Non Pro's

[Michael1967]

So last night I met up with the 18 YO that originally wanted $250 for a meet and greet. I told her what I usually paid for a ppm. We eventually decided on a short meeting 30-45 minutes including sex for $250. I picked her up near her house and took her to my location.

I'm 51 and the last time I had sex with someone that was 18 was when I was 18. She got in the car and two minutes into our conversation I was thinking to myself, "shit, she really is 18. " She wasn't like a worldly 18 YO, that lived on the streets and fucked men to survive. She was an 18 YO that graduated from high school a year ago and still lived at home with her mother. That got me fired up. I'm actually going to have sex with a 18 YO, non-pro! So we get to my location and.

It was exactly what it would be like to fuck an 18 YO non-pro. She's a sweet kid, hot as fuck, incredible ass, but couldn't suck a dick if her life depended on it, I thought she was going to pull my dick off with her hand job. Kissing was pathetic (I brushed my teeth and had Altoids before we met up, so I didn't have puppy breath). Didn't really know any positions besides missionary and doggy. Was stunned when I gave her oral. I got halfway in her and she tightened up and was holding her breath, I stayed still and when she relaxed I went all the way in and three seconds later she was on the other side of the room (I'm not big, but it was nice to be with someone inexperienced enough to act like I was). She kept telling me she wasn't nervous or scared, but she obviously wasn't relaxed and kept thinking that I was going to try to raw dog her (I'm a safety guy, but she said she's never has sex in her life without a condom). Probably the most frustrating part is that she would start getting into it and then when she got close to an orgasm, she'd freak out and start squirming and try to get away. We'd stop and have to start again at square one. In the end, I felt like I should have given her a cold compact for her crotch, a glass of warm milk and a blankie.

In the end, was it worth the $250 + 75 extra I gave her? Yes, but only because I had an extra few hundred lying around. Would I do it again? Probably not. Though, I might try again in a few weeks and see if it changes because we know each other. I guess the years of fucking pros and extremely slutty non-pros have jaded me. I like my women slutty and my sex dirty, she wasn't in the slightest bit slutty and the sex was pretty vanilla. I think I'm just going to stick with women in their late 20's early 30's. Please don't ask for her SA handle. If she was a pro, I'd give it out. She isn't and I get the impression she'd be mortified if she found out I gave it out or publicly discussed what we did. I've also been on this board long enough to know that some of you are complete assholes and would immediately send this posting to her if I gave out her SA ID.

[Dog228]

https://www.seeking.com/member/f6896...8-8d75803d5d8f

Anyone know her quotes? Thinking about taking the plunge on SA, but trying to get a few prospective before I become member.

[RockChalk]

https://www.seeking.com/member/37faf...5-daa149d369e0

Wants 500 - 600 ppm.

https://images.seeking.com/prod/phot...9ade4979ca.jpg

I think I remember seeing her dance around with Dieter on Sprockets from SNL. "Do you want to touch my monkey?”

500-600 per meet? GPS isn't strong enough for this one. GFPS is more like it. Maybe dudes will pay her that, but I just don't see it.

[TomTall69]

https://www.seeking.com/member/37faf...5-daa149d369e0

Wants 500 - 600 ppm.

[Dink9873]

She wanted an arrangement with only social companionship. She would bring her baby to it. She wanted money sent to her before meeting, she called it "tribute to your queen". Her attitude in profile and exchange of messages was of a "queen".

Obviously it was a no go.

Yeah, she told me the same shit. Then it came down to I can still suck your dick, and my kid is only a baby. She too young to realize what's going on. Yeah, no thanks.

[MyNickname]

She wanted an arrangement with only social companionship. She would bring her baby to it. She wanted money sent to her before meeting, she called it "tribute to your queen". Her attitude in profile and exchange of messages was of a "queen".

Obviously it was a no go.

[MrSalty]

Any users? Is it worthwhile? Better / worse than SA?

I've used it. They take it too literally and want a FS rate for simply meeting. It may be me though. The theme of the site gives them such a big out if they don't like something about you like your age, your car, your gender. Whatever, they can simply say "its just for the date". If the first date offer is low enough, it is worth it in my opinion to be simply to meet them over a dinner.

Another thing that strikes me wrong is that you have to pay the site more to unlock a conversation as the offer goes up. Just to check out if the $300 first date offer includes everything it'll cost a lot of credits. Where the $50 first date offers you can use few credits, even take the date and not be out much if the eventual main deal doesn't get closed.

[WFM33]

I'm getting a "Cloudflare Ddos" error on Firefox and MS Edge. No luck mobile iOS either.

[SeattleSilver1]

Any users? Is it worthwhile? Better / worse than SA?

I tried it for a bit and found it a total waste of time. Many of the girls clearly expect to get paid to accompany you to a nice restaurant to be wined and dined, and then never see you again. Others want a significant amount of money just for a coffee at Starbucks. Some even demand the money in advance of the first date. To respond to the other post about the site, my impression is that the money you agree to for the first date is just for the public first date, not for any private activity that might follow on. I invested about 200 and got nothing of value.

[Michael1967]

Any users? Is it worthwhile? Better / worse than SA?

I'm on it, but can't make the actual plunge. I had someone offer $150 for a date and her profile say that she likes to go to a local bar and then go to her place afterwards. I'm not sure if the $150 is to meet her at the bar. Or if the going to her place afterwards count also. I have several other offers for $200. But after running across my 18 YO on SA who wanted $250 for a meet & greet. I'm not willing to take the plunge and be disappointed.

[WFM33]

Any users? Is it worthwhile? Better / worse than SA?

[Millerlite1]

For you more experienced mongers, what are your thoughts on Secrets? I read about the place on Fetlife, and I had a half hour to kill yesterday and stopped in, just to see the vibe. I figured that any woman who went there would be the quintessential Non-Pro. There was a curvy woman in some skimpy dress behind the counter and a couple of dudes standing around. To get into the theaters, it was a $10 cover. I figured that I would not have time to close any deals in 30 minutes and chose not the spend the money. So for those of you who may have been there and have closed deals, what are your thoughts? Are there good looking (well, good enough to fuck) women there? Or is it mostly cross-dressers, and TVs and TSs? Don't have anything against them, just not my cup of tea. Is it worthwhile to go back sometime when I do have enough time to close a deal. ?

I have been a few times. Track it on fetlife.

If you are clean, shaven and hung, the parties are cool.

I have done a few gangbangs there but the women are usually small bbw's or over 50.

[Diver6390]

Anybody have any intel on this Daisy Duke wannabe?

https://www.seeking.com/member/4be07...d-38a4a6a760a9

[Diver6390]

For you more experienced mongers, what are your thoughts on Secrets? I read about the place on Fetlife, and I had a half hour to kill yesterday and stopped in, just to see the vibe. I figured that any woman who went there would be the quintessential Non-Pro. There was a curvy woman in some skimpy dress behind the counter and a couple of dudes standing around. To get into the theaters, it was a $10 cover. I figured that I would not have time to close any deals in 30 minutes and chose not the spend the money. So for those of you who may have been there and have closed deals, what are your thoughts? Are there good looking (well, good enough to fuck) women there? Or is it mostly cross-dressers, and TVs and TSs? Don't have anything against them, just not my cup of tea. Is it worthwhile to go back sometime when I do have enough time to close a deal. ?

[Twister100]

Well that makes sense. I only contact people who message me first or people that favorite me. I get a LARGE amount of escorts (mainly people that I eventually find on TNA) and wannabe escorts (strippers). I've only contacted a couple of dozen people directly and most of the time I don't get a response, so I quit doing it. Now, I see why I always seem to find escorts, strippers and then the occasional normal person, instead of the other way around.

Wow. 2 years on that site and I thought I was doing well, now I'm finding out that I'm doing something wrong.

I had very few successes with the ladies that contacted me. Most seemed to be scams or pros. Just a side note, I don't think you have to confine yourself to the 30+ crowd to be successful on SA. I primarily focused on the under 30 ladies and didn't have any problems hooking up but takes more work.