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  1. #32930

    RubMaps

    RubMaps, are they closed again? This is the message I get. This site can't be reached.

  2. #32929
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbyMan51  [View Original Post]
    I've seen Amy. She's nice and nice looking but not smoking hot, imo. Sometimes the little brain and a darkened room blurs the reality of the situation.
    That's very true. I guess it also depends on what you've experienced before. When you play in the 50-60 yo fugly world, you run across the girls at mini they look pretty hot. If you play in the Kamp FS scene where action is a nice car payment then maybe they look meh. For me, nice attitude goes a long way.

  3. #32928
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    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbyMan51  [View Original Post]
    I've seen Amy. She's nice and nice looking but not smoking hot, imo. Sometimes the little brain and a darkened room blurs the reality of the situation.
    Amy is also 40 yo. Don't think most guys realize that.

  4. #32927
    Quote Originally Posted by Chisler  [View Original Post]
    Lisa is the one who replaced Mary. She has been there a couple of weeks since Mary left. She is older than Mary. Close to 50. Mary was 40 believe it or not. She has a spinner type body with nice fake tits. She worked at Lu and Asia in the past under the name Tina.
    Mary is gone? What a bummer. I take a 2 month absence from the hobby and boom.

  5. #32926
    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    Never heard of a Lisa at Mini. The ladies I know of are Wendy, Linda, Cici and Amy. The woman you got sounds exactly like Amy.
    I know, but she said Lisa, odd, I had seen the rest of them so not sure what was up with this one.

  6. #32925

    It's always in the eye of the beholder, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by SalesMan71  [View Original Post]
    That's too bad. I have grown to really like Mary and will miss her a lot. She's been my regular. Hope she's going to a good situation in China. I guess I'll have to try out Wendy. Amy is smokin hot but not quite as ambitious as Mary with the teasing.
    I've seen Amy. She's nice and nice looking but not smoking hot, imo. Sometimes the little brain and a darkened room blurs the reality of the situation.

  7. #32924

    Never heard of this place

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeehaw  [View Original Post]
    So I went by Lilla's in Woodstock. I drew Monica very attractive. Started off with a towel between the legs then she asked if I mind if she removed it. Obviously I said go ahead. She gave a good massage but that's it! I was totally undraped for the whole massage. No teasing nothing! Even on the flip nothing! She just rub my body. I tried a few to times move her hand towards Jr. LOL she replied only massage. Anyone had any luck here? I think it's relatively new.
    And I've never heard of Magic Hands that you mentioned in a previous post. Do you have addresses for these places?

  8. #32923
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeehaw  [View Original Post]
    So I went by Lilla's in Woodstock. I drew Monica very attractive. Started off with a towel between the legs then she asked if I mind if she removed it. Obviously I said go ahead. She gave a good massage but that's it! I was totally undraped for the whole massage. No teasing nothing! Even on the flip nothing! She just rub my body. I tried a few to times move her hand towards Jr. LOL she replied only massage. Anyone had any luck here? I think it's relatively new.
    So many guys just go hoping to get something and are willing to test it pay for the massage hoping for extras.

    I did this in the beginning also. Now I find out before the massage and just walk if it isn't what I want. Reading the board will lead you in the right direction. There are plenty of sure things out there. If it's somebody new I will find out up front first.

  9. #32922
    Quote Originally Posted by Chisler  [View Original Post]
    Lisa is the one who replaced Mary. She has been there a couple of weeks since Mary left. She is older than Mary. Close to 50. Mary was 40 believe it or not. She has a spinner type body with nice fake tits. She worked at Lu and Asia in the past under the name Tina.
    Mary could easy pass for about 30.

    Sorry to hear she is gone.

  10. #32921

    Bad news

    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    The tricks would have to be tried with Amy as I found out today that Mary has gone back to China for good; however, Wendy is back and I assume up to her old ways.
    That's too bad. I have grown to really like Mary and will miss her a lot. She's been my regular. Hope she's going to a good situation in China. I guess I'll have to try out Wendy. Amy is smokin hot but not quite as ambitious as Mary with the teasing.

  11. #32920
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias  [View Original Post]
    Here's the thing about AMPs (specifically KAMPs; I don't do the CAMPs): service is going to vary from girl to girl independent of expenditure. Really, with the K-girls, it comes down to their personality and some level of chemistry you have with them (I speak subjectively, but based on having fucked literally hundreds and hundreds of them.).

    So what you have to do is set an overall price you're willing to pay for room plus girl (I'd shoot for $220, $80 for the room and $140 for the girl), and then start prospecting.

    My protocol for KAMPs has always been this:

    1. Ask if there are multiple girls to choose from; if they demure, that's not your AMP. Sometimes they'll show you one girl, and if she looks good, of course you might want to go anyway, but ideally you want at least two girls to choose from. This is where experience comes in, but you want to choose a girl who is TRYING to appeal to you, like she doesn't look bored, she's smiling, and so on, and of course is physically attractive to you (for me, the skinnier and younger, the better).

    2. Turn on the charm. Joke with her during the table shower, etc. You want to see how far she warms up. You're prospecting, so it doesn't hurt to make some effort for THIS to be the girl, so you can be a regular. That saves time and money. In the room, just indicate you want everything (that's usually how I phrase it). If she has an orgasm (for some reason the K-girls resist this, so it may take some insistence) and she likes you, done. She'll do almost anything from that point. Congratulations, you've found a gem (until she rotates out of Georgia).

    3. Mostly, it will be a one-visit girl, but eventually you'll find one you want to see on occasion. Again, we're prospecting.

    4. Understand that whatever you pay this girl at the outset is what you pay her ongoing. The only way you're getting a discount is if she likes you enough to fuck you for FREE (I've had this as Gold Spa, but it's rare). So you're really looking at a binary pricing model of "full price" or "free".

    5. Tip: if you can get them to break a boundary, it goes a long way to expanding their service. I usually ask if there's something they don't do with customers, and then request they do it for me. Make it a funny challenge. It's usually kissing or BBBJ, but if you can get them to do THAT, it kind of opens the floodgates (and again, I'm asking about K-girls, not soulless C-girls). Of course, this is an manipulation tactic, so follow your own comfort level!

    So, here's how the economics of this break down. If you find about 1/3 of girls to be "keepers", then ten good fuck sessions is something like three prospecting sessions, and then seven sessions with your gem; if you're paying $220, then that's $2200, or on average $275/ session with your fuck goddess. The more you fuck her, the more the average price converges with your preferred fee.

    So it's worth establishing a lower fee *at the beginning*. I would probably try to negotiate with the *mamasan* on room fee, rather than with the provider on pussy access. If you can be a regular paying $60 for the room and $140 for the girl, that's a pretty good net fee. I wouldn't go higher than $240 ($80 room and $160 girl) in any case.

    O.
    Great advice. Thanks.

  12. #32919

    Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    Never heard of a Lisa at Mini. The ladies I know of are Wendy, Linda, Cici and Amy. The woman you got sounds exactly like Amy.
    Lisa is the one who replaced Mary. She has been there a couple of weeks since Mary left. She is older than Mary. Close to 50. Mary was 40 believe it or not. She has a spinner type body with nice fake tits. She worked at Lu and Asia in the past under the name Tina.

  13. #32918

    Lillas

    So I went by Lilla's in Woodstock. I drew Monica very attractive. Started off with a towel between the legs then she asked if I mind if she removed it. Obviously I said go ahead. She gave a good massage but that's it! I was totally undraped for the whole massage. No teasing nothing! Even on the flip nothing! She just rub my body. I tried a few to times move her hand towards Jr. LOL she replied only massage. Anyone had any luck here? I think it's relatively new.

  14. #32917
    Quote Originally Posted by Dgcesq  [View Original Post]
    So I'm a guy who typically does 1, maybe 2 a year through p411. AMPsare new to me, so I am respectfully seeking advice.

    I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick.

    In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.
    Here's the thing about AMPs (specifically KAMPs; I don't do the CAMPs): service is going to vary from girl to girl independent of expenditure. Really, with the K-girls, it comes down to their personality and some level of chemistry you have with them (I speak subjectively, but based on having fucked literally hundreds and hundreds of them.).

    So what you have to do is set an overall price you're willing to pay for room plus girl (I'd shoot for $220, $80 for the room and $140 for the girl), and then start prospecting.

    My protocol for KAMPs has always been this:

    1. Ask if there are multiple girls to choose from; if they demure, that's not your AMP. Sometimes they'll show you one girl, and if she looks good, of course you might want to go anyway, but ideally you want at least two girls to choose from. This is where experience comes in, but you want to choose a girl who is TRYING to appeal to you, like she doesn't look bored, she's smiling, and so on, and of course is physically attractive to you (for me, the skinnier and younger, the better).

    2. Turn on the charm. Joke with her during the table shower, etc. You want to see how far she warms up. You're prospecting, so it doesn't hurt to make some effort for THIS to be the girl, so you can be a regular. That saves time and money. In the room, just indicate you want everything (that's usually how I phrase it). If she has an orgasm (for some reason the K-girls resist this, so it may take some insistence) and she likes you, done. She'll do almost anything from that point. Congratulations, you've found a gem (until she rotates out of Georgia).

    3. Mostly, it will be a one-visit girl, but eventually you'll find one you want to see on occasion. Again, we're prospecting.

    4. Understand that whatever you pay this girl at the outset is what you pay her ongoing. The only way you're getting a discount is if she likes you enough to fuck you for FREE (I've had this as Gold Spa, but it's rare). So you're really looking at a binary pricing model of "full price" or "free".

    5. Tip: if you can get them to break a boundary, it goes a long way to expanding their service. I usually ask if there's something they don't do with customers, and then request they do it for me. Make it a funny challenge. It's usually kissing or BBBJ, but if you can get them to do THAT, it kind of opens the floodgates (and again, I'm asking about K-girls, not soulless C-girls). Of course, this is an manipulation tactic, so follow your own comfort level!

    So, here's how the economics of this break down. If you find about 1/3 of girls to be "keepers", then ten good fuck sessions is something like three prospecting sessions, and then seven sessions with your gem; if you're paying $220, then that's $2200, or on average $275/ session with your fuck goddess. The more you fuck her, the more the average price converges with your preferred fee.

    So it's worth establishing a lower fee *at the beginning*. I would probably try to negotiate with the *mamasan* on room fee, rather than with the provider on pussy access. If you can be a regular paying $60 for the room and $140 for the girl, that's a pretty good net fee. I wouldn't go higher than $240 ($80 room and $160 girl) in any case.

    O.

  15. #32916
    Quote Originally Posted by Dgcesq  [View Original Post]
    So I'm a guy who typically does 1, maybe 2 a year through p411. AMPsare new to me, so I am respectfully seeking advice.

    I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick.

    In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.
    They'll always negotiate, I've haggled at Gold spa (premiere gold diggers) for the normal going rate of $140, but it was for 15 minutes and I knew it would be rushed, so I still walked.

    The girls know the rate is 120 to 140. Give them more than that and they may give better service or they may not.

    Myself and others like to tip more. The girls are usually more pleasant and service is generally better, but the girls may feel pressure (as they should) to do a better job.

    In California, CAMP girls take 100 FS tip out the door every time. KAMP girls, usually a little more.

    Alternatively, if the girls don't take the money upfront, you could be a dick and give 100 (or nothing) and just walk. It happens and there's nothing the girls can do. Don't expect to go back, though.

    In the end, 70 and 150 isn't unreasonable and I'd pay it if the girl was nice. 220 out the door is what I expect (one hour at 80 and 140 FS), but again to each his own.

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