"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[RomanRich]

I'm not sure that this is a hobby that I'd consider inexpensive to participate in. I'm sure there are ways to save money here and there but from what I've learned in my short 7 ish weeks is you have to pay to play. Rough numbers here but I had 14 meeting at a FC with 7 girls ranging from 19-22 yo in 6 weeks and have spent about 4200 in total between the girls and hotel rooms and SA membership. 3 of the girls provided the FC so there was no cost involved for those. I don't meet these girls anywhere except the FC so there have been no lunch / dinner / coffee expenses. The one I did meet at tropical smoothie I didn't ever get to the FC. I have bought a couple of the girls a vibrator because they said they never owned one and agreed to toy play during the meeting.

You also have to look at the time that is involved as time is money. I'm a relatively young and decent looking guy and it takes a ton of time to convince these girls to meet you. I've messaged hundreds of girls within 100 miles of Richmond and spent many hours talking to the ones that message back. Sure you'll find one that will agree to meet you in the first 10 texts but those are really just pros advertising on SA. I know one guy recently said he is only paying $ on average for his sb's per meet but in my experience, the 18-22 yo sb's aren't interested in anything less than $250 per meet and it's usually higher. I'm basically just saying that this is much harder and more expensive than calling up a escort or pro.

Thanks. I appreciate the level of detail. I wasn't expecting inexpensive but thinking it was about the same as escorts with better girls and service. Looks like I'll have to dip my toe in and see what it's like. I was also considering just using Tinder. It's wired for me in the past but I was traveling for work all the time so it was easier. I'm not too concerned about age, in fact a more long term affair with no strings attached is my ideal. Thanks again for all the help. Have plenty to think about before I decide to make the switch from escorts.

RR.

[ItsAHobby45]

Never tried the sugar bowl before but thinking of giving it a shot. I always assumed I needed a lot more money but based on the posts I'm reading, it looks like it's not what I thought. I do have one question though, what is an FC? I read back a few pages but couldn't quite figure out what it means. I kept coming back to Fun (Fuck) cabin. Do some of you own a place that you can bring girls to? I would have to rely on hotels, AirBnB or car dates.

Thanks.

RR.

I'm not sure that this is a hobby that I'd consider inexpensive to participate in. I'm sure there are ways to save money here and there but from what I've learned in my short 7 ish weeks is you have to pay to play. Rough numbers here but I had 14 meeting at a FC with 7 girls ranging from 19-22 yo in 6 weeks and have spent about 4200 in total between the girls and hotel rooms and SA membership. 3 of the girls provided the FC so there was no cost involved for those. I don't meet these girls anywhere except the FC so there have been no lunch / dinner / coffee expenses. The one I did meet at tropical smoothie I didn't ever get to the FC. I have bought a couple of the girls a vibrator because they said they never owned one and agreed to toy play during the meeting.

You also have to look at the time that is involved as time is money. I'm a relatively young and decent looking guy and it takes a ton of time to convince these girls to meet you. I've messaged hundreds of girls within 100 miles of Richmond and spent many hours talking to the ones that message back. Sure you'll find one that will agree to meet you in the first 10 texts but those are really just pros advertising on SA. I know one guy recently said he is only paying $ on average for his sb's per meet but in my experience, the 18-22 yo sb's aren't interested in anything less than $250 per meet and it's usually higher. I'm basically just saying that this is much harder and more expensive than calling up a escort or pro.

[MulchMan]

Never tried the sugar bowl before but thinking of giving it a shot. I always assumed I needed a lot more money but based on the posts I'm reading, it looks like it's not what I thought. I do have one question though, what is an FC? I read back a few pages but couldn't quite figure out what it means. I kept coming back to Fun (Fuck) cabin. Do some of you own a place that you can bring girls to? I would have to rely on hotels, AirBnB or car dates.

Thanks.

RR.

In addition to $ you will need a lot of time and patience, especially with the young SBs. Good luck.

[DWinthrop]

Never tried the sugar bowl before but thinking of giving it a shot. I always assumed I needed a lot more money but based on the posts I'm reading, it looks like it's not what I thought. I do have one question though, what is an FC? I read back a few pages but couldn't quite figure out what it means. I kept coming back to Fun (Fuck) cabin. Do some of you own a place that you can bring girls to? I would have to rely on hotels, AirBnB or car dates.

Thanks.

RR.

Fuck Chamber. Wherever you bang them, your place, hotel, apartment, etc.

[RomanRich]

Never tried the sugar bowl before but thinking of giving it a shot. I always assumed I needed a lot more money but based on the posts I'm reading, it looks like it's not what I thought. I do have one question though, what is an FC? I read back a few pages but couldn't quite figure out what it means. I kept coming back to Fun (Fuck) cabin. Do some of you own a place that you can bring girls to? I would have to rely on hotels, AirBnB or car dates.

Thanks.

RR.

[Lost Soul]

My bad. Some reason I read it as 1 K; probably my morning blues; Haha.

I'm very aware that I'll infect this girl with GPS if I'm able to seal the deal for 1 k and it's very unfortunate because I'd only see her once for that much $. She just happened to be my very first target when I got started with this hobby so I don't think I'll be content until I reach that goal. Unfortunately for me she won't respond to texts / messages from me at all so I think I'll just have to accept defeat. The site is just so full or 22-25 yo girls that are seasoned in the bowl and I've grown bored of them and the number of 18-19 yo that are interested in anything physical is just so limited. Every 18-19 yo I message either doesn't read the message or just wants a platonic relationship and to sell pics / vids.

Edit: I just noticed you quoted me about Mia and not Lily. I paid Mia 4$ each of the 3 times I met her. Not 1k.

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[ItsAHobby45]

1 k!! Of-course that kinda money should get you true GFE and whatever you want. No wonder why girls aren't budging lately when they can find high-roller POTs like you. LOL.

I'm very aware that I'll infect this girl with GPS if I'm able to seal the deal for 1 k and it's very unfortunate because I'd only see her once for that much $. She just happened to be my very first target when I got started with this hobby so I don't think I'll be content until I reach that goal. Unfortunately for me she won't respond to texts / messages from me at all so I think I'll just have to accept defeat. The site is just so full or 22-25 yo girls that are seasoned in the bowl and I've grown bored of them and the number of 18-19 yo that are interested in anything physical is just so limited. Every 18-19 yo I message either doesn't read the message or just wants a platonic relationship and to sell pics / vids.

Edit: I just noticed you quoted me about Mia and not Lily. I paid Mia 4$ each of the 3 times I met her. Not 1k.

[EasyeOne]

It's such a shame. We talked via text for a long time so o really though I was making progress. I've been after her since I initially signed up for SA. I'd probably pay her 1 k for a long evening with her just because she's been my goal for so long.

Same experience. Also sent pictures and talked about getting together but when it came time to schedule. Ghost or something came up. Best of luck! Might just be around for online entertainment and to waste time.

[ItsAHobby45]

I had the exact same experience with lilync so she's either waiting for Ryan Reynolds or is just a time waster.

It's such a shame. We talked via text for a long time so o really though I was making progress. I've been after her since I initially signed up for SA. I'd probably pay her 1 k for a long evening with her just because she's been my goal for so long.

[RavensFan2012]

Baileybaby99.

Can't meet until Jan 2 when her mom gets off vacation but would love for you to send her money for living expenses and baby items. Doesn't have a car or a phone. Time waster.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0a8a7...c-796068d4a29f

Lilync.

VCU student. Tried hard to get this one to meet me. I'd pay just about anything for this one. We moved to text and she seemed to be interested and agreed to a meeting once things settled down with school. I questioned if she was even real and she sent me a custom picture with my name written on a piece of paper. We texted for a few days and she ghosted. I've tried to communicate with her again with zero luck. Maybe you guys will have more luck. She logs in regularly on SA so she's still active.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b955b...a-2b2b351621a9

Mia1254.

Mia is a community college student in Richmond. We talked via text about meeting and things kind of went cold for a while even though she is my perfect type. She sent other pictures so I knew she was real. After not talking to her for a week or two I sent a random message saying I'd pay her $$$$ to meet up with her. She quickly accepted and she met me in the FC the next afternoon. She's a very sweet girl. We spent a few hours together. It was true GFE. We talked and laughed and had a great time. Eventually we got to business and it was great. Her head game is amazing and she let me go in raw and in any position I wanted. She was perfectly fine with cip. I've met with her 2 times since and had great experiences both times. I've debated keeping her as my regular dtf but at $$$$ I think I can fine a better value. If you guys are able to land this one please treat her good as she is very sweet.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2cc1d...3-faca0705ae6f

Toocharmy4 u.

She's been reviewed before when she had a different SA account but I'll review her again. This girl is dtf and hosts in her apartment. I think she's more of an utr but she actually has a professional job so idk. She's a bit more weathered than her profile picture suggests but she still has a nice body and is actually a pretty nice girl. I've seen her 4-5 times and she's open to anything you want to do to her and is fine with everything raw as long as no cip. Our first meeting was $$ and all the subsequent ones were only $. Her head game is good but that's always a bit rushed. She will take a pounding in any position you want to give it to her and actually asked me to try to back 9 one time which was decent but not really my thing. I planned to use her as a cheap fix whenever I was traveling up north as she lives just north of Richmond right off i95 but the last time I went to her house I walked in and her daughter was there which is a big no no for me. To make matters worse she walked me upstairs and into her daughters bed because her mattress was downstairs in the living room for some reason. This just made me feel very uncomfortable so I won't see her again. Be forewarned, after you see her the first time she will hit you up for money towards future visits and use her daughter as the reason for needing $25 here and there. I always helped her and sent money via Venmo and to her defense she was always asking me to come see her so she could get caught up on what was owed. She never flaked on me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/25871...3-690db2fecb9d

I'll review some of my others that I have taken to the FC as I have more time. I'll also review the time wasters and pic sellers. Be safe guys.

I had the exact same experience with lilync so she's either waiting for Ryan Reynolds or is just a time waster.

[ItsAHobby45]

Baileybaby99.

Can't meet until Jan 2 when her mom gets off vacation but would love for you to send her money for living expenses and baby items. Doesn't have a car or a phone. Time waster.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0a8a7...c-796068d4a29f

Lilync.

VCU student. Tried hard to get this one to meet me. I'd pay just about anything for this one. We moved to text and she seemed to be interested and agreed to a meeting once things settled down with school. I questioned if she was even real and she sent me a custom picture with my name written on a piece of paper. We texted for a few days and she ghosted. I've tried to communicate with her again with zero luck. Maybe you guys will have more luck. She logs in regularly on SA so she's still active.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b955b...a-2b2b351621a9

Mia1254.

Mia is a community college student in Richmond. We talked via text about meeting and things kind of went cold for a while even though she is my perfect type. She sent other pictures so I knew she was real. After not talking to her for a week or two I sent a random message saying I'd pay her $$$$ to meet up with her. She quickly accepted and she met me in the FC the next afternoon. She's a very sweet girl. We spent a few hours together. It was true GFE. We talked and laughed and had a great time. Eventually we got to business and it was great. Her head game is amazing and she let me go in raw and in any position I wanted. She was perfectly fine with cip. I've met with her 2 times since and had great experiences both times. I've debated keeping her as my regular dtf but at $$$$ I think I can fine a better value. If you guys are able to land this one please treat her good as she is very sweet.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2cc1d...3-faca0705ae6f

Toocharmy4 u.

She's been reviewed before when she had a different SA account but I'll review her again. This girl is dtf and hosts in her apartment. I think she's more of an utr but she actually has a professional job so idk. She's a bit more weathered than her profile picture suggests but she still has a nice body and is actually a pretty nice girl. I've seen her 4-5 times and she's open to anything you want to do to her and is fine with everything raw as long as no cip. Our first meeting was $$ and all the subsequent ones were only $. Her head game is good but that's always a bit rushed. She will take a pounding in any position you want to give it to her and actually asked me to try to back 9 one time which was decent but not really my thing. I planned to use her as a cheap fix whenever I was traveling up north as she lives just north of Richmond right off i95 but the last time I went to her house I walked in and her daughter was there which is a big no no for me. To make matters worse she walked me upstairs and into her daughters bed because her mattress was downstairs in the living room for some reason. This just made me feel very uncomfortable so I won't see her again. Be forewarned, after you see her the first time she will hit you up for money towards future visits and use her daughter as the reason for needing $25 here and there. I always helped her and sent money via Venmo and to her defense she was always asking me to come see her so she could get caught up on what was owed. She never flaked on me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/25871...3-690db2fecb9d

I'll review some of my others that I have taken to the FC as I have more time. I'll also review the time wasters and pic sellers. Be safe guys.

[BlueEyedMan58]

Been in kind of a dry spell lately. Down to two regulars, one (a 23 yr old waitress) I just have no appetite for right now for reasons unknown, the other (28 yr old caregiver) was in her "time" last week. Had 4 m / g's scheduled -- 3 flakes and one who was willing to FC for the smallest of gifts, but just did nothing for me so I passed. Then Sunday had a very quick m / g with a 34 old stunner / spinner who turned out to be 5 X better looking than her pics. Tall, trim, blonde. Daisy Mae tight blue jean shorts, bare midriff and not an ounce of fat on her belly. FC date at her place for tomorrow morning for "whatever I feel comfortable with. " Why am I (twice her age and no George Clooney to be sure) so blessed? Well, she said, "if a guy's not bad looking and treats me nicely and can make me laugh, Sent me her address tonight, so I'm pretty sure this is real.

Plus in a demonstration of how crazy this world of young pie makes me (us?) I'm trying to schedule 2 m / gs with a 28 year old hottie and a 21 year old total stunner for tomorrow afternoon. In one sense being retired sucks, because I don't have business meetings and travel and such as cover, but on the other hand I can often meet these girls mornings and afternoons when no one else can.

So, things are looking up.

[ItsAHobby45]

Yeah, that's how the conversation started with me too. $$ for lunch. Hah!

I just kept at it and she opened up. 10 bills (5 each) was just too much. The pic on her profile is not her, but she looks similar. White, slim, shorter than her profile says though. We were texting and she sent pics of her and her friend who is short, slim, AA, and cute. Some guys can swing 1 K like it's no big deal; I'm just not one of them.

Good luck if you reach out and please report back!

Talked to her again. She's agreed to a HJ for 5 bills but says that all she's willing to do. Definitely seems like a waste of time considering there are many 19-22 college girls willing to go to FC for half that. I left 18 off that lost because that's my unicorn that I just can't seem to nail down. I've had almost 19-22 yo in the FC in the 6 weeks I've been on SA but I can't seem to bag a 18. Anyone wants to point me in the direction I'd greatly appreciate it.

[WaterBoi]

Yeah, that's how the conversation started with me too. $$ for lunch. Hah!

I just kept at it and she opened up. 10 bills (5 each) was just too much. The pic on her profile is not her, but she looks similar. White, slim, shorter than her profile says though. We were texting and she sent pics of her and her friend who is short, slim, AA, and cute. Some guys can swing 1 K like it's no big deal; I'm just not one of them.

Good luck if you reach out and please report back!

Are you sure she was interested in something sexual? She told me she would gladly meet me for $$ but has no interest in anything physical with anyone.

[ItsAHobby45]

I'd avoid this one at all cost. We talked and she seemed really normal but was very quick to move the conversation to the when and how much subject. We agreed on an amount $$ and she was able to host in her shared apartment in downtown Richmond. She sent several nudes and they were very appealing so I took the plunge. I arrived at her apartment and we were alone although she said she hosts when her roommates are home also. Physically she looks like her pics in her profile but naked her body definitely wasn't as fit as the nudes she sent. We had agreed on bb and everything was on the table. Started with BBBJ which was absolutely the worst BJ I've ever had. She has the worst gag reflex I've ever seen and twice I thought she was going to completely vomit on me. I quickly decided to use a condom because she gave me a strong utr or even pro vibe so I strapped it on and went in mish and finished. Got dressed and handed her the money and left.

She texted me later and said it was fun and when can we do it again. I explained to her I was unhappy and that I wouldn't see her again for $$ and we'd have to renegotiate as I'd still be open to seeing her for quick visits just because it's convenient and she hosts. She got super offended and went crazy on me threatening me ect. I blocked her. See her at your own risk guys.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f3719...3-e1cfd32ac3ad