Non Pro's

[MyNickname]

Sammi2711,300 multi hour (half day) , does everything and does everything bare, she prefers not anal. Cip. As all ladies in my previous posts, you are allowed to finish anywhere.

https://www.seeking.com/member/fd071...e-6ade1a899bc0

[MyNickname]

Applejuice525, she does everything and everything bare. BBFS, cip but she is plan B. Allowance is 300 multi hour (half day).

https://www.seeking.com/member/57c7b...e-eec28a462f0f

Fixing wrong link from previous post.

ClassyAsh, she does everything and everything bare. BBFS, cip. Allowance is 300 multi hour (half day) or 500 sleepover.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2a952...5-c815258f2714

[MyNickname]

ClassyAsh, she does everything and everything bare. Allowance is as usual 300 multihour (half day) or 500 sleepover.

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inb...5-c815258f2714

[Randy Darwin]

She blocked you.

I can see her profile.

I was chatting with her for a bit and her account vanished on me. Not sure if she blocked me or deleted her account. Can anyone confirm?

[MyNickname]

Talked to her, she did not answer the BBFS question or any details. She wouldn't say anything other than she would let me know if she didn't want to do something once we were in the act.

Hi guys, did anyone have any experience with https://www.seeking.com/member/8e2b0...3-e8ef35d0f774 ?

Been chatting with her, but I'm not sure if she is serious.

[AK6571]

Hi guys, did anyone have any experience with https://www.seeking.com/member/8e2b0...3-e8ef35d0f774 ?

Been chatting with her, but I'm not sure if she is serious.

I was chatting with her for a bit and her account vanished on me. Not sure if she blocked me or deleted her account. Can anyone confirm?

[RandomV]

Hi guys, did anyone have any experience with https://www.seeking.com/member/8e2b0...3-e8ef35d0f774 ?

Been chatting with her, but I'm not sure if she is serious.

[RandomV]

I also only do covered, but I know that in the grand scheme of things, the risks are pretty small. Once I had my vasectomy, I only wore condoms with pros. Non-pros were never an issue. I would be surprised if I had less than 100 non-pros during my 30's and I can honestly say that the only time I caught something was from a woman in Honduras that was deeply religious and swore that she only had sex a couple of times. Even now, on the very, very rare occasion when a condom breaks I don't get the least bit concerned, if she's wearing condoms with most people she's fine. I do personally believe that if you're truly freaked out over the possibility of getting an STD, then you probably shouldn't be doing this hobby.

You are so right! Thanks for the advice. Not doing the hobby is not an option, but I will stick to non pros and be covered at all times.

[AK6571]

Sir, this is ALL great stuff. You should be on all the talk shows nationally. But can you give a couple examples of what you say for BBFS and CIP. I'm totally lacking here.

I am faced with the same challenge of figuring out a classy way to tell a woman that I want to fuck her bare and CIP / CIA. I am hard pressed to play a version of that scene in my head which comes of as classy.

[TheSunDevil]

1) do you take them out for dinner / drinks or just head to their place (like an escort)?

I see Non Pros therefore I meet them in a normal date for snack or dinner or beverage first with no commitment to anything else, no money given for it and no commitment other than to check out our chemistry, just like SA guidelines says.

If a lady says she can host then I decline to see her. To me that means she is in best case scenario a semi pro because of the term "host". If she says we could use her place after we develop trust then I am ok with it and I meet her.

2) are you up front with your intentions (BBFS, CIP) to set expectations?

Yes, I do. There are ways you can approach these subjects with class and clarity to set expectations. Some ladies decline to continue conversation, other say they will think about it, other decline, most of them say yes.

Having said that, a rare few change mind when you are naked and BBFS inside them and they say they don't want to do anal at which point I don't even talk about it, just go with the flow and don't do anal but then I don't see them again and when they ask me the reason I am not seeing them again I let them know they changed our agreement and I didn't like the new agreement they wanted.

3) does it take multiple dates with these girls or are you finding first time luck?

Same answer as answer to question #2. I do not see SA ladies that don't do everything and bare.

4) are you up to pass on my contact # to SA lady?

No, I see non pros and treat them as such. How do you guys think I would be able to tell her, hey, I know you are a lady but I am about to treat you like a ***** by giving you the contact of a complete unknown guy (even to me) because he wants to fuck you. Can you imagine all her questions like "and how the fuck does he know I exist if I am no longer in SA?" "how come you have his contact to hand over to me if you don't even know him?" etc.

You guys really have an escort market mentality when you think on going to SA but that shouldn't be the case. Yes, there are escorts in SA but I go there to get non pros because I am trying to get away from the crazy escort market of crazy high donations for 1 hr with super limited dos and mechanical / business attitudes. Believe it or not but I have had even better than porn actress sex and sweet loving sex with non pros from SA. No, I am not a hunk nor handsome to that point. It is all about how you approach them and how you treat them, your game. If you have game you are golden.

5) Did you guys discuss an allowance or is she a "pay per date" type of gal?

I do. I tell them what I want. About 70% of them agree they are also looking for allowance on date, that it makes sense. NOTE: when I do a search I filter out those who have a platonic tag.

6) Also, her place, your place, hotel?

Never get them to your place. Even though they are non pros, you never know if they will show up when you are busy with another baby at your place. Hotel is the most convenient way to start an arrangement. Her place only if she says we can use her place after we have developed trust.

You're the non pro guru. LOL.

You should hold a clinic, or at least charge for access to a FAQ.

[Toomgis]

2) are you up front with your intentions (BBFS, CIP) to set expectations?

Yes, I do. There are ways you can approach these subjects with class and clarity to set expectations.

Sir, this is ALL great stuff. You should be on all the talk shows nationally. But can you give a couple examples of what you say for BBFS and CIP. I'm totally lacking here.

[MyNickname]

1) do you take them out for dinner / drinks or just head to their place (like an escort)?

I see Non Pros therefore I meet them in a normal date for snack or dinner or beverage first with no commitment to anything else, no money given for it and no commitment other than to check out our chemistry, just like SA guidelines says.

If a lady says she can host then I decline to see her. To me that means she is in best case scenario a semi pro because of the term "host". If she says we could use her place after we develop trust then I am ok with it and I meet her.

2) are you up front with your intentions (BBFS, CIP) to set expectations?

Yes, I do. There are ways you can approach these subjects with class and clarity to set expectations. Some ladies decline to continue conversation, other say they will think about it, other decline, most of them say yes.

Having said that, a rare few change mind when you are naked and BBFS inside them and they say they don't want to do anal at which point I don't even talk about it, just go with the flow and don't do anal but then I don't see them again and when they ask me the reason I am not seeing them again I let them know they changed our agreement and I didn't like the new agreement they wanted.

3) does it take multiple dates with these girls or are you finding first time luck?

Same answer as answer to question #2. I do not see SA ladies that don't do everything and bare.

4) are you up to pass on my contact # to SA lady?

No, I see non pros and treat them as such. How do you guys think I would be able to tell her, hey, I know you are a lady but I am about to treat you like a ***** by giving you the contact of a complete unknown guy (even to me) because he wants to fuck you. Can you imagine all her questions like "and how the fuck does he know I exist if I am no longer in SA?" "how come you have his contact to hand over to me if you don't even know him?" etc.

You guys really have an escort market mentality when you think on going to SA but that shouldn't be the case. Yes, there are escorts in SA but I go there to get non pros because I am trying to get away from the crazy escort market of crazy high donations for 1 hr with super limited dos and mechanical / business attitudes. Believe it or not but I have had even better than porn actress sex and sweet loving sex with non pros from SA. No, I am not a hunk nor handsome to that point. It is all about how you approach them and how you treat them, your game. If you have game you are golden.

5) Did you guys discuss an allowance or is she a "pay per date" type of gal?

I do. I tell them what I want. About 70% of them agree they are also looking for allowance on date, that it makes sense. NOTE: when I do a search I filter out those who have a platonic tag.

6) Also, her place, your place, hotel?

Never get them to your place. Even though they are non pros, you never know if they will show up when you are busy with another baby at your place. Hotel is the most convenient way to start an arrangement. Her place only if she says we can use her place after we have developed trust.

300 multi hour (half day) 500 sleepover.

Evergreen trees, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a8205...3-8908026b9c54

Newbestfriends, BBFS, cip, no anal things, everything else goes and bare.

https://www.seeking.com/member/7b0e3...a-1201e9c8af46

Babyyyemm, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

My size hot red head, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare, her fantasies are gang bang and rape.

Alwaysradnotsad, BBFS, cip, everything except anal, everything bare.

Insightful_98 , BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Karinachka1 , BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Tallblondie1, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Your sexy sidekick, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Rye33, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

[MyNickname]

300 multi hour (half day) 500 sleepover.

Evergreen trees, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a8205...3-8908026b9c54

Newbestfriends, BBFS, cip, no anal things, everything else goes and bare.

https://www.seeking.com/member/7b0e3...a-1201e9c8af46

Babyyyemm, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

My size hot red head, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare, her fantasies are gang bang and rape.

Alwaysradnotsad, BBFS, cip, everything except anal, everything bare.

Insightful_98 , BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Karinachka1 , BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Tallblondie1, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Your sexy sidekick, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

Rye33, BBFS, cip, everything goes and bare.

[Michael1967]

No judgement whatsoever, wanted to ask just out of interest, are you guys not worried about STIs? I would love to do BB too but am paranoid about contacting something, so always prefer covered. Do you guys ask the provider to show a clean test report or something before going for BB? Any other precautions one can take? Or is it just that the probability of getting something is very very low?

I also only do covered, but I know that in the grand scheme of things, the risks are pretty small. Once I had my vasectomy, I only wore condoms with pros. Non-pros were never an issue. I would be surprised if I had less than 100 non-pros during my 30's and I can honestly say that the only time I caught something was from a woman in Honduras that was deeply religious and swore that she only had sex a couple of times. Even now, on the very, very rare occasion when a condom breaks I don't get the least bit concerned, if she's wearing condoms with most people she's fine. I do personally believe that if you're truly freaked out over the possibility of getting an STD, then you probably shouldn't be doing this hobby.

[DrtyHarry]

Anyone every seen her? Says she's an ex-dancer, now apparently doing private dances.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1b221...3-283d2a612f63

I met her once from another website (Ashley Madison, IIRC). Positives, she is a beautiful woman, well dressed (and undressed), a woman, not a girl. Pretty face and really pretty eyes. Is a non-pro and is playing for her purse and shoe habit. Yes, she was a dancer. Stripped when she got out of college. Still have a dancers body.

Negatives: no FS. She did give me a heck of a lap dance, and an BJ. Finished on her chest. I told her afterwards that I was looking for more. Specifically FS. I asked her again when I found her on SA. No, her boundaries have not changed. So I chose not to see her again.

Thanks for the intel. We texted back and forth from SA but she did not let me know clearly what allowance she wanted or what was on the table if we did meet. So I moved on. Seems like I may have missed out. Even though she does not provide FS, I think I would enjoy her company for a lap-dance + finish. Just wish she had communicated better, been upfront about what she was comfortable with and the allowance she would accept for that. I may have sprung for it, if the allowance was resonable. Mind you this would be an exception. I pretty much only look for FS with BB. So this would have been a one time thing.