"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FanRat]

You got to the nuts and bolts of it. Not only is the costs of goods $0 for them,

Close to $0 but the girls do have to spend some money and time to be appealing and stay healthy. Some spend more than others no doubt but there is some cost to the provider. The income potential is still a big win though.

Be safe!

[HappyHunter44]

..females all know that they are making out on any transaction to sell pussy to a man; they know they were born with their pussy and the man had to go out and either earn, steal, or inherit that money he pays her for the temporary use of her pussy.

You got to the nuts and bolts of it. Not only is the costs of goods $0 for them, it is a reusable item that can be traded over and over again. In contrast, the SD is out the $ and must get another $ in order to exchange for the same pussy (i. e. , exact same item) on another occasion. Marriage pussy is no different. The hubby must continue procuring $$ to have access to the pussy, no matter how much he he has already ponied up.

[Dash]

We are actually describing two different things. You are talking negotiations; I am talking the actual economics of the trade, not the essence of a negotiation.

Let's say I have $ and you have a shirt. If I offer you the $ for your shirt and you agree to give me the shirt in exchange for my $, then 1) yes, we had a successful negotiation, but the economic conditions to each of us are not equal. 2) By definition, I must value the shirt more than the $ I had, thus I parted with the $ for the shirt and 3) you parted with the shirt in exchange for the $ because you valued the $ more than the shirt.

Economically, each party sees himself coming out ahead of the position he was in prior to the trade. Therefore, for the trade to take place, each party must view the exchange as an economic gain. For each party to realize a gain, the exchanged items must be economically valued differently, i.e. , have unequal value to each party.

Sorry for the lurker unsolicited comment; females all know that they are making out on any transaction to sell pussy to a man; they know they were born with their pussy and the man had to go out and either earn, steal, or inherit that money he pays her for the temporary use of her pussy.

Girls may be self deluded enough to believe that their time is valuable; not really since I have very rarely met any female who had useful information to depart to me so her company was a frivolity to me and usually led to sexual relations or was over soon.

I have often said to many broke females who complained to me about their plight "You're sitting on your ATM card; if you use it, you will have plenty of money. You're just unwilling to take it out. ".

A few hot girls I know have mocked their female friends who fuck for nothing or for free; deep down they think like prostitutes who think a guy must pay up of jerk off.

[HappyHunter44]

The basis of any successful negotiation is for each party to find something the other party values highly that you value at a much lesser level.

Men with more $$ than available young pussy value $$ at $. For young pussy its the opposite. They give it up for free to the soulful barista, but can't make rent.

So it really is an equally agreeable negotation, not an unequal trade.

We are actually describing two different things. You are talking negotiations; I am talking the actual economics of the trade, not the essence of a negotiation.

Let's say I have $ and you have a shirt. If I offer you the $ for your shirt and you agree to give me the shirt in exchange for my $, then 1) yes, we had a successful negotiation, but the economic conditions to each of us are not equal. 2) By definition, I must value the shirt more than the $ I had, thus I parted with the $ for the shirt and 3) you parted with the shirt in exchange for the $ because you valued the $ more than the shirt.

Economically, each party sees himself coming out ahead of the position he was in prior to the trade. Therefore, for the trade to take place, each party must view the exchange as an economic gain. For each party to realize a gain, the exchanged items must be economically valued differently, i.e. , have unequal value to each party.

[Lost Soul]

Her real name is Jade. Met her at FC. She is chubby but not a fatty though. She is young and appears new to the bowl. Apparently, her friend 'Maya' influenced her with $$ from SA. LOL. Can't nurse those awesome titties, they are pierced. DFK is ok but no BJ, not even covered, WTF! Of-course no BBFS, at-least first time. But her pussy is good and loved the DATY. I'm not repeating.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f091c...9-511c32d66f30

[Ks Dark Knight]

That's what makes SA so attractive to me, too.

There is much less expensive P out there, but nowhere near as clean and safe as can be found on SA.

For now, we live in a golden age for sugaring. There is so much available P on the site, it's difficult to choose.

Has anybody had trouble getting to the login page the last 2 days?

[BStreet]

If she stays at 500 to 700 she quoted me, won't be too much volume. Told me we must have had some totally different arrangements in the past. YUP! Hope the BBBJTCIM was good!

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inb...e-6d30e39bc131

Cute. Asian. Nice body. Glasses. All things I am attracted to. Really boring personality though. Dtf $$ 5, but I only dreamt of some some quick car action. Bbbjtcim. $$. Really warm mouth. Seems like she could be high volume. Won't repeat.

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[Ernest Ll]

My point is SBs and SDs are in it for such different things that they really should not be compared economically in any way.

The basis of any successful negotiation is for each party to find something the other party values highly that you value at a much lesser level.

Men with more $$ than available young pussy value $$ at $. For young pussy its the opposite. They give it up for free to the soulful barista, but can't make rent.

So it really is an equally agreeable negotation, not an unequal trade.

[Truncated]

In that vein, there is no other opportunity outside of SA (and related sites) where one can search and procure so much 18 - 22 yr-old pussy, with new ones arriving daily - excellent fresh produce turnover.

In other words, one cannot not find another avenue for which your time could be spent to get to the same ends. Even BP and CL did not have this quality of pussy, i. e. , bona fide hot college babes without monkeys on their backs. The SA college girls are not lying on their backs in a motel room and getting bb'ed all day long. That, to me, makes SA an opportunity like no other and cannot be replaced with anything else currently in existence. Therefore, my time spent on SA cannot be counted as a loss of another opportunity to get that type / level of pussy.

That's what makes SA so attractive to me, too.

There is much less expensive P out there, but nowhere near as clean and safe as can be found on SA.

For now, we live in a golden age for sugaring. There is so much available P on the site, it's difficult to choose.

[HappyHunter44]

I completely agree with your last sentence. But in the same vein, remember that this statement also sort of negates your thought about opportunity cost -- because I'm not necessarily looking for longer-term arrangements with these girls (I find they tend to lead to an expectation of relationship on their part in addition to offering diminishing returns on sexual performance), the opportunity cost for me is that the time I invest looking for SBs and meeting them could be spent making money or doing something else. I accept this and obviously consider it worthwhile or I wouldn't continue, but that's because sex is a basic need (for me at least) and not just a want.

I see now that we are using different parameters re opportunity costs. If you define opportunity cost as broadly as time spent, then even taking time out to play video games is an opportunity cost. So, fair enough, I understand your position.

Specifically though, I was talking about the opportunity cost as it relates to the "young pussy ecosystem. " In that vein, there is no other opportunity outside of SA (and related sites) where one can search and procure so much 18 - 22 yr-old pussy, with new ones arriving daily - excellent fresh produce turnover.

In other words, one cannot not find another avenue for which your time could be spent to get to the same ends. Even BP and CL did not have this quality of pussy, i. e. , bona fide hot college babes without monkeys on their backs. The SA college girls are not lying on their backs in a motel room and getting bb'ed all day long. That, to me, makes SA an opportunity like no other and cannot be replaced with anything else currently in existence. Therefore, my time spent on SA cannot be counted as a loss of another opportunity to get that type / level of pussy.

[HappyHunter44]

Absolutely. Sometimes the effort and infrequency of the event is part of what makes it fun. If we told those same hunters they can buy a truck full of deer that will be walked down a ramp one by one so they can get a clear head shot, they would probably be less interested in pursuing that hobby.

This is the same reason I'm not interested in the non-challenge of paying an escort. Part of the fun is finding the best girls, paying as little as possible, and fending off the attachment and emotional strings that so many of them seem hell bent on forming.

Yep. We are on the same page here.

[BookerTNelson]

Absolutely. Sometimes the effort and infrequency of the event is part of what makes it fun. If we told those same hunters they can buy a truck full of deer that will be walked down a ramp one by one so they can get a clear head shot, they would probably be less interested in pursuing that hobby.

This is the same reason I'm not interested in the non-challenge of paying an escort. Part of the fun is finding the best girls, paying as little as possible, and fending off the attachment and emotional strings that so many of them seem hell bent on forming.

This is my way of looking at it too, so Touche.

[OliverNP]

Some guys spend tens of thousands of dollars to buy a hunting lease, gun, apparel, 4 wheeler, travel trailer just so they can go hunting three or four times a year. It's whatever floats your boat, right?

Absolutely. Sometimes the effort and infrequency of the event is part of what makes it fun. If we told those same hunters they can buy a truck full of deer that will be walked down a ramp one by one so they can get a clear head shot, they would probably be less interested in pursuing that hobby.

This is the same reason I'm not interested in the non-challenge of paying an escort. Part of the fun is finding the best girls, paying as little as possible, and fending off the attachment and emotional strings that so many of them seem hell bent on forming.

[Hal1957]

Some guys spend tens of thousands of dollars to buy a hunting lease, gun, apparel, 4 wheeler, travel trailer just so they can go hunting three or four times a year. It's whatever floats your boat, right?

I completely agree with your last sentence. But in the same vein, remember that this statement also sort of negates your thought about opportunity cost -- because I'm not necessarily looking for longer-term arrangements with these girls (I find they tend to lead to an expectation of relationship on their part in addition to offering diminishing returns on sexual performance), the opportunity cost for me is that the time I invest looking for SBs and meeting them could be spent making money or doing something else. I accept this and obviously consider it worthwhile or I wouldn't continue, but that's because sex is a basic need (for me at least) and not just a want.

[TechSticles]

I've had SBs approach me with the "X $ per week" offer in the past.

My response is that I'll consider it if the $ are paid in arrears.

Too many SBs try to use that approach for a quick cash grab, and then only go to the FC once before vanishing.

$800 a week isn't bad if you like her and need P 4+ times a week.

But, with the large number and variety of SBs available on the site, I can't imagine the arrangement lasting too long.

I agree. I've had two girls that graduated to payment in advance, meaning I hit them with the cash weekly for the upcoming week. I'm picky about that, and I've never been cheated, but of course I knew where they lived. We all enjoyed the benefits. They knew they had income, and I knew I had all the pussy I wanted.

Of course I'd never do that with a chick I just met.