I did see Angie in Tyson's, I paid her only the $120 with no tip, because what she provided (I didn't push for more) was exactly what I could have gotten anywhere else. Massage, teasing, finish. I figured 80 to the house and 40 tip = 120, right?
    There are several norms, but differences between gals in the area. Suggest you try searching for Thai and reading back a number of months. Plenty of discussion. You'll also find the difference between long established locals and ones that pop into town occasionally.

  15. #14631

    It's not Personal It's Business

    Quote Originally Posted by SonChi  [View Original Post]
    I posted this before:

    Let's takeover. Walk in, happily pay the 1 hour fee. Enjoy the TS and the rub, which usually are nice. Upon the flip, when the upsell comes, negotiate the tip as such: say 20 for nothing, 40 for hand, 60 for mouth, 100 for everything.

    You get the idea. They make a decision and the fun begins (very rarely not). This way, we control what we get and so do they.

    It will only work if most of us do it.
    Quote Originally Posted by JimRob  [View Original Post]
    After my last frustrating experience at Angel got me thinking. First we won't do BJ at this place, but we will fake one to try to get more money out of you.

    Second. At Angel we never do FS. But we will get completely naked and slide our pussy lips on your bare cock.

    How stupid is this? I understand maybe if you bring your own equipment then that's fine and you properly dispose on your own. I get they don't want a million rubbers all over the the place. But the oh we don't do that stuff at this place, but still want well over a 100 for a tip is ridiculous, plus the entry fee.

    For 160 to 180 you should be getting way more for your dollar. Who is paying 200 to 300 for HE? We need to stop letting them rip us off. I feel like going back to Angel just to make them give me standard nova for 40. I'm done with getting ripped off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Start2  [View Original Post]
    As a rule of thumb:

    MD= Full Service.

    NOVA= decent massage.
    It's not Personal It's Business.

    Most can't / won't drive for 1 hour.

    2020 will be what you make it.

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