New Member Guide

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The golden advice from Benz is don't pay upfront, especially for first time escorts. Doing so makes you vulnerable to the cash grab & run even from longtime, previously reliable providers. Withholding donation until time is up also has the benefit of encouraging a better session.

Many experienced mongers have let their other head make decisions and fell victim. Things to look out for: provider needing money upfront for a room, leaving you behind to wait while she gets said room or other excuse, having you go get a condom from your car, duo partners distracting you and separating, or having you get naked or use bathroom after money is taken.

For incalls, use a bathroom before you enter her room so you don't have to be separated from her. Locking the room door after entering to prevent others from entering as well as slowing down her from dashing. Show but withhold all or part of the money. Don't get naked until she does. Have a condom with you and don't bring in valuables other than the money you intend to spend (no phone, wedding ring, watch, etc).

If you get caught by a dasher, best not to fight it. She is likely doing so out of pure desperation, under pimp direction, or just a psycho criminal. You don't want a physical altercation to make a bad situation worse. You never know who might be waiting outside. However if she dashes from her hotel room, consider these fine options as payback:

1. Trash whatever personal affects she left behind. She probably isn't the smartest tool in the shed and likely will return because she paid for the room.

2. Lock the door and order as many hotel pay-per-view porn movies to add to her hotel bill.

3. Call the lobby from the room phone and say you'd like to check out. If she paid in cash say you'll be down to pickup the deposit. If card, ask for a printed receipt so now you'll have her name. But definitely check out so her card doesn't work.

4. Don't leave until after you've flooded the room by overflowing the bathtub. Mild, but cleanable damage that will be a hefty addition to her bill.

Reminders that this happens:

Like many providers she wanted the donation up front, since we were both comfortable I thought OK and gave it to her. At this point everything went off the rails. She suddenly turned into a crazy *****, she grabs a knife ...

The brunette,25 yo ... just scam me of $120! ... Grab my money & her suppose bi male friend said cop were coming as he opened the motel door...

BEWARE. She will demand donation up front then run into her hotel hall way off 28th street & scream the R word. STAY AWAY STAY AWAY

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Great question, but there is no fool proof method. First, keep in mind the following:

- a brand new escort ad will receive 50+ texts in the night. A real escort won't respond to all.

- a vast majority of the inquiries an escort receives the men don't follow through.

- there are a ton of fake ads (usually the ones with high quality pics of hot girls).

- most providers aren't known for their business IQ or their reliability.

The bottom line is you need to differentiate yourself that you are serious, especially if she doesn't recognize your number.

IMHO, text is preferred over call. Also don't ask open ended questions that will take multiple back and forth. Instead make a direct statement like "hi, I'd like to see you anytime now till 8 pm". If you get no response follow it up, restating your interest and ask when she is available. Think of it from her perspective: she receives texts from two different guys, one asking open ended questions, and another wanting to book. She'll respond to the one who she can book. After she responds then negotiate time & money. If you want the full hour state it up front, otherwise if you ask for a Short Stay you are leaving the door open for another monger to outbid you.

You can also try stating facts if you think it will help: "hi, white male, over 40, fit, clean, would like to schedule appointment". Providers have preferences on who they'd like as clients same as we do for providers. But in the end money talks.

The time of day really depends on luck. Midweek generally is slow for them, but then again they aren't "geared up" for the task like they are on the weekend when they've already got a room.

As far as verification I can't speak to it as I've never done it. I'd personally avoid any site because it sounds like a scam unless she is a high end provider with reviews. I have exchanged PG body pics (no face) to verify in both directions but NEVER with a text thread that talked about service or donation.

If you have a provider in mind that posts regularly on STG, monitor her routine and see if you can respond quickly after it is posted. Some post only once a day, others obnoxiously often. If you can catch her quickly your odds are better.

First time lurker here. I want to know what would be a good introduction in meeting providers (new or old).

Always get unlucky whenever I introduce myself properly. What would be a good time to communicate with them?

Call or text?

My introductory text is like this:

Hi (name) would like to know your availability today. I saw your ad? Is this a good or bad introduction text for them?

What time of day should I communicate with them? I usually do like 11:00 am or 3:00 pm to no avail of replies. Done this 2 times already no replies.

And also how verification (leon check) works for them other than the high end providers who ask for I'd and references from other providers?

I'm following rn all the steps in this thread.

Thank you.

Sorry for a lot of question.

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Advice from Benz.

Tuesday and Wednesdays negotiations.
They'll quote you the highest rate possible, learn to gently negotiate and try not to offend. For new contacts I text about 11 am on Tuesday, using a phone app on my hobby phone. Using the phone app allows me to negotiate to a number I know she will say No. I text again using my real hobby phone number with a better rate I know she'll say yes to because my phone app found out where the bottom is. I'm guessing I'm the only one texting her at 11 am on Tuesday and the hotel room has to be paid soon. She'll be willing to make a deal with me since the last text she got (from me also. LOL) was lower. This will never work Friday and Saturday, they have plenty of options and your negotiations will be ignored. You have to have game in this game. If not it'll cost you more than those that do. FYI most first time negotiations extend to the next weekday visits.

You're out of luck, If you can only monger on Friday and Saturday. Then it's time to tell the wife, options are getting thin and she'll have to take it on the chin.

Other suggestions for getting good pricing:

Learn her incall location and general time availability so you can be in the area when you contact her. She'll take a monger who says he's 10 minutes away rather than gambling on a monger who requests a date 1-2 hours later to actually show. Appointments work with established relationships, but escorts all follow the rule of a bird in hand is worth two in the Bush (or maybe it's a c*ck in her Bush is worth 2 future handies? Something like that anyway).

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Consider the following when posting an escort report:

Hobby Name:

Marketing: Advertises_UTR_Arrangement_.

Service Type:

Camera Friendly

HJ_ CBJ_ BBBJ_ Throats_BLS_CIM_ Swallow_ CFS_ BBFS_ Daty_FIV_Greek_.

Extras: Prostrate massage_ Rim Job_ Pegging_ GFE_ MSOG_Fistable_Enjoys Being Toyed_ .

Rates:

Her Sweet Spot what is she particularly good / skilled at, if anything:

Apparent Skill Level:

Attitude:

Enthusiasm:

Personality: Friendly_Engaging_Talkative_Chatterbox_Sullen_Shy_Disinterested_Irritated_Can't Wait To Be Done_.

Hygiene:

Taste / smell of pussy Good_ ok_ Bad_.

Showered / shaved.

Breath.

Skin Condition:

Body type / physique:

Recent Accurate Pics?:

Attractiveness Face:

Attractiveness Body:

If you know what you are doing, can she enjoy herself?:

Phone Number (s) Used: If multiple numbers, list the most recent first - 7 of 10 digits_.

Email:

Website:

Affiliation, if any: Independent_ Agency_Massage Parlor_Strip Club_.

Hobby Acquaintances or Duo's With?

Age: Posted_ Looks like_.

Ethnicity:

Skin Tone:

Hair color:

Teeth: Missing? Meth teeth_.

Bust size:

Bust Appearance: Boltons_ Full_ Saggy _.

Tattoos:

Piercings: Location_.

Feet: _ Toe sucking_.

Smoker?: _ smoke with client?

Signs Of Substance Use?

Incall: Clean_ Messy_ Smelly_ Risky_.

Repeat at this incall? Repeat with this provider_.

Date of Meeting:

Overall Experience: Comments.

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Never use your own phone in support of this hobby.

Many mongers purchase prepaid phones just as escorts do. Others use apps on their smart phone to be a 2nd line, or texting apps. Some use both. Although most escorts setup via text, some will do a voice call for final location. Make sure you know how your 2nd line or app works before trying to use it on a date. Apps need to have access to microphone and notifications so it may take some time to set it up.

I use texting apps. Free but if you have snooping family you need to be careful. Here is my advice if you go that route (I have an iPhone for reference).

Pinger TextFree. Ok app, free with ads, and first 10 voice minutes are free. Pros: you can set it up to notify you via email so you can keep your phone notifications off 99% of time then enable the pop ups when you want. you have to use it every 30 days to keep the same number. Which isn't a big deal, and it shows you how many voice minutes you have. You can also access from a webpage. Cons: the app only supports 1 number per your login and can't delete until it expires, it doesn't have a pass code so any who gets access to your phone can open it, and the interface is a bit buggy so need to keep it to short texts.

TextMe. Better app, also free with ads but I haven't used voice on it. Pros: you can release your number any time or get more than 1 number. That is great if you travel and you want to contact using a local area code so they don't hike up rates thinking you are a wealthy business traveler. It also has a password option so someone can't open it. Cons: no webpage support if you are a option user, it doesn't have the email notification and I honestly don't know how the voice minutes work.

My recommendation: both.

I use textfree for my locals so I can get the email notification when I'm not expecting anything, then use textme for travel. You need an email associated with either, so obviously you need a hobby email as well or if you use your regular gmail or yahoo etc set up a filter so all those messages get placed in a sub folder to avoid prying eyes. If you exceed your free minutes you need to pay or setup a new login using a different email.

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Guide to Posting a report.

1. Be respectful of others.

2. If posting about an escort.

A. Identify the escort by call name or ad.

B. Be factual & honest.

C. Paste a link to the ad.

D. include picture of ad since links die.

E. Don't write phone # or address, but you can include pic of ad that shows it.

3. To include link, find the webpage and select the entire text in the address bar, copy & paste it into your review.

4. To include pictures in your post click Manage Attachments. If you've downloaded the picture to your phone / pc or did a screenshot then select files from the Upload Files from Computer section, then select Upload.

5. Use the Reply with Quote feature when replying to another post for context. You can edit out portions inside the QUOTE.

6. Preview your post before submitting it.

Many escorts use the same name or change names, so pictures are vital to help identify who is being reviewed.

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Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 4).

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

Additional considerations for an incall:

1. Lock the deadbolt of the hotel room door behind you.

2. Politely state you'd like her to put away her phone during your visit (before any money leaves your hand).

3. Let her bring up money and don't ask for explicit sexual services until its obvious she isn't LEO. Instead ask if there are "things she's not into".

4. Keep all your belongings (clothes) in one place in case you need to dash.

If she resists, your spidey senses will start tingling. You don't want a "boyfriend" to interrupt 5 minutes after the money comes out and lose the full amount. That or she grabs and dashes. Make it clear you are paying for her undivided attention. Assess your risk, then mitigate as many possible damages as possible in case things go wrong.

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Nothing annoys this community more than the monger who asks "any info on this one?" for a well known escort. Learn how to do your research.

#1 search this forum for reviews. Members can search within an entire city forum or within a specific thread (I. E. Grand Rapids / Escort Reports) for keywords, no more than 1 search per minute. It doesn't work for 3 letter words or less. Search for your escort name and see what kind of reviews are out there, if any. Pay attention to who made the review by clicking on their profile and looking at other posts, are they senior members? Some fake profiles with only 1 or 2 posts have been known to give extreme praise or criticize an escort, so don't be fooled by those gaming the system. Pay attention to monger bias as we each have different preferences on what we like.

#2 google search the escort's phone #. Sites like STG may have an advertised number in text and also a number if you click the CALL ME button. Search them both using the format "xxx yyy zzzz escort" which will find most ads on the typical sites. Click through anything that is found. Does the escort use different names? If so search for it in this forum. Is the number associated with different girls? What other cities are ads posted in? Search for that escort in the other cities USA forums. If you find that number all over the country use your common sense. Sites like STG have the same ad posted in multiple cities at the same time.

#3 reverse image search the escort pics. Double click on the pic so it's the only thing in the browser. Select the text in the address bar, which might be "http: somesite / babe. Jpg" and copy it. Open google webpage, and paste into the search box. It will prompt you to "search by image" - this is what you want. It will find if the image is used on other sites and not the authentic local girl you were promised. Do this for all images the escort has posted since the tool isn't perfect. Try Tineye.com as another search utility.

#4. Read the ad, don't just look at pictures. Some ads advertise weight / height in metric system which isn't the norm here in the US. Does it give a location that makes sense for the local area or does it say "anywhere"? Use common sense.

Generally speaking, if the pictures look professional, are of incredibly attractive young girls, or advertise with very low rates its too good to be true. If the phone number is associated with a bunch of different girls then it's likely a handler who will send you to a completely different girl that looks nothing like the one advertised. Same thing if the pictures are stolen from the Internet. If the ad has been posted for a long time and you can't find any reviews from a member then it's likely not real. If it's a relatively new ad, and you can't find any information out there, and passes the sniff test, then consult the guide for TOFTT.

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Setup your UsaSexGuide user preferences to ensure if you want email notifications or not for forum updates or Private Messages (PM).

Login, then select Settings. Under My Settings - General Settings you can select if you can receive PMs from all members (recommended) and if you want to get an email when that happens instead of having to login.

Under My Subscriptions you can select which forum threads you want to get daily emails from. This allows you to read posts without going to the site.

Obviously be careful and don't use an email address that your wife or business can see.

Use the Private Messaging feature to directly communicate with a member. There is a limit to how many PMs you can have in your inbox. Once it gets filled you can no longer receive any until you clean it out. At the time of this posting I don't believe there is a method to attach pics to a PM.

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Starting a thread as guide for new members. All are welcome to this community if you are willing to share experiences, tips and advice. It's a two way street: contribute as much as you receive. Do so without judgment of others and make sure you understand the rules of the site.

Overview of popular Grand Rapids threads:

Escort Reports thread is for escort reviews, and sharing information about escorts good, bad, or fake. Just like a restaurant a good provider can have the occasional bad review and vice verse. The more reviews the clearer the picture.

Ripoff Reports should only contain escorts that ripped you off, not poor experiences. These are escorts to AVOID and deserve an uncluttered thread. You may find the same information posted in Escort Reports.

General Reports is for general topics. All too often general topics creep into Escort Reports, but this is where it belongs.

Massage Parlor Reports. Self explanatory.

Street Walker Reports. Self explanatory.

Strip Club Reports. Self explanatory.

Others. Lessor used threads for Reports from a particular escort site.

Refer to the tips on how to Post a report.

User Blogs. There are various discussions including one called Anyone Seen This Girl? Recommended to post questions there instead of on a thread for reviews.