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  1. #7945

    Be careful was my point

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    I also spent the majority of the winter in southern Florida. I enjoyed a half dozen visits to various massage parlours in Ft. Myers and other areas of South Florida and not once was denied the service I was interested in nor had any issues as a first time customer. The AMPs in the area are quite liberal, up to and including FS in pretty much every one I went to. Cost was typically on par with around here up to the BJ level, I've never had the offer for FS around here so have no idea what the going rate is. In Florida it was around $200 all in including massage 1 hour (and always the FULL hour I recieved!) for FS, $120 - $150 for BJ and $80 for HJ and some mutual touch on top.
    Mr Blackfire is correct that there are many (nearly 100) AMP's in Naples / Fort Myers area. With that number you would expect more competitive pricing. Literally everyone has. 5/. 7 entry fee and same fun pricing Blackfire indicates. That indicates "cooperation" if not outright control from a few in charge. My previous point was always be aware of local conditions. If you were to read the current Fort Myers massage forum, the current chatter is about a recent Naples spa bust, reduced services at frequently reviewed spas, and mostly talk about independent providers. While I doubt local AMP's are as tightly controlled, my point still holds true. Pay attention to established monger reporting, local LE news and practice safe hobbying. Boybear.

  2. #7944
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBear  [View Original Post]
    I happened to be vacationing in South Florida when this whole AMP bust went down. What started as a Law Enforcement effort to bust sexual trafficking ended up embarrassing quite a few well known & respected andlocals (in addition to a bunch of average Joes). That apparently surprised the local LE and, as Wolverine points out, expect many lawsuits if charges aren't dropped. Interesting outcome that within a couple days, many AMP's began running "massage only" operations all around southern Florida. Some even closed for "cleaning". Majority of parlors in Naples / Fort Myers area (where I was) are "connected" to Miami coast operators. Locals down there call it the Chinese cartel. At least they knew to lay low for awhile. Most mongers, at least those chatting on the board, didn't realize they should as well. Boybear.
    I also spent the majority of the winter in southern Florida. I enjoyed a half dozen visits to various massage parlours in Ft. Myers and other areas of South Florida and not once was denied the service I was interested in nor had any issues as a first time customer. The AMPs in the area are quite liberal, up to and including FS in pretty much every one I went to. Cost was typically on par with around here up to the BJ level, I've never had the offer for FS around here so have no idea what the going rate is. In Florida it was around $200 all in including massage 1 hour (and always the FULL hour I recieved!) for FS, $120 - $150 for BJ and $80 for HJ and some mutual touch on top.

  3. #7943

    Lin

    Back in the day I was a regular seeing Lin and always enjoyed it despite her negative reviews. I lost her contact info and was curious if she is still working in the area? If anyone has any information it would be appreciated.

  4. #7942

    Private Office 28th / BC

    Visited this delightful lady last Thursday. Very discrete but unusual office in with other businesses, but not uncomfortable.

    Very enthusiastic. Excellent massage. S she is a CMT. Got almost naked for me, full roaming with FIV. Wet. Nice. Great chest! Great HE, $ all in very worthwhile. Repeat. Repeat.

  5. #7941

    Learning moment

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverines  [View Original Post]
    Been waiting for this. Get them John Doe!

    https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/15/day-s...-rights-video/
    I happened to be vacationing in South Florida when this whole AMP bust went down. What started as a Law Enforcement effort to bust sexual trafficking ended up embarrassing quite a few well known & respected locals (in addition to a bunch of average Joes). That apparently surprised the local LE and, as Wolverine points out, expect many lawsuits if charges aren't dropped. Interesting outcome that within a couple days, many AMP's began running "massage only" operations all around southern Florida. Some even closed for "cleaning". Majority of parlors in Naples / Fort Myers area (where I was) are "connected" to Miami coast operators. Locals down there call it the Chinese cartel. At least they knew to lay low for awhile. Most mongers, at least those chatting on the board, didn't realize they should as well. Boybear.

  6. #7940

    Orchids of Asia Customer Sues Cops

    Been waiting for this. Get them John Doe!

    https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/15/day-s...-rights-video/

  7. #7939
    Quote Originally Posted by VelvetGoldMine  [View Original Post]
    Hello friends, I work close to both locations and don't really want to waste money or time. Any info on Healing hands or the MP next to Marges donuts. I'm going to try one of them today after work and will be report what I find out. Is one better than the other?
    I have many HE at Healing Hands. Older Asian lady. We've switched places also. Place by Marge's does not do anything extra, from my experience a couple times.

  8. #7938
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423

    Natasha

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveTheLips  [View Original Post]
    I agree Benz, Natasha is hands down the BEST! So sexy and sweet and yet knows how to tease with the dirty talk, etc and most of all, never, EVER ruins the mood by bringing up money or discussing a tip! That's the reason why Natasha only has to work a couple days a week, she knows the formula to make each guy feel special and in turn makes money hand over first! You would think that all of the ladies would learn that by now.
    I proposed to her, during the appointment.

    The way she looked at me tells me she's thinking about it.

  9. #7937

    Natasha

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    I saw Natasha again last week. I can understand why she doesn't get reviews often. Her clients don't want her schedule filling up more than it is.

    Everytime I see Natasha I'm spellbound by her beauty. Her warm welcoming smile and soft voice help express her personality and why she is the massage queen in our city. I always feel honored to be in her presence.

    She doesn't need to give a massage to relax you, just look into her eyes.

    The words of Frankie Valli kept going through my head, the whole time I was there.

    You're just to good to be true. Can't take my eyes off of you. You're like heaven to touch.

    I will repeat as often as her schedule allows.
    I agree Benz, Natasha is hands down the BEST! So sexy and sweet and yet knows how to tease with the dirty talk, etc and most of all, never, EVER ruins the mood by bringing up money or discussing a tip! That's the reason why Natasha only has to work a couple days a week, she knows the formula to make each guy feel special and in turn makes money hand over first! You would think that all of the ladies would learn that by now.

  10. #7936
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423

    Natasha / Panacea

    I saw Natasha again last week. I can understand why she doesn't get reviews often. Her clients don't want her schedule filling up more than it is.

    Everytime I see Natasha I'm spellbound by her beauty. Her warm welcoming smile and soft voice help express her personality and why she is the massage queen in our city. I always feel honored to be in her presence.

    She doesn't need to give a massage to relax you, just look into her eyes.

    The words of Frankie Valli kept going through my head, the whole time I was there.

    You're just to good to be true. Can't take my eyes off of you. You're like heaven to touch.

    I will repeat as often as her schedule allows.

  11. #7935
    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Then don't go.
    If you don't go, the market might correct it's self.
    I think we're missing the point of the service the hobby MP provides. If they wanted a massage their are plenty of licensed massage girls to do the job for them. If they just need a HJ, they can do it themselves.
    I have a friend that spends a lot of money on a MP girl once or twice a month. He does not care how much anyone else is paying, he will pay more for her to make him a priority when he wants to see her. Maybe he gets off on getting this girl to drop everything for him, when he wants to see her (control freak?) We really don't know what goes on in the psyche of every hobbiest or what really goes on in the room for them to be happy paying whatever price.
    Speculating how we think it should be (as experienced negotiators and hobbiest) doesn't matter to every monger. We have to do our own math and give up questioning how other mongers do their math because it won't make sense to us.
    I am posting for the first time on this forum, but I have been reading this forum for over 10 years. I have over 25 years mongering at MP's and can when I am compelled to write. Benz1 is completely accurate, I have paid way above going rates because I have learned that I would rather have personal attention due to my tipping, than be ignored or have to wait in a line with other people. I know that most people are on a budget, but I just don't really care. I have seen countless providers over the years and I just would rather be a priority with an extra "above average" tip, than tip normal rates and be just another regular "monger". I make good money and would choose to spend it the way I see fit, even though I know it may not be the "norm". I am sorry if this offends someone, but when you are on the table and the provider is good at what she does, then I have learned over the years to tip more to become a priority. Sorry, Benz1, but I din't mean to write so long. I just can't handle when people try to fit a square peg in a round hole! LOL.

  12. #7934
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423

    Over Priced

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie441  [View Original Post]
    Tipping at massage parlor when presented with market prices for a market service, yeah, you're expected to tip as routine as going to a restaurant. But, especially if a gal's going solo doing massages -- if she's charging 3 x standard market prices for it, you aren't expected to tip. By basic assumption, the tip's already included in that Very High Price, to ensure she gets it.

    That said, 3 x the market price, even with tip included, for 45 minutes ($150 instead of $50 + $50 if good), simply is not worth it to one who at least occasionally partakes in massage recreation. It's more than just an extra $10 on top of that good tip, because she's one of the hotter ones, stripped down early, and Fully utilized the time. You're talking 2 x of a Good-Tip. I guess could see that as an Intro price as part of a weeding process, bringing it down to $120 for repeats, fully utilizing the clock where it's more like a standard market HR session in time + giving 2 pops. That's still on the higher-end, and not at all ideal for a guy just looking for a quick pop-and-go, but I could still understand the argument if it was everything shy of a BBBJ that could be had for a lengthy massage Experience + she was great looking and really cool. Basically getting what'd be worth a $60/60 for an HR session with a gal (a great session with a great gal, but still it being an HR session lasting closer to 45 m).
    Then don't go.
    If you don't go, the market might correct it's self.
    I think we're missing the point of the service the hobby MP provides. If they wanted a massage their are plenty of licensed massage girls to do the job for them. If they just need a HJ, they can do it themselves.
    I have a friend that spends a lot of money on a MP girl once or twice a month. He does not care how much anyone else is paying, he will pay more for her to make him a priority when he wants to see her. Maybe he gets off on getting this girl to drop everything for him, when he wants to see her (control freak?) We really don't know what goes on in the psyche of every hobbiest or what really goes on in the room for them to be happy paying whatever price.
    Speculating how we think it should be (as experienced negotiators and hobbiest) doesn't matter to every monger. We have to do our own math and give up questioning how other mongers do their math because it won't make sense to us.

  13. #7933

    It is overpriced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    150 for 45 mins plus tip? I texted her and was quoted the same. That converts to $200 an hour! Holy crap! For a massage and he? Even with bbbj that's crazy high.
    Tipping at massage parlor when presented with market prices for a market service, yeah, you're expected to tip as routine as going to a restaurant. But, especially if a gal's going solo doing massages -- if she's charging 3 x standard market prices for it, you aren't expected to tip. By basic assumption, the tip's already included in that Very High Price, to ensure she gets it.

    That said, 3 x the market price, even with tip included, for 45 minutes ($150 instead of $50 + $50 if good), simply is not worth it to one who at least occasionally partakes in massage recreation. It's more than just an extra $10 on top of that good tip, because she's one of the hotter ones, stripped down early, and Fully utilized the time. You're talking 2 x of a Good-Tip. I guess could see that as an Intro price as part of a weeding process, bringing it down to $120 for repeats, fully utilizing the clock where it's more like a standard market HR session in time + giving 2 pops. That's still on the higher-end, and not at all ideal for a guy just looking for a quick pop-and-go, but I could still understand the argument if it was everything shy of a BBBJ that could be had for a lengthy massage Experience + she was great looking and really cool. Basically getting what'd be worth a $60/60 for an HR session with a gal (a great session with a great gal, but still it being an HR session lasting closer to 45 m).

  14. #7932
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423

    Budget Minded Mongers

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeHolland  [View Original Post]
    I so agree with the crazy rates, I have spent a lot of cash at MP's. $120 seems to be the lowest I spent for a HE and $160 for fity. I have move up to escorts and get FS for a few more dollars. I purchased a burner for $50 and have only gone to established providers. My first MP experience was in Kzoo many years ago, the HE was an extra $5,.
    I'm a budget minded monger too.
    If you get a massage and don't like the upsell for HJ or BJ, Just call an escort (with a burner phone)
    When you call the escort, they're usually in bad hotels.
    Tell them you will not go to that hotel but will pick them up for a car date, as long as they provide BBBJws.
    The BJ car date rate is 40,(don't pay more), that's a better rate than most HJ at an MP.
    It's worked for me many times with providers staying at cheap hotels.
    Don't try this on a Friday they'll hang up on you. This usually works on Sunday thru Thursday.

    While on the car date make sure you get the most for your money, bring along a song or two from ZZ Top Fandango album. My perfect choice for a BJ song is Blue Jean Blues, nice and slow. Plug it in, hit repeat, tell her to match her stroke to the music. If BJB is too slow for you, there are some other great choices on the album , pick the song with the right rhythm and get the BJ speed you want.
    Just trying to help, Happy Hunting

  15. #7931
    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    150 for 45 mins plus tip? I texted her and was quoted the same. That converts to $200 an hour! Holy crap! For a massage and he? Even with bbbj that's crazy high.

    Glad you enjoyed her but all these girls rates are sky high the past year. 60/ hr plus 40-60 tip for nude he with roaming is all I will ever pay. At 150 plus tip for only 45 mins It better be full service plus msog. Riley is a better option. Or better yet just an escort so I know I get full service. These high rates for massage are insane.
    I so agree with the crazy rates, I have spent a lot of cash at MP's. $120 seems to be the lowest I spent for a HE and $160 for fity. I have move up to escorts and get FS for a few more dollars. I purchased a burner for $50 and have only gone to established providers. My first MP experience was in Kzoo many years ago, the HE was an extra $5,.

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