BBFS Bareback in Portland

[BBPornoGeek]

She was missing teeth when I saw her.

She was missing teeth when I saw her about a month ago. Body is still nice, pussy is tight but BB upsell was a cool 300 on top of her regular rate. I'm like you've got to be fucking kidding me. Head game was good though. Plowed her almost the whole hour with her complaining it's getting too much. Told her if she would just give up and go bare, it would be a whole lot better, refused. So I kept plowing until the end and let it go. Her pussy was all red and sore, ruined for the night.

[Joponn]

She's a good lay. But damn, not the prettiest lady. She is willing to do BBFS CIP. Even BB Greek with CIA.

You right about the lay, her greeting "Why don't you just fuck me" but you also right about the ugly and she must be way past her advertised age of 57.

[Thucydides2000]

More and more of them aren't selling pussy because they can get guys to pay them for not fucking them. There are chicks who just do one paid meet and greet after another with no intention of EVER fucking a single guy and why would they. There are idiots paying them hundreds of dollars to have a cup of coffee.

I'll never understand it.

A2.

So like I said, I have a method (for lack of a better word).

Yes, there are some who say that they don't sell themselves and just want get paid to hang out. And will only do something if it turns out that way (there are a very few who stick to this as well). Then I reiterate that I'm not looking to pay for sex. However, I am looking for a friend with benefits, and that I have plenty of friends (including some beautiful ones) who I can hang out with for free.

As a friend with benefits, it's not all about sex. But part of the thing is sex.

That if they want to hang out with no money involved a few times until they build that level of comfort, then I'm happy to do that.

I'll buy them lunch or coffee a couple times to just talk and get to know each other. No money, pressure or expectations involved. If they are comfortable after that then we can always move on from there. And if not, then we didn't really lose anything other than a little time.

Most agree to that idea and are willing to to meet and feel it out.

But the reality is that most don't want to waste that much time repeatedly, but they do need something to justify sleeping with a person they just met without feeling like a *****. IE: they were told directly by you that it's ok to say no to sex.

9 out of 10 will still sleep with you from the first time, and every time after. But the idea that they don't have to makes them feel better. Hell, I've had a few of them that became fuck buddys for nothing other the coffee or food I buy each time we meet. It's about their mindset going into it. Some are ok with the black and white concept you describe, but some are not and need the comfort built. But pretty much all of them appreciate it either way.

In short, I do make it clear that I don't just pay people a large amount of money just to hang out. But if they do want to "just hang out" to build comfort, then I'm ok with it. I'll buy the meal or drinks to do that.

Once they are comfortable after talking, they nearly always decide that they are good to go and don't want to continue spending this time while not getting paid. So we move forward from there.

With comfort built and not feeling transactional, prices drop as well because you aren't just an ATM and they aren't just ass for hire.

[Admin2]

Well said! The struggle is that these ho's are constantly trying to disassociate the payment from the act of making you cum. Maybe its the way that they rationalize it in their head. But at the end of the day, they are selling their pussy. Plain and simple.

More and more of them aren't selling pussy because they can get guys to pay them for not fucking them. There are chicks who just do one paid meet and greet after another with no intention of EVER fucking a single guy and why would they. There are idiots paying them hundreds of dollars to have a cup of coffee.

I'll never understand it.

A2.

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

It's honestly not really that hard.

In my experience, somewhere between 75%-80% of the girls I get into a conversation with (on SA) are willing to meet up in a way that would earn them a mention on this board.

Don't get me wrong, there's a fair number of them that when you contact them you will never even get a response. They're so overloaded with guys contacting them on that site, but they never even get back to you.

But of the ones that I do get into an actual exchange back-and-forth, the success rate is pretty high. Or I should say that the agreeability factor is pretty high. Meaning that after a little bit of conversation, I have gotten directly to the point and they've been OK with it.

Not all of those people come in at the numbers I discussed, but for some number (Almost always below $500) they are willing.

Of that 75% to 80% who are willing for "some number", it is probably only another 50% to 75% of those who fall into the range I mentioned on my other post.

As with all things, it is YMMV. It's all about how you present yourself to them. I've had more than a couple of them tell me that there is a bunch of creepy, perverted older guys on that site. Emphasis is on creepy and perverted, not as much about the older part.

A few months ago I put a quick post up talking about how I had a certain method if you well that I use. That makes it sound a little bit mysterious, but it's really not.

Be respectful, and get to know them.

Ask how they are.

How their search is coming along. What are they here for specifically. What they like to do for fun.

Learn about them in a genuine way, not a creepy one.

Then let them know what you are looking for.

Hint: if it's just sex, you have a high probability of getting denied.

You were doing so well until that last line.

No issues with pretending with them that they aren't hookers, but when you start lying to yourself it's bad, that's where the GPS comes in.

Regardless of what delusions SD's tell themselves when a chick won't fuck you unless you are dropping cash in the till, regardless of what you call that cash, then she's a prostitute and if she's a prostitute sooner or later she needs to know that the money is for service, not because she's pretty.

This is why there are so many chicks on SA looking to be paid for, wait for it, PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS. At the end of the day if they don't realize on some level, even if it's unsaid, that they are hookers and their job is to fuck you well then it's time to move on to the next one.

The biggest most successful SD I know (trust me I know a few) always ends up cutting the same deal. You make X every time you make me cum. He NEVER severs the cord between sex and money. Lots of chicks don't like it and his attitude is NEXT.

So sure, talk about the stuff they want to hear and once they are interested it make them understand they have a job to do. Unless you want to encourage ever increasing levels of GPS it ALWAYS needs to be about the sex.

A2

Well said! The struggle is that these ho's are constantly trying to disassociate the payment from the act of making you cum. Maybe its the way that they rationalize it in their head. But at the end of the day, they are selling their pussy. Plain and simple.

[MisterLover]

I had a great experience with her probably two or three years ago. I mention this because I see she's back posting again.

Super cute face and nice body just a little baby fat.

CIP was negotiated ahead of time with no extra charge. Great lay!

Would be nice to hear an update.

https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?...-WittyKittyKat

[PNWPlay]

Curious, does anyone have any inside details about her? Appreciate your input, also ok to send a PM.

http://portland.skipthegames.com/fem...d/198785828113

She's a good lay. But damn, not the prettiest lady. She is willing to do BBFS CIP. Even BB Greek with CIA.

[Thucydides2000]

I need that list! LOL.

It's honestly not really that hard.

In my experience, somewhere between 75%-80% of the girls I get into a conversation with (on SA) are willing to meet up in a way that would earn them a mention on this board.

Don't get me wrong, there's a fair number of them that when you contact them you will never even get a response. They're so overloaded with guys contacting them on that site, but they never even get back to you.

But of the ones that I do get into an actual exchange back-and-forth, the success rate is pretty high. Or I should say that the agreeability factor is pretty high. Meaning that after a little bit of conversation, I have gotten directly to the point and they've been OK with it.

Not all of those people come in at the numbers I discussed, but for some number (Almost always below $500) they are willing.

Of that 75% to 80% who are willing for "some number", it is probably only another 50% to 75% of those who fall into the range I mentioned on my other post.

As with all things, it is YMMV. It's all about how you present yourself to them. I've had more than a couple of them tell me that there is a bunch of creepy, perverted older guys on that site. Emphasis is on creepy and perverted, not as much about the older part.

A few months ago I put a quick post up talking about how I had a certain method if you well that I use. That makes it sound a little bit mysterious, but it's really not.

Be respectful, and get to know them.

Ask how they are.

How their search is coming along. What are they here for specifically. What they like to do for fun.

Learn about them in a genuine way, not a creepy one.

Then let them know what you are looking for.

Hint: if it's just sex, you have a high probability of getting denied.

You were doing so well until that last line.

No issues with pretending with them that they aren't hookers, but when you start lying to yourself it's bad, that's where the GPS comes in.

Regardless of what delusions SD's tell themselves when a chick won't fuck you unless you are dropping cash in the till, regardless of what you call that cash, then she's a prostitute and if she's a prostitute sooner or later she needs to know that the money is for service, not because she's pretty.

This is why there are so many chicks on SA looking to be paid for, wait for it, PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS. At the end of the day if they don't realize on some level, even if it's unsaid, that they are hookers and their job is to fuck you well then it's time to move on to the next one.

The biggest most successful SD I know (trust me I know a few) always ends up cutting the same deal. You make X every time you make me cum. He NEVER severs the cord between sex and money. Lots of chicks don't like it and his attitude is NEXT.

So sure, talk about the stuff they want to hear and once they are interested it make them understand they have a job to do. Unless you want to encourage ever increasing levels of GPS it ALWAYS needs to be about the sex.

A2

[TomAce]

Curious, does anyone have any inside details about her? Appreciate your input, also ok to send a PM.

http://portland.skipthegames.com/fem...d/198785828113

She was actually a gal that ole bradcooperman referred a while back. If I remember correctly someone literally fucked out of her LOL no joke.

[Adventurous112]

Is there a link I couldn't find it.

Check out post 219. Uuuhhhhhhh. Trying to forget.

[MisterLover]

Is there a link I couldn't find it.

I believe Kingof4's had reviewed her on this forum last winter.

[Boomer14]

Curious, does anyone have any inside details about her? Appreciate your input, also ok to send a PM.

http://portland.skipthegames.com/fem...d/198785828113

I believe Kingof4's had reviewed her on this forum last winter.

[Jogran50]

Curious, does anyone have any inside details about her? Appreciate your input, also ok to send a PM.

http://portland.skipthegames.com/fem...d/198785828113

[Bobby ShafToe]

I've not seen her, but I do have a list of girls from SA that's about 60 deep.

All willing to meet (in a way that would put them in this forum) for 300 or less. Most for between 200-250. A handful for between 100-200.

There are plenty more out there who are willing to meet for about that as well. The 300 is my personal, and honestly I rarely even go that high.

I've only personally seen and verified for myself about 30 of them.

The rest are just what they quoted while talking to them.

Like all things, It's all YMMV.

But SA is a great place if you are willing to put the time into the discussions and deal with flakes on there for the start of conversation but then not finish it. Because they are being by literally hundreds of other guys, and this isn't a lifestyle for most of them. So many of them don't do well with splitting their time back-and-forth between people.

Very short attention span's.

I need that list! LOL.

[BBHusky]

I thought I saw a mentioning of her before on here, any first hand Intel? Thanks.

https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread....50-250-LMA-LMS