Ripoff Reports

[Member #6026]

I'm posting this because there are an increasing number of posts asking "Has anybody seen this one?" when the ad in question is clearly a fake / scam. So we'll use the fake ad in the following link to discuss the red flags that accompany most fakes (I will use the words "fake" and "scam" synonymously from here on):

http://archive.ph/FBBCu

Let's start with the title:

Single mom Want li.cked pussy-- 862***2074

Scammers will often use overtly crass language that most providers would not. Most providers are subtle in their titles, often with clever innuendos suggesting what they want without being so explicit. Also, fakes seem to favor descriptors like "single mom," "unhappy wife," "recently divorced," that legitimate ads don't. Scammers will also throw in errors (like the capital W or the period in "li.cked") to try and make the ads appear legitimate and not too clean, but I wouldn't use this as a red flag unless you're very experienced at spotting how fake ad errors are often noticably different from real ones.

Now for that phone number with the unrecognizable area code. The vast majority of real ads will have local area codes (386, 321, 407, and 904). The vast majority of fake ads will not. There are notable exceptions like Kate and Christian, who kept their mobile numbers when they moved here, but most Volusia providers do have 386 area codes, with a smattering of the others thrown in.

Next, their advertised age. I don't recommend using an ad's listed age to discriminate fakes. So many legitimate ads have fake ages that it makes it hard to tell. However, I'd say about 98% of Volusia providers list their age as 24 or older. Offhand I can only recall one active advertiser who lists an age younger than 24 (Deland Barbie, 22). So the listed age of 27 in our example isn't a red flag to me, but you should be highly skeptical of any ad with a listed age of 18 or 19.

And now the improbably good pictures. I recommend taking a good look at the pictures of providers you know are legitimate* and comparing them to our example. Many fakes have high-quality images (good lighting, staging, etc. much like our example pictures) with high-quality content (like the improbably hot lass in our example). Most real ads will be low-quality images with realistic women as the subject.

* You know an ad is legitimate because reputable mongers have reviewed them. This means you have to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I really can't stress this enough. You must read the forum (more on this later).

The next thing you should do is a TinEye (or similar) search on the images to see where else they appear on the web. Here are three ways to do this (and here I assume you are using a smartphone):

Method 1. Within the STG ad, tap on the picture in question. Then tap on the link at the bottom of the picture that says "Is this photo real?" This method used to work for me but now I get a security policy error, so on to method 2.

Method 2. Within the ad, tap on the picture in question. Next, tap-and-hold on the image. When the menu comes up, select "Copy Image Location" or similar option. Next, launch tineye.com. Tap-and-hold on the search field, select "Paste" from the pop-up menu, and tap the search button (the one with the magnifying glass icon). This method works with most browsers on most sites, but doesn't work for me on our archive.ph example, so on to method 3.

Method 3. If the previous 2 methods don't work, this one almost certainly will. In our fake ad example, tap on the picture. Next, tap-and-hold on the image until the pop-up menu comes up. Select "Save Image" or similar and save it to a folder you can easily find (like Downloads, Gallery, etc.). Then launch tineye.com. Press the upload button which is to the left of the search field and navigate to the folder you saved your picture in. Then select your picture and TinEye does the rest. In our example, three hits came back dating back to 2013. Also, the same pics are in use currently (as of this posting) on escortads.ch in Ames Iowa with a different phone number. Pretty questionable for a Daytona lass. If you are really computer savvy, it couldn't hurt to run other image processing and matching applications, but expounding on them all here is a bridge too far I'm afraid.

[BigBoy3470]

I sent her a text late last night and thankfully she never responded. It was after LuvEm69 had posted his report (which I did not see or I never would've tried). She was high on my to do list and I even sent some private messages to a fellow monger asking about her but now I will not be wasting my time or my marios that she so much is in need of!

She's back new pictures be careful she will do 60 or 80 be very very careful.

[BeachRunner51]

I've known her for some time she was very beautiful took 8 months drugs and pimps she did the same to me outcall she's good at it.

I sent her a text late last night and thankfully she never responded. It was after LuvEm69 had posted his report (which I did not see or I never would've tried). She was high on my to do list and I even sent some private messages to a fellow monger asking about her but now I will not be wasting my time or my marios that she so much is in need of!

[BigBoy3470]

http://archive.today/l2qCv

Reached out to this Philly for round two and had several failed attempts until Friday afternoon. Sh8e stated she was at the trap house off MLK and I was to pick her up and shuttle her to my place for a little afternoon fun. Comms were steady and she asked me to let her know when 5 minutes out. I did so and as I rolled out passed the residence with a male individual standing on the porch I pulled past and waited. I saw her come out of the back and hop the fence to jump into passenger seat. She hopped in with the redhead of hers and asked if I had the donation on me. I replied nope have it at home since the agreement was to go there. She said she wanted it first which wasn't going to happen.

She said I know her so doesn't understand why I don't trust her and blah, blah, blah. She jumped out and sad she would be right back and in the back she went.

A few minutes later the dude on the porch came over to edge of fence and waved me off at the same time I got a text telling me to leave. She also said she doesn't normally do it but, "Most guy's give Roses upfront cause they already know I'm the romantic type. " My response was only a fool would do such and she knew that so have a good day. Just goes to show how twisted these girls can be from one visit to another..

I've known her for some time she was very beautiful took 8 months drugs and pimps she did the same to me outcall she's good at it.

[LuvEm69]

http://archive.today/l2qCv

Reached out to this Philly for round two and had several failed attempts until Friday afternoon. She stated she was at the trap house off MLK and I was to pick her up and shuttle her to my place for a little afternoon fun. Comms were steady and she asked me to let her know when 5 minutes out. I did so and as I rolled out passed the residence with a male individual standing on the porch I pulled past and waited. I saw her come out of the back and hop the fence to jump into passenger seat. She hopped in with the redhead of hers and asked if I had the donation on me. I replied nope have it at home since the agreement was to go there. She said she wanted it first which wasn't going to happen.

She said I know her so doesn't understand why I don't trust her and blah, blah, blah. She jumped out and sad she would be right back and in the back she went.

A few minutes later the dude on the porch came over to edge of fence and waved me off at the same time I got a text telling me to leave. She also said she doesn't normally do it but, "Most guy's give Roses upfront cause they already know I'm the romantic type. " My response was only a fool would do such and she knew that so have a good day. Just goes to show how twisted these girls can be from one visit to another.

To be clear, she did NOT get over on the donation because she wasn't given the opportunity. She may very well have come back, but there was NO WAY IN HELL I was going to provide her such an opportunity because she would have had no incentive to do so.

[NewAgain]

Protect yourself. I use a monger email and a voip app for texting and calling. Screw it. Gots to be safe!

That ad, and similar ads, are all over the Communty / Groups postings. Looks like they're all trolling for your email address, since they all want you to respond to a gmail account. Let's flag every one of them. I already flagged about 10 of them, but I'm sure more will pop up.

[CozyJones]

That ad, and similar ads, are all over the Communty / Groups postings. Looks like they're all trolling for your email address, since they all want you to respond to a gmail account. Let's flag every one of them. I already flagged about 10 of them, but I'm sure more will pop up.

Looking at CL this morning and came across this listing. https://daytona.craigslist.org/grp/d...79035022.html. Wonder if they ever read what they post.

Heading says Widow Mom (so sorry) but then no kids? So how can you be a "widow mom". As Forest Gump would say stupid is, as stupid does.

[NewAgain]

Too funny. Alanis Morrisett song. Comes to mind.

Ad is already down. Phishing Sex. Latest trend now. LOL.

Looking at CL this morning and came across this listing. https://daytona.craigslist.org/grp/d...79035022.html. Wonder if they ever read what they post.

Heading says Widow Mom (so sorry) but then no kids? So how can you be a "widow mom". As Forest Gump would say stupid is, as stupid does.

[Nudeed]

Looking at CL this morning and came across this listing. https://daytona.craigslist.org/grp/d...79035022.html. Wonder if they ever read what they post.

Heading says Widow Mom (so sorry) but then no kids? So how can you be a "widow mom". As Forest Gump would say stupid is, as stupid does.

[CuddleBeast]

This I girl that looks like she is about 60 lbs. She is working with Sierra. They are both shady as hell. Saw on beach side scooted out bathroom window. Then found out little miss Sierra owes a lot of money to a big guy that's not good. And couple of her drug dealer got popped don't know if she snitch or not I know that she has using what ever she can get her hands on.

[Mongerlicious]

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...t/664886437091

She posts a lot but I ran into her last summer on WYP and she cash and dashed me at a local hotel. I was out of the hobby for a bit but I started looking through old numbers and the current one she is using is the same number she was using when she ripped me off. I really should have known better but we all get caught once or twice even if we are seasoned.

[DaBigL]

Careful with this one. Made a rookie mistake and gave up the donation way to early.

Ad below.

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...u/666897590557

[LuvEm69]

I was scrolling through ads and come across the following ad: http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...e/947870543919.

I had met her about 5-yrs ago on Beachside right on the DB Shores / DB line. She was chill and we hit it off and got her digits. At the time she was coming out of a relationship and lived with her kids and sister in Deland. She had a car and would drive out to beachside to make $$ I used to meet her down the road from my place since she passed it on route to her work area. She did have legit jobs that paid a menial income as well but most her revenue was through donations. On a few occasions we met up and I helped her with her vehicle and she had her children riding with her so I did meet them as well. She was pretty chill and I ultimately broke the cardinal rule and had her over my place, which turned out to be many times. She was able to travel independently so would stop by on a weekly basis or whenever our schedules aligned. Some time went by and I hadn't heard from her in awhile. One night I was heading up Ridgewood and saw her on the corner of Osceola. I whipped around and stopped next to her with which she opened the door and jumped in. She was in the vehicle for a significant amount of time and didn't realize she knew me. Bottom line she was partying and went down hill rapidly. Not too long after that she called me one night said she was down the road and wanted to stop by and did such. While she went to use my restroom she slipped into adjacent room and lifted some cash I had on a the counter. She made an excuse that she needed to step out to her car and was never to return. In a nutshell, yes, I made a few mistakes that I am fully aware, but to my defense, we knew each other for several years and she ran off with only double-digits worth of cash which was stupid cause would have gave her that without issue. The Pictures are old since they are the same ones I discovered after we met and ran her number online. I did see after that she had been arrested and did have several encounters with the law. It has been several years since I saw her and she was a pretty chill MILF. But as with most, her demons caught up to her.

[NewAgain]

RoadWarrior is spot-on! There are many, many fake ads and let's face it, these girls, for the most part, are not in it for the customer service ratings or yelp reviews. Deposits are a quick and easy way for the person to make a quick $50 bucks or so. I would be willing to bet that they are not even women, or certainly not working on their own. Example. The big greasted gal that posts from Ocala / Leesburg area. She has changed her KIK handle twice in the last month. Everything I mention meeting up in person, she goes radio silent. And if you mention you "might" be interested in buying her pics / videos she sends a large ala-carte menu item text back. As mongers, let us unit. We can all spare 5 minutes a day to waste their time, so I pledge to do exactly that!

I've never paid a deposit to a provider that I've never seen prior nor would I ever consider it. That said, I have given a few providers an advance on the next meeting. Sometimes it was just partial and others it was the whole enchilada. Of course, these are providers that I know well. In every instance, they've kept their word and honored the agreement. They also know they would be killing the goose that laid the golden eggs if they ever reneged on our agreement. So, whether it's an advance or a deposit, it's still pretty much the same thing.

[RoadWarrior2K]

The reason I post the question is that, in my not-so-private war against scammers (yes, I really do go out of my way to waste their time) I want hard and fast rules like "deposit always equals scam" to be true.

And from my narrow perspective it is true. But I am still surprised at how often mongers, even SMs, come here asking about ads that seem to me to be obvious fakes.

So I put it to the brotherhood. Can we all agree that legitimate Volusia providers that get deposits, like their unicorn and jackalope cousins, are nothing more than a myth? Or can someone offer a counter example and force us to caveat the rule?

I've never paid a deposit to a provider that I've never seen prior nor would I ever consider it. That said, I have given a few providers an advance on the next meeting. Sometimes it was just partial and others it was the whole enchilada. Of course, these are providers that I know well. In every instance, they've kept their word and honored the agreement. They also know they would be killing the goose that laid the golden eggs if they ever reneged on our agreement. So, whether it's an advance or a deposit, it's still pretty much the same thing.