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  1. #13302
    Quote Originally Posted by Start2  [View Original Post]
    1. Private Viewing: You're new / in denial to the hobby, you'll get a hot chick but you're limited to self service.
    That is commonly called "private viewing" in some places. But any reader of this forum should be aware that at any of frequently discussed NoVA "private viewing" locations (read the forum or DM for the three web sites), this is definitely not the case. In fact, the minimum level of service one can expect at these places is what is called NoVa finish in this forum and will not infrequently include more for additional consideration.

    Just trying to avoid confusion, but this is a matter on which I'm pretty confident.

  2. #13301

    3rd Floor RRWS

    After two months of being closed for refurbishing, Eastern Spa (aka "A" Spa -- because that is what the sign on the door says) reopened this week.

    https://easternspa.business.site/

    FWIW, the refurbishing is still in progress (albeit no construction dust or construction smells -- but walls and other items are definitely still in progress.

    I did not notice any actual difference (other than the unfinished walls).

    The Massage Technician (who is also the manager) is the same -- still nice -- still provides a very good massage experience.

    No TS -- but one Jackson lower than most places for an hour -- and I have never been shorted on time.

    A high-value, low-stress environment. Standard tips and everyone leaves happy.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

  3. #13300
    Quote Originally Posted by Latinalova  [View Original Post]
    These ladies here do not change towels or sheets or anything really. When I was here recently, Mia just straightened out what was already on the table instead of changing it. This place should be avoided because I don't think we should be exposed to any types of bacterial infection. When I called her out on it and she said she will change it after I leave but most other places will take off the sheets as I am dressing back up. Avoid this place unless you don't mind being exposed to each others fluids for nothing more than a NOVA. And report other places like this so others know to avoid it and teach these dirty AMPs a lesson.
    I have witnessed this at mostly Chinese AMPs. I have seen specifically this happen at the Chinese AMP you mentioned as well as a few of the other Chinese AMPs in Manassas, as well as other Chinese AMPs I have visited in Falls Church, Annandale, and near Dulles. One Chinese AMP that I have seen change the sheets is Nikki's place, Massage Dragon, just down the street from the place you mentioned above.

    I think Chinese AMPs overall try to do things on the cheap to try to milk a dollar out of a penny.

  4. #13299

    Ymmv

    Quote Originally Posted by RobIvan  [View Original Post]
    My experience is similar to DC002. Not impressed and was surprised by so many raving reviews. I saw her off of gallows rd, while convenient, depending on the time can get pretty backed up.
    Quote Originally Posted by DC002  [View Original Post]
    I guess they say we are all different. My experience was 180 from Frank's review.
    That's tough brahs. Sorry your visits weren't enjoyable. As Hornet Brah said below, ones tour of Independent, Thailand, USA is absolutely a YMMV affair. In my experience, it's what separates that world from the other options under the massage umbrella. Chinese spots you're at least going to get a massage, nova'd, and you'll see some teddies if you bump up the tip. Korean spots you're at least going to get a table shower, massage, nova'd and you'll see some teddies if you bump up the tip. Thai independent visits are a box of chocolates.

    I've had flip experiences with some Thai independents that have come remarkably close to FS. I've also received random hangout experiences that I'd never share here either. I'm not trying to be a douche. However if a Thai independent asks me after my session "Hey, do you have plans? I don't have any more appointments and I want to watch a few episodes of Friends. Will you watch with me and hold me?" that's a serious YMMV situation that everyone won't get. It's also one that would definitely end if publicized. And I'm not tipping them crazy either. I've never given a Thai Indy more than. 4 ever.

    That being said I've also seen independents who reputable brahs have reported on and said they've gotten way more than the regular nova I did. The game itself can be a YMMV roll of the dice, but this is the ever present reality of the Thai independent experience. Chemistry with the providers is essential and can make or break a visit.

    Frankie.

  5. #13298
    My experience is similar to DC002. Not impressed and was surprised by so many raving reviews. I saw her off of gallows rd, while convenient, depending on the time can get pretty backed up.

    Quote Originally Posted by DC002  [View Original Post]
    I guess they say we are all different. My experience was 180 from Frank's review.

    My perspective is from 10 plus years of enjoying this hobby and lots of experience at AMPs, and places like ST & EM,them and some independents, including KK and Joyce.

    Generally I have lots of relaxed fun, great connections and am generous even if it is not up to par.

    Botton Line, Vandara was at the bottom of the whole heap and not worth the money and a waste of valuable mongering time.

    Ratings: (1 - 5).

    Looks. = 1. Yes older but that can be good sometimes. She is flabby and really does not care to take care of herself. Strange in her business. . And she does not care about her clients.

    Attitude and connection = 1. Poor and none.

    Flexibility and desire to please = 1.

    Communications = 1. Poor for someone in US for many years.

    Location and facility. = 5. Very convenient and private.

    Totally disappointed. Originally wanted 1. 5 hours since report was so good. She said only 1 hour, other appointments. Said 120 I said 150 because I want nice time. No warmth, no real smiles, no connection or eye contact. ((As I said before this is unusual for me and 90% of time a good connection and mutual fun evolves. They usually like me, " your funny" etc. . So I don't think it was me.

    Pissed I wasted my time. Generally recommendations from the forum have worked out fantastically and that is what I was expecting. She did not even want to do HE, so, as not to be in pain the rest of the day, I had to take matters in my own hand. She did display tits after some verbal pushing and with matters in my own hand and they were ok but lots of loose flab below.

    So be it, . Just a warning of what to expect. Did see some old reviews the were about as 3. She used to be with KK years ago and I can see why she is no longer there. I can't imagine how she gets repeat business when there is so much GOOD in N. VA.

    Enough. Sorry,

    DC002

  6. #13297
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    Vandara. BAD experience

    I guess they say we are all different. My experience was 180 from Frank's review.

    My perspective is from 10 plus years of enjoying this hobby and lots of experience at AMPs, and places like ST & EM,them and some independents, including KK and Joyce.

    Generally I have lots of relaxed fun, great connections and am generous even if it is not up to par.

    Botton Line, Vandara was at the bottom of the whole heap and not worth the money and a waste of valuable mongering time.

    Ratings: (1 - 5).

    Looks. = 1. Yes older but that can be good sometimes. She is flabby and really does not care to take care of herself. Strange in her business. . And she does not care about her clients.

    Attitude and connection = 1. Poor and none.

    Flexibility and desire to please = 1.

    Communications = 1. Poor for someone in US for many years.

    Location and facility. = 5. Very convenient and private.

    Totally disappointed. Originally wanted 1. 5 hours since report was so good. She said only 1 hour, other appointments. Said 120 I said 150 because I want nice time. No warmth, no real smiles, no connection or eye contact. ((As I said before this is unusual for me and 90% of time a good connection and mutual fun evolves. They usually like me, " your funny" etc. . So I don't think it was me.

    Pissed I wasted my time. Generally recommendations from the forum have worked out fantastically and that is what I was expecting. She did not even want to do HE, so, as not to be in pain the rest of the day, I had to take matters in my own hand. She did display tits after some verbal pushing and with matters in my own hand and they were ok but lots of loose flab below.

    So be it, . Just a warning of what to expect. Did see some old reviews the were about as 3. She used to be with KK years ago and I can see why she is no longer there. I can't imagine how she gets repeat business when there is so much GOOD in N. VA.

    Enough. Sorry,

    DC002

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDigitola  [View Original Post]
    My adventures through the Voluptuous, Thailand province of Northern Virginia has continued. This checkpoint, Vandara. I'm not going to lie, I was skeptical about this leg of the trip. Some brahs here have said some not so positive things, but I've received PM's showing she's also among some Senior Members favorites. Mixed bag reviews excite me. Will I be one of the fortunate ones who finds an addition to the rotation? Or will I find myself amongst the brahs who right in the heat of things found themselves at a fookin Sotheby's auction trying to procure "Lot 492 Hand Relief". I'll Tarantino it. I was among the prior.

    When I saw on BP that Vandara had returned from the motherland I texted to set up an appointment. I wanted to take precautions to ensure my appointment went swimmingly. 1) I made it a point to mention that KK told me that I should try and see her (which she did), and that I had been eager to see her ever since. Wanted to establish being more than a random. And 2) I usually give the Thai independents their tip right away. I was definitely going to do that this time to dodge any haggling I'd run into that might sour the mood. I gave her the Thai independent rate + 3 right from the get go.

    We meet up at her spot and I walk in the door. Now in previous reports I've seen comments about her age and look. While I understand that one of the most valuable features a woman possesses is her youthful glow, and I admit that Vandara's has faded, she is a 50 something year old chick. That being said, she's a cute girl, doesn't look bad at all for her age, and let's face it, the glow reaper is a cruel and exacting bish. The reaper collects from most chicks by 32. But Vandara, not only is she cute but she's also tall, moderately thick and pleasant. We go to her studio setup, I showered and strapped in for the ride.

    She starts the appointment by announcing that we'll begin with Thai stretches. She's strong as an ox and the stretching felt wonderful. She asks if I have any areas I'd like her to focus on and my strength preference. I tell her strong and that my lower back is thrashed. She then proceeds to give me a goddamn magnificent deep tissue massage. She is excellent. I reported that the Mamasan from CC gave me the best massage I've ever had. Vandara's was pretty damn close. I'm still trying to decide who number one is. Tia has the edge so far because I wasn't rendered vegetative with Vandara, but it's damn close.

    She grinds out knots leaving my back feeling totally reinvigorated. My traps and neck were thrashed too but not as bad as my lower back. When she hit those I groaned like an old seal. She asked if I was okay. I told her that I loved her. She laughed. I now know that the feeling is mutual. The deep tissue continued on my legs and some delightful teasing occurred. She finished my legs after kneading them tremendously and then massaged datass, lingering and teasing all over. The tease to the bozack escalated and turned into full blown cupping and tender squeezes. She then did a bit of reach around and flipped me after hot towling me down.

    When I'm flipped I glanced over and noticed the clock which revealed I had about 25 minutes left in my session. I'm starting to wonder if I'm about to get finessed out of my full hour. I was not. Vandara gave me a proper frontal massage. She stretched me from the front, massaged my head, arms and legs. She then directed her attention to junior.

    Her nova style was slow and smooth and felt really good. She wore a loose fitting t-shirt and some gym shorts for our session. When I first arrived I saw what I deduced were fairly plump teddies being hidden under this shirt. I ask to see them. She smiles and declines. I approach this situation from a number of different ways. More often than not, I go with comedy and that's especially if I've been making the provider laugh throughout the session. I ask her "So I won't be able to see your teddies today?" She smiles and shakes her head no. I say "Well, that's the saddest thing I've heard all day. " and pout just enough as to not look like a fooking beta simpleton. Vandara laughs, and lets the teddies out. I'm now certain she wants to be Mrs. Digitola.

    Those teddies. Brahs, those teddies. Like, why didn't you brahs tell me about these teddies? I had one of the brahs tell me she had nice C's. He must not have seen her recently. Those teddies are wonderful and DDD. While the glow reaper has collected her due from Vandara, those teddies are some of the best in the game I've seen. They're wonderful. They're big, round and are really firm for a girl in her 50's. Only Kiko and Tara have better teddies. Anyhow, after those fabulous cans came out I roamed all over and popped with the fury of a jungle animal. I shower, hug, she asked me to come back and see her and I bounced. I'm definitely going back. That's especially if I see her run one of these 90 minutes for the 60 minute fee deals the brahs have mentioned. Vandara was an angel. She's magnificent. I can't wait to see her again.

    Frankie.

  7. #13296
    Quote Originally Posted by Latinalova  [View Original Post]
    These ladies here do not change towels or sheets or anything really. When I was here recently, Mia just straightened out what was already on the table instead of changing it. This place should be avoided because I don't think we should be exposed to any types of bacterial infection. When I called her out on it and she said she will change it after I leave but most other places will take off the sheets as I am dressing back up. Avoid this place unless you don't mind being exposed to each others fluids for nothing more than a NOVA. And report other places like this so others know to avoid it and teach these dirty AMPs a lesson.
    Hmmm, not doubting you, but pretty sure I've seen her and others there change the sheet while I was dressing. If I return, I will certainly watch for that. Thanks for the warning.

  8. #13295

    Sasi (Sassy) in McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySalami  [View Original Post]
    Well, it's a Longshot and I'm guessing I also know the answer.

    Anyone have any Intel on this one? Is her pic real? More importantly, is there anything to be had here?

    https://www.massageanywhere.com/profile/-Sasi3042
    I saw her about a year ago. As you see from her picture, she is older. Attractive and nice abd very good massage. But she ploutely declined to offer any extra service. Have not not been back, because I enjoy a good finish.

  9. #13294

    Jen. Decent

    Quote Originally Posted by Coaster42  [View Original Post]
    Almost word for word you described my experience with Jen. Massage was good and she was nice. I would not repeat though.
    I am in agreement with Ulrik, and Coaster42 on this one. I haven't posted in many years. I came back online here a year or two ago. I've been seeing Nalee for years, and most of you know what a talent she is.

    I texted Nalee, and asked to see Jen. Set up the appointment and drove her way. I was pleasantly surprised. She is a cute lady, with a spinner body. Judging from her petite frame, I had a feeling it was not going to be the hard massage that Nalee gives. It was a decent massage, but not what I would call a Thai massage. There was teasing, and OTC touching, but nothing memorable. I will probably stick with my go to girl Nalee. Any questions, please feel free to PM. B.

  10. #13293

    Blue Sky Manassas (hygene report)

    These ladies here do not change towels or sheets or anything really. When I was here recently, Mia just straightened out what was already on the table instead of changing it. This place should be avoided because I don't think we should be exposed to any types of bacterial infection. When I called her out on it and she said she will change it after I leave but most other places will take off the sheets as I am dressing back up. Avoid this place unless you don't mind being exposed to each others fluids for nothing more than a NOVA. And report other places like this so others know to avoid it and teach these dirty AMPs a lesson.

  11. #13292
    Quote Originally Posted by Geeker  [View Original Post]
    Nothing at Crystal and even regular message is not as good and constant upsell to more time, more massage types. Avoid this place.
    LOL thanks guess I will have to venture into falls church or Manassas. If anyone knows any good ones there can you pm me?

  12. #13291
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy9883  [View Original Post]
    Hey all does the crystal massage in elden offer FS, or New Sky Therapy?
    Nothing at Crystal and even regular message is not as good and constant upsell to more time, more massage types. Avoid this place.

  13. #13290
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion  [View Original Post]
    Called Eden today, I'm in town for a few weeks and wanted something different. Jessica was at their D. C. Spot. I ran a bit late due to parking difficulties. She was very gracious, didn't start time until I arrived. She's a super sweet blonde. Took care of the donation and I got changed and on the table. We made small talk until it was time to flip, then she finished me off. Donation was $. 20, tipped. 8. I would repeat. She's a doll.
    No need to tip in NOVA. $120 is the out the door price. Many have gotten more than HE for $120 total.

  14. #13289

    Crystal massage elden

    Hey all does the crystal massage in elden offer FS, or New Sky Therapy?

  15. #13288

    Jessica at Eden

    Called Eden today, I'm in town for a few weeks and wanted something different. Jessica was at their D. C. Spot. I ran a bit late due to parking difficulties. She was very gracious, didn't start time until I arrived. She's a super sweet blonde. Took care of the donation and I got changed and on the table. We made small talk until it was time to flip, then she finished me off. Donation was $. 20, tipped. 8. I would repeat. She's a doll.

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