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  1. #3917

    Reyna aka sexy latina - 28 yr old

    Thanks for the review.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosty  [View Original Post]
    First time poster, new to the hobby. Any tips or advice are appreciated.

    Dreamed of her this morning, $. 6 for about an hour. $. 3 HH.

    Pros: She was who she said she was, good communication, decently safe incall, not the cleanest but not disgusting either. Standards are subjective though.

    Cons: Overpriced, not the greatest looking, more beat up than her photos let on, possible drug use. Also walked by a roommate that looked tweeked out and I'm pretty sure never blinked.

    Wasn't going to negotiate on the price, just didn't have the energy. Started with a phenomenal BBBJ, then covered up and did CG then switched to RCG. Switched to missionary and ended in doggy.

    Overall, not going to repeat, but could be a good 2nd or 3rd fall back call.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...s/140990925115
    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    That's Lilliana's cousin. I saw her for 40 (BJ) as a UTR before she hooked up with Lilliana and her DD. Looks like the price tripled. RealTree40 has reviewed both of them too.
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  2. #3916

    ValleyGirl / Lilly.

    I saw her several times last year, she was going by Elizabeth then.

    Great provider, any thing I wanted was on the menu.

    I can't see $3 for an hour when last years rates were so much better!

  3. #3915

    Dick move

    While it was a dick move to make that smear post, it serves as a beacon to me. A beacon to stay far away from that drama.

    Quote Originally Posted by BackToTheWall  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of what happened or the situation, whoever posted this is in the wrong. Taylor may have stubbed her toe once or twice, but this is uncalled for.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/616-21...u-can/17388428

  4. #3914

    VG rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverines  [View Original Post]
    So I have never seen Valley Girl but I have heard good things about her services. But I am curious about her looks. At 200 hh /300 hr I would think she would have to be a smokin hottie. I was able to find 3 pictures linked to her Ads and I attached them to this post. Is that her in those pictures? Also, the Ad shows the name Lilly, not Valley Girl. I assume this is her current hobby name?
    That may have been the duo rate with her new partner?

  5. #3913

    Wow! Ginger!

    I'd be into paying the extra! Wow.

  6. #3912
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverines  [View Original Post]
    So I have never seen Valley Girl but I have heard good things about her services. But I am curious about her looks. At 200 hh /300 hr I would think she would have to be a smokin hottie. I was able to find 3 pictures linked to her Ads and I attached them to this post. Is that her in those pictures? Also, the Ad shows the name Lilly, not Valley Girl. I assume this is her current hobby name?
    Yes that is her. Like I said, a really good provider but now out of reach. For $50 more an hour than what she and others are asking you could go top shelf and see some eros girls like Ginger.

    http://gingerleigh.net

  7. #3911

    Valley Girl / Lilly

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverines  [View Original Post]
    So I have never seen Valley Girl but I have heard good things about her services. But I am curious about her looks. At 200 hh /300 hr I would think she would have to be a smokin hottie. I was able to find 3 pictures linked to her Ads and I attached them to this post. Is that her in those pictures? Also, the Ad shows the name Lilly, not Valley Girl. I assume this is her current hobby name?
    Yes. Lilly fka Valley Girl.

    I have not seen her for quite a while, but she is memorable. My first squirter.

  8. #3910

    Valley Girl aka Lilly(?) - 35 yr old

    So I have never seen Valley Girl but I have heard good things about her services. But I am curious about her looks. At 200 hh /300 hr I would think she would have to be a smokin hottie. I was able to find 3 pictures linked to her Ads and I attached them to this post. Is that her in those pictures? Also, the Ad shows the name Lilly, not Valley Girl. I assume this is her current hobby name?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChipCharger  [View Original Post]
    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/let-m...ekend-19101767

    Right on! Here is a good example. Valley Girl is a great service provider but at these rates she is out of reach to me. That's a shame. I liked to see her once in a while but not now. Pretty much doubled from what it was not too long ago.

    I can't remember who it was that posted Hailey was pressuring her to increase her rate. If there is any truth to that, shame on her and let's boycott her and Serenity (which she owns). Booo! Hiss!

    Maybe we should start a thread of providers in the good range?
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  9. #3909

    Donations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Bottum gets it, while most mongers are scratching their heads and their balls wondering WTF?

    Bottum and Myself hobby on weekdays. Tuesday and Wednesdays for me. They'll quote you the highest rate possible, learn to gently negotiate and try not to offend. For new contacts I text about 11 am on Tuesday, using a phone app on my hobby phone. Using the phone app allows me to negotiate to a number I know she will say No. I text a little later using my real hobby phone number with a better rate I know she'll say yes to because my phone app found out where the bottom is. I'm guessing I'm the only one texting her at 11 am on Tuesday and the hotel room has to be paid soon. She'll be willing to make a deal with me since the last text she got (from me also. LOL) was lower. This will never work Friday and Saturday, they have plenty of options and your negotiations will be ignored. You have to have game in this game. If not it'll cost you more than those that do. FYI most first time negotiations extend to the next weekday visits.

    You're out of luck, If you can only monger on Friday and Saturday. Then it's time to tell the wife, options are getting thin and she'll have to take it on the chin.
    Gentlemen,

    I couldn't agree more but as a retired union member I'm willing to go a few weeks without, just to prove a point. I honestly believe two weeks of no customers will tip the scales back in our favor, just think of what two weeks without pay does to honest hard working productive members of our society in any other profession, many people have to use credit cards just for food and gas. Now think for a moment what that will do to all the providers "we" as horndogs keep in business, especially the crappy ones. The no shows, fake pic, toothless, smelly ones that try to up s—l. They're handlers and DD "boyfriends" will show there true colors and ta-the like magic everything will go back to being happy happy. And let us not forget the ones that do handle business professionally and Mutually accommodating for both parties, and continue to reward them for their professionalism, well the others become homeless, dr—less, pim-less.

    Stay safe gentlemen.

  10. #3908
    Your link doesn't work but that is probably a good thing. No need to promote what that guy has to say. Probably a pimp, or one of her regulars who thought he had something special with her until he didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by BackToTheWall  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of what happened or the situation, whoever posted this is in the wrong. Taylor may have stubbed her toe once or twice, but this is uncalled for.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/616-21...u-can/17388428

  11. #3907

    Taylor

    Quote Originally Posted by BackToTheWall  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of what happened or the situation, whoever posted this is in the wrong. Taylor may have stubbed her toe once or twice, but this is uncalled for.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/616-21...u-can/17388428
    Your link is 404. I suspect this one on stg is what you're referring to.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...k/212292450675

    I saw a subsequent ad of hers indicating that she was leaving town soon so see her while you can.

  12. #3906
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4415

    Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Bottum  [View Original Post]
    I agree with LikeVariety, SP are asking for more this year, but we need to consider some ideas. First they can ask for whatever but most will bargain down especially during week days. Second there are just too many gullible mongers who will pay their big demand! Third, usually you get what you pay for! Thanks to this forum, and guys like Benz1, TeddBear, and PermaFrost post 3834, I've had excellent dreams. I demand a lot from my SP, so I'm willing to pay the "standard" $100/ hf hr rate for good service. Also I partially agree with ToykoDawson about early bookings not usually materializing. However my last two successful dreams with the Saginaw ladies & G T Nikki were booked the night before. I keep contacting them numerous times with facts like what we did before, their old phone numbers, or mutual friends from this forum; something they can relate to has helped me prebook. It's helpful when you prebook late at night when they can be reached. Of course I've been burned before with prebooking like everyone else! LOL.
    Bottum gets it, while most mongers are scratching their heads and their balls wondering WTF?

    Bottum and Myself hobby on weekdays. Tuesday and Wednesdays for me. They'll quote you the highest rate possible, learn to gently negotiate and try not to offend. For new contacts I text about 11 am on Tuesday, using a phone app on my hobby phone. Using the phone app allows me to negotiate to a number I know she will say No. I text a little later using my real hobby phone number with a better rate I know she'll say yes to because my phone app found out where the bottom is. I'm guessing I'm the only one texting her at 11 am on Tuesday and the hotel room has to be paid soon. She'll be willing to make a deal with me since the last text she got (from me also. LOL) was lower. This will never work Friday and Saturday, they have plenty of options and your negotiations will be ignored. You have to have game in this game. If not it'll cost you more than those that do. FYI most first time negotiations extend to the next weekday visits.

    You're out of luck, If you can only monger on Friday and Saturday. Then it's time to tell the wife, options are getting thin and she'll have to take it on the chin.

  13. #3905

    Rate hike, continued.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/let-m...ekend-19101767

    Right on! Here is a good example. Valley Girl is a great service provider but at these rates she is out of reach to me. That's a shame. I liked to see her once in a while but not now. Pretty much doubled from what it was not too long ago.

    I can't remember who it was that posted Hailey was pressuring her to increase her rate. If there is any truth to that, shame on her and let's boycott her and Serenity (which she owns). Booo! Hiss!

    Maybe we should start a thread of providers in the good range?

  14. #3904

    Rate hike, earlbookings

    Quote Originally Posted by LikeVariety  [View Original Post]
    I have noticed just about all providers lately have increased donations dramatically. I have a couple regulars I see that see me at a big discount. But lime my name says I like variety and always looking to try someone new. These providers asking significantly more than a year ago. Even girls I seen before but not regular asking me for more than before. Personally I won't give it to them. Most asking for 130 to 150 for hh. I used to do 80 hh all the time before for a new girl. They crazy? Maybe some mongers have so much the increase they ok with. But services are the same I not going to increase donation for same service. I recommend none of us do more than 80 hh or 150 hr for anyone. When they can't get the insane amount they want they will go back to before.
    I agree with LikeVariety, SP are asking for more this year, but we need to consider some ideas. First they can ask for whatever but most will bargain down especially during week days. Second there are just too many gullible mongers who will pay their big demand! Third, usually you get what you pay for! Thanks to this forum, and guys like Benz1, TeddBear, and PermaFrost post 3834, I've had excellent dreams. I demand a lot from my SP, so I'm willing to pay the "standard" $100/ hf hr rate for good service. Also I partially agree with ToykoDawson about early bookings not usually materializing. However my last two successful dreams with the Saginaw ladies & G T Nikki were booked the night before. I keep contacting them numerous times with facts like what we did before, their old phone numbers, or mutual friends from this forum; something they can relate to has helped me prebook. It's helpful when you prebook late at night when they can be reached. Of course I've been burned before with prebooking like everyone else! LOL.

  15. #3903
    Quote Originally Posted by LikeVariety  [View Original Post]
    I have noticed just about all providers lately have increased donations dramatically. I have a couple regulars I see that see me at a big discount. But lime my name says I like variety and always looking to try someone new. These providers asking significantly more than a year ago. Even girls I seen before but not regular asking me for more than before. Personally I won't give it to them. Most asking for 130 to 150 for hh. I used to do 80 hh all the time before for a new girl. They crazy? Maybe some mongers have so much the increase they ok with. But services are the same I not going to increase donation for same service. I recommend none of us do more than 80 hh or 150 hr for anyone. When they can't get the insane amount they want they will go back to before.
    The weekly rate debate. Silly and demand works in all business, including this one.

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