Non Pro's

**DrtyHarry** · 08-26-19 16:32

Originally Posted by DelToro [View Original Post]

I saw her out of SA a couple of times, she has been review her before.

She had several profiles on SA that I can not find now.

Here are two I found out of SDM.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/user_...of_id=65031656

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/user_...91c2VybmFtZQ==

I saw her a couple of times and it was great.

Since then she canceled last minute three times and wants more money. She said our initial agreement of $250 is now way to low.

Originally Posted by DelToro [View Original Post]

Couple of Photos.

Originally Posted by DrtyHarry [View Original Post]

Yeah I had seen her as well I paid 300 + morning after pill = She hosts in her Georgetown apartment 2 * BBFSCIP. Saw her twice in December and once in January. Last week she cancelled on me at the last minute. Similar experience.

Originally Posted by Diver6390 [View Original Post]

I had tried to see her twice, not even to play, just a meet and greet. Flaked both times. At those meetings, she said she was hosting at her house way out in east Renton. First time, she text me as I was leaving for the meet and told me she was sick. Okay, shit happens. Second time, SHE confirmed morning of lunch meet. I got to lunch, multiple text messages and phone calls went to a black hole. Nothing, she just ghosted on me. I guess I was somewhat lucky and missed the GPS and drama.

By the way, I looked at her two SDM profiles, one said she is recently divorced, the other said recently widowed. Seem rather odd.

So after flaking a bunch of guys on SA, she has moved on to TNA and turned PRO. With the amount she ghosts, she will get a few complaints pretty soon.

https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?434532-HollyJames

**NewHere27** · 08-26-19 12:22

Originally Posted by NewHere27 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/cf801...7-d5f22c087be9

Read her profile and found that she wants to video chat initially? Anyone end up meeting her?

Can anyone tell me if anyone met her and how was the experience? It will be great if I could know. Thanks in advance.

**SeaTownGuy** · 08-26-19 07:07

Jessica crush got serious injury which causes some motor skill issues and lost lots of weight. Not worth it.

**Twister100** · 08-26-19 01:48

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

I do have to say that everyone that wanted $400-500 for a ppm and I've told them it's more than I'm willing to spend have come back later (sometimes a month or two) with a lower amount. That being said, I never took any of them up on it. I had already moved on. For flat allowances, I've paid $750-2000 month (payable weekly) + dinner, drinks and other gifts. The ladies that I paid the higher amounts to ($1750-2000) became really complacent really quick and the hot sex in the first week or two became very vanilla boring sex by about week 5-6.

I think that's a really good point about the ladies getting complacent. If they see it as a job, there is a tendency to just mail it in after awhile whereas the ones that are looking to get their freak on are there for more than the $ so they tend to keep it fresh.

**Michael1967** · 08-25-19 17:55

Originally Posted by HBadger [View Original Post]

If they're just looking for some extra income, those ladies are generally the ones that are the best. All they want is to have fun and a little extra money. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not willing to pay over 300 ppm anymore. No putang is worth that much in my opinion. But again, to each his own. Obviously some of these guys have more money than me and they can do whatever they want LOL.

I do have to say that everyone that wanted $400-500 for a ppm and I've told them it's more than I'm willing to spend have come back later (sometimes a month or two) with a lower amount. That being said, I never took any of them up on it. I had already moved on. For flat allowances, I've paid $750-2000 month (payable weekly) + dinner, drinks and other gifts. The ladies that I paid the higher amounts to ($1750-2000) became really complacent really quick and the hot sex in the first week or two became very vanilla boring sex by about week 5-6.

**Member #6729** · 08-25-19 17:36

Originally Posted by Twister100 [View Original Post]

It's whatever you can work out with the SB. I know some SB's have mentioned 500 ppm or 3000/ month as a "gold standard" so I can only assume they have been reading some BS blog about sugaring. I think most of the smart ones understand that perhaps there is an ideal out there but what they can realistically get may be quite different. Some obviously have a budget goal so they are just saying 500 ppm for 6 visits or 3000 monthly for how many visits you want or some variation on that math. Personally I avoid the ones that see sugaring as the primary income. I rather spend a bit more effort and find a SB that is looking to supplement their income and have a good time. They usually are more willing to negotiate.

If they're just looking for some extra income, those ladies are generally the ones that are the best. All they want is to have fun and a little extra money. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not willing to pay over 300 ppm anymore. No putang is worth that much in my opinion. But again, to each his own. Obviously some of these guys have more money than me and they can do whatever they want LOL.

**SaladHermit** · 08-25-19 17:08

Originally Posted by Toomgis [View Original Post]

First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.

I've only had one monthly arrangement, and the rate per meeting was a bit higher than I typically do for a PPM. I really liked her, and she was coming from far away to see me so it was worth it for me. I gave her $1,4000 a month and we would see each other once a week for about 3-4 hours.

**Twister100** · 08-25-19 15:22

Originally Posted by Toomgis [View Original Post]

First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.

It's whatever you can work out with the SB. I know some SB's have mentioned 500 ppm or 3000/ month as a "gold standard" so I can only assume they have been reading some BS blog about sugaring. I think most of the smart ones understand that perhaps there is an ideal out there but what they can realistically get may be quite different. Some obviously have a budget goal so they are just saying 500 ppm for 6 visits or 3000 monthly for how many visits you want or some variation on that math. Personally I avoid the ones that see sugaring as the primary income. I rather spend a bit more effort and find a SB that is looking to supplement their income and have a good time. They usually are more willing to negotiate.

**Piketty** · 08-25-19 15:01

Originally Posted by JustRandy [View Original Post]

Very sad as wonderful body, awesome daty, BBFS allowed but no cip, dressed immediately. Waste of a beautiful lady. I erased her private number so I would not repeat as I don't trust myself. It's a time sensitive job, that she has perfected.

I wrote a rob report on her and her friend- a thicker asian girl with glasses. After Valerie took donation, menu dried up immediately, knock on door a few minutes later. Wouldn't give back donation.

Lesson learned: never give donation first.

**Toomgis** · 08-25-19 14:50

First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.

**DelToro** · 08-25-19 14:16

Originally Posted by HBadger [View Original Post]

You're the reason these chicks ask for so much lmao Your the guy this forum complains about. To each his own I guess. Sounds like a pro though, if she's asking for hourly.

She does look super yummy.

But yeah what's the point to go to SA to pay hourly inflated rates.

**Member #6729** · 08-25-19 14:09

Originally Posted by StoryTime40 [View Original Post]

300 for the hour; 5 $ or two hours. 2 xCIP in the hour.

You're the reason these chicks ask for so much lmao Your the guy this forum complains about. To each his own I guess. Sounds like a pro though, if she's asking for hourly.

**JustRandy** · 08-25-19 12:48

Originally Posted by DrTraveler [View Original Post]

She's been on and off SA under various names. Beautiful and amazing body, but a dead fish in bed. Promises one thing, takes your gift up front, and then completely fails to deliver. Don't waste your time!

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9f35...a-8425d485fa1b

Very sad as wonderful body, awesome daty, BBFS allowed but no cip, dressed immediately. Waste of a beautiful lady. I erased her private number so I would not repeat as I don't trust myself. It's a time sensitive job, that she has perfected.

**Twister100** · 08-25-19 04:43

https://www.seeking.com/member/4c417...2-6bc9d683836b
2500-4k/month.

BelleAnna
https://www.seeking.com/member/ecf67...b-3f61d1b6ce31
She said she wanted both an allowance & ppm. I follow up and ask for the actual amounts.

Scammer ProfessionalSB.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a276...f-9e345faa3609
Pictures are of premium nude snapchat picture seller Jenna Jade. Either it's actually Jenna and she's just trying to drive more biz to her site or someone is pretending those pictures are them. Either way a waste of time.

https://www.instagram.com/jennajjade/?hl=en
https://www.amateurscrush.com/girlfr...snapchat-pics/

**CreamPieGuy543** · 08-25-19 02:04

The Richmond, VA forum also has some good posts on dealing with this.

Originally Posted by MyNickname [View Original Post]

I noticed the number of attempts to scam me in SA has gone up considerably. A lot want me to send money before anything else with different excuses for it. Another thing that is happening is those who want allowance for only social activities until they feel comfortable for more.

I also have noticed a lot of ladies doing the same tactic of going to SA to get a new guy to give them more allowance that they are currently getting from their current SD. That is the reason they are asking for ridiculous amounts like 500,600, 700,800, 1000 for a meet, that is because they already have a guy that is allowing them to look for some higher allowance.

I had a conversation with a couple of my current SBs because I saw them in the site and I contacted them using a different profile and found out they were asking for more than what I give them. I told them I found out what they were doing and that if they are not happy with my current allowance then we can end the arrangement and no hard feelings but that I was not going to wait for them to replace me for a guy that offers to give them more. I told them I would find out if they kept doing it and then we would end the arrangement immediately. Both took down their profiles because they didn't want to lose the allowance that allowed them to try to get something higher and that it was already good allowance for them.