Massage Parlor Reports

[PilotAviator]

Not yet but always looking for new spots in Springfield.

Originally Posted by OldManRose -- Has anyone tried Lily Therapy in Springfield?
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Lily Therapy is one of three AMPs in the complex of townhouse businesses near MickyDs.

Lily was Hera.

Perhaps new management -- perhaps just rebranding to advertise as new.

This is no comment on Lily / Hera (or the others) -- I was not a client at 7001 (however, I frequently visited Blue around the corner. And Blue has had four names in the years I've been visiting there).

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

[DC002]

After suffering through Vandara Thai, was in Chantilly for business.

Met 2 wonderful ladies that were pretty, shapely and slim. And knew what they were doing. Socialized with both for a while. One knows me well. Place was Best Therapy. Smaller-shorter one was Bebe. Sweet and aimed to please. She knows what to do but has her limits to keep it safe, which I like. Had a delightful time and lots of non rush fun after a good table shower.

During table shower other taller one comes in and jokes around with me and Bebe. She is the one I knew from before. What a body and smile and personality! Her name is Cinderella. Maybe she can make magic for me next time.

In any case, lots of nice fun and times and not real silly games. They know I tip well, usually before we start, because negotiations kill the mood for me.

In any case, enjoy.

DC002.

[Titan Omega]

Has anyone tried Lily Therapy in Springfield?

Not yet but always looking for new spots in Springfield.

[OldManRose]

Has anyone tried Lily Therapy in Springfield?

[Freddy35]

Was on my way home and spotted this place from 28 while sitting in traffic, I had nothing to do so I went home to shower and gave it a shot. I was greeted by Lucy (mid to late 20's shoulder length hair perky b cup, flat ass) 40 hhr 60 hr, they have stand up shower but its self serve.

Medium massage was OK, she didn't back away when I rubbed her butt while she was working on my shoulders, on the flip it was right in to the nova. Otc / utc seems to be the only thing on the menu at the moment. Chatting w her at the end and she told me they have only been open a week and will have new girls in a week or so, she repeated a few times "tell all your friends" I tipped 40 and she was happy.

So here I am telling "all my friends".

Hemi.

I went on a trip to see Joanna at Red Rose / Garden in the Burke Area. A 25 minute drive for me. I called first and set a time of 1:30. At 1:25 as I'm approaching she texts and says sorry lets do 2:30. I pull over and text back If I go home I'm not coming back. I remember the favorable review above and adjust my route to head down 28. I call ahead and she says come on in so 10 minutes of painful drive S on 28 and I arrive.

Sophie answers the door and at first glance looks pretty good. She's not a spinner but is well proportioned and the top looks like it might be interesting. She asks if I need a shower. I said Table? And she says no so I decline having showered an hour before. She leads me to the room. Her massage was passable, not CMT quality but she did find some knots and worked on them with her elbows a bit. After a hot towel cleanup she does a little light fingertip touching and then asks for the flip. Once I'm looking up she asks if certain areas need attention and I reply of course. I rub her butt a little and then ask if OTC up top is ok. She grabs the bottom of her shirt and out pop the girls. Once freed they are about perfect for me. Full firm C's, very fun to play with. After the finish she says I have 10 minutes left. Wow, no hustle out the door. A nice head and neck massage later and I'm out. Damage was 60 to the house and 40 for a tip. I would certainly go back.

[JasonCuse]

How old is she or does she really look?

Is she American or Euro or South American? ST is mainly Hispanic even though it had some great finds 10 years back, so I'm just curious about this one.

[JasonCuse]

No need to tip in NOVA. $120 is the out the door price. Many have gotten more than HE for $120 total.

Jessica was fat and had bad breath. She was nice, but when I was feeling her body there were not flat services. It was like I needed to put my hand in 4 wheel drive to go over all the rolls.

I've seen Holly and Molly, as well as, Caroline at Eden. If rating all 4 girls.

Face.

Holly 8/10.

Molly 9/10.

Caroline 6/10.

Jessica 6/10.

Body.

Holly 9/10.

Molly 9/10.

Caroline 7/10 (she's prob 40 but fakes and tone).

Jessica 2/10.

Service.

Holly 8/10.

Molly 6.5/10.

Caroline 7.5/10.

Jessica 4/10.

Holly is a hot chic from Vegas who visits every few months. Nice body. She really excels on the teasing while on your stomach, which I love. Massage was solid and HE was good. Topless, underwear, HJ, FIV.

Molly is her slightly older, but prettier sister. Looks like she was a pageant queen, like Ms. Fairfax County, type. She was very nice but pretty vanilla. She wasn't hating what she was doing but she def wasn't coloring outside the lines. Nice body. Topless, underwear, FOV, HJ.

Caroline looks like that Hispanic woman who works at your HS, and has a nice body and fake boobs, but is prob 40. She teased all over and was all over my Dick the entire session. She was more a drunk driver w her hands vs stoned and slow. She did get on top of me on the flip w her back to me and that was new. She's a hard worker which helps but she def could hurt your shit if not careful. Topless, underwear, FIV, HJ.

Jessica was in DC which sucks bc that's where I live and unless a girl is visiting from out of town, the DC girl is not one of the good ones. I said what I thought above. Chubby chasers enjoy.

FYI, she works at a legal brothel in Reno, as an escort. I thought she might hide this info from some clients, as it leaves the door wide open for extras. Despite have 0 interest in anymore physical action with her, I asked about it and she said, we can fly to Reno and fuck there where it's legal. She did sound serious but anyone who fucks for a living in Reno and does HJs in DC likely has a breaking point, so enjoy if you like that type.

[Backrub321]

Since I had TIME today, I dropped by one of my low-cost reliable spots in Woodbridge off of Old Bridge.

They occasionally get new talent in, but the manager (tall, good build, C's) always gives a solid massage and light tease before the flip. Didn't pursue anything beyond standard NoVa on this trip, and can't recall ever having anything here beyond the top coming off. . 6 to the house, . 4 tip for a full hour session and a big bottle of water (surprise!) which hadn't been in the fridge yet.

Left relaxed and happy.

[JmSuttr]

https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...a/8954693.html

Saw their recent ad and decided to check it out. Fake pics but both are cute. Lisa is GND cute while Annie is more of the bustier and sexier variety. Both are from Laos, not Thailand, as is the woman who answers the phone and schedules appts.

Unfortunately, that's where the good news ends. The starting price of 160 doesn't include any significant extras and upsell was the name of the game. And the massage was pretty much non-existent. I made the comment that the going rate for most of their (Thai) competition was 120 but all I got was a blank stare.

Maybe they'll make a go of it by attracting mongers who are always searching for "the next new thing" and who don't read this forum. But the value proposition just isn't there, IMHO, and there are several Thai masseuses who are just as attractive and provide much better service.

[JmSuttr]

I guess they say we are all different. My experience was 180 from Frank's review.

My perspective is from 10 plus years of enjoying this hobby and lots of experience at AMPs, and places like ST & EM,them and some independents, including KK and Joyce.

Generally I have lots of relaxed fun, great connections and am generous even if it is not up to par.

Botton Line, Vandara was at the bottom of the whole heap and not worth the money and a waste of valuable mongering time.

Ratings: (1 - 5).

Looks. = 1. Yes older but that can be good sometimes. She is flabby and really does not care to take care of herself. Strange in her business. . And she does not care about her clients.

Attitude and connection = 1. Poor and none.

Flexibility and desire to please = 1.

Communications = 1. Poor for someone in US for many years.

Location and facility. = 5. Very convenient and private.

Totally disappointed. Originally wanted 1. 5 hours since report was so good. She said only 1 hour, other appointments. Said 120 I said 150 because I want nice time. No warmth, no real smiles, no connection or eye contact. ((As I said before this is unusual for me and 90% of time a good connection and mutual fun evolves. They usually like me, " your funny" etc. . So I don't think it was me.

Pissed I wasted my time. Generally recommendations from the forum have worked out fantastically and that is what I was expecting. She did not even want to do HE, so, as not to be in pain the rest of the day, I had to take matters in my own hand. She did display tits after some verbal pushing and with matters in my own hand and they were ok but lots of loose flab below.

So be it, . Just a warning of what to expect. Did see some old reviews the were about as 3. She used to be with KK years ago and I can see why she is no longer there. I can't imagine how she gets repeat business when there is so much GOOD in N. VA.

Enough. Sorry,

DC002

While YMMV is always a consideration, it's also true that some providers are consistently good, others consistently poor, and still others for whom the quality of the session varies (sometimes a little, sometimes a lot).

Providers are human beings and can have a bad day or be under stress from personal issues or dealing with bad clients, etc. But the good providers seem to have an ability to compartmentalize and, if their service varies at all, it's still usually somewhere between above average to excellent. They rarely allow negativity to creep into the session and, if something is really bothering them, they will often admit the problem, offer an apology, and perhaps even a full or partial refund.

Inconsistent providers, OTOH, bring the negativity right into the session. Sometimes they're clueless that they're doing it and other times they're aware but just don't care. I haven't experienced that with Vandara but it doesn't surprise me if that's the case. I like her massage but there were a few sessions in which I didn't receive the full time for the session. For that reason alone I haven't repeated for a while, although her 90 min specials for $120 are sometimes tempting.

I guess the best we can do is to post in the forum about our experiences and try to look for providers with a reputation for being consistently good. If there's good personal chemistry, that's obviously a plus. But I've had poor sessions from providers with whom I thought I had great chemistry and with whom I'd had mind-blowing sessions. So I guess the bottom-line is that provider personality trumps all.

[Kurt Honn]

1. Private Viewing: You're new / in denial to the hobby, you'll get a hot chick but you're limited to self service.

That is commonly called "private viewing" in some places. But any reader of this forum should be aware that at any of frequently discussed NoVA "private viewing" locations (read the forum or DM for the three web sites), this is definitely not the case. In fact, the minimum level of service one can expect at these places is what is called NoVa finish in this forum and will not infrequently include more for additional consideration.

Just trying to avoid confusion, but this is a matter on which I'm pretty confident.

[PilotAviator]

After two months of being closed for refurbishing, Eastern Spa (aka "A" Spa -- because that is what the sign on the door says) reopened this week.

https://easternspa.business.site/

FWIW, the refurbishing is still in progress (albeit no construction dust or construction smells -- but walls and other items are definitely still in progress.

I did not notice any actual difference (other than the unfinished walls).

The Massage Technician (who is also the manager) is the same -- still nice -- still provides a very good massage experience.

No TS -- but one Jackson lower than most places for an hour -- and I have never been shorted on time.

A high-value, low-stress environment. Standard tips and everyone leaves happy.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

[Serpico99]

These ladies here do not change towels or sheets or anything really. When I was here recently, Mia just straightened out what was already on the table instead of changing it. This place should be avoided because I don't think we should be exposed to any types of bacterial infection. When I called her out on it and she said she will change it after I leave but most other places will take off the sheets as I am dressing back up. Avoid this place unless you don't mind being exposed to each others fluids for nothing more than a NOVA. And report other places like this so others know to avoid it and teach these dirty AMPs a lesson.

I have witnessed this at mostly Chinese AMPs. I have seen specifically this happen at the Chinese AMP you mentioned as well as a few of the other Chinese AMPs in Manassas, as well as other Chinese AMPs I have visited in Falls Church, Annandale, and near Dulles. One Chinese AMP that I have seen change the sheets is Nikki's place, Massage Dragon, just down the street from the place you mentioned above.

I think Chinese AMPs overall try to do things on the cheap to try to milk a dollar out of a penny.

[Frank Digitola]

My experience is similar to DC002. Not impressed and was surprised by so many raving reviews. I saw her off of gallows rd, while convenient, depending on the time can get pretty backed up.

I guess they say we are all different. My experience was 180 from Frank's review.

That's tough brahs. Sorry your visits weren't enjoyable. As Hornet Brah said below, ones tour of Independent, Thailand, USA is absolutely a YMMV affair. In my experience, it's what separates that world from the other options under the massage umbrella. Chinese spots you're at least going to get a massage, nova'd, and you'll see some teddies if you bump up the tip. Korean spots you're at least going to get a table shower, massage, nova'd and you'll see some teddies if you bump up the tip. Thai independent visits are a box of chocolates.

I've had flip experiences with some Thai independents that have come remarkably close to FS. I've also received random hangout experiences that I'd never share here either. I'm not trying to be a douche. However if a Thai independent asks me after my session "Hey, do you have plans? I don't have any more appointments and I want to watch a few episodes of Friends. Will you watch with me and hold me?" that's a serious YMMV situation that everyone won't get. It's also one that would definitely end if publicized. And I'm not tipping them crazy either. I've never given a Thai Indy more than. 4 ever.

That being said I've also seen independents who reputable brahs have reported on and said they've gotten way more than the regular nova I did. The game itself can be a YMMV roll of the dice, but this is the ever present reality of the Thai independent experience. Chemistry with the providers is essential and can make or break a visit.

Frankie.

[RobIvan]

My experience is similar to DC002. Not impressed and was surprised by so many raving reviews. I saw her off of gallows rd, while convenient, depending on the time can get pretty backed up.

I guess they say we are all different. My experience was 180 from Frank's review.

My perspective is from 10 plus years of enjoying this hobby and lots of experience at AMPs, and places like ST & EM,them and some independents, including KK and Joyce.

Generally I have lots of relaxed fun, great connections and am generous even if it is not up to par.

Botton Line, Vandara was at the bottom of the whole heap and not worth the money and a waste of valuable mongering time.

Ratings: (1 - 5).

Looks. = 1. Yes older but that can be good sometimes. She is flabby and really does not care to take care of herself. Strange in her business. . And she does not care about her clients.

Attitude and connection = 1. Poor and none.

Flexibility and desire to please = 1.

Communications = 1. Poor for someone in US for many years.

Location and facility. = 5. Very convenient and private.

Totally disappointed. Originally wanted 1. 5 hours since report was so good. She said only 1 hour, other appointments. Said 120 I said 150 because I want nice time. No warmth, no real smiles, no connection or eye contact. ((As I said before this is unusual for me and 90% of time a good connection and mutual fun evolves. They usually like me, " your funny" etc. . So I don't think it was me.

Pissed I wasted my time. Generally recommendations from the forum have worked out fantastically and that is what I was expecting. She did not even want to do HE, so, as not to be in pain the rest of the day, I had to take matters in my own hand. She did display tits after some verbal pushing and with matters in my own hand and they were ok but lots of loose flab below.

So be it, . Just a warning of what to expect. Did see some old reviews the were about as 3. She used to be with KK years ago and I can see why she is no longer there. I can't imagine how she gets repeat business when there is so much GOOD in N. VA.

Enough. Sorry,

DC002