This sounds strange for sure and I'd be highly suspicious of them. Normal verification from a reputable agency would be work info or direct referral or p411 etc. When I got verified several years ago I had to find a place that would accept me that was also willing to act as my reference and also was an acceptable reference to other agencies. The girl was just ok but mostly I was just trying to get verified.
Agree. I have had business card request and I was allowed to block out my last name and company name but had to leave my title so they could see it didn't say lieutenant or detective. Also have had other booker references but sending screenshots of gate codes is a bit much and a breach of trust in my opinion.
Hey everyone, been on the scene for at least 8 years. Broken my own rules of never date a working girl and have dated two in the past, it was always hard on the relationship but it was mutually beneficial for both parties, I provide trust and comfort for the girl and someone to take out on days off or when they have their periods and to have traditional korean dinners with (no one likes eating by themselves). My benefits are BBFS and can corroborate that it really is YMMV because many of you have confirmed that * is a no on BBFS when I know I am getting it. Always been a long time reader of the forum but rarely post because I stick with bookers I know and trust and due to the nature of girls rotating, there is no need to get approved with every single booker out there. I equate this to I already have an American Express, Visa and a MasterCard, I do not also need a Diner's Club, DiscoverCard and don't need a Chase Sapphire Reserve because I already have a Costco Visa and an American Express Platinum product. But we all like different girls for different reasons and I can appreciate that and to each their own. Some might even tier out the booker's such as M & J are higher end but get mentioned more because they seem to cater to BBFS which is what this thread is. I personally do not care but what I do like about this forum is the K-girls and I do like and prefer K-girls. Over 10 years of doing this I have a pretty extensive spreadsheet of bookers, girls I have seen with pivot tables of providors and when they switch agencies and phone number cross references as their numbers keep changing and I like to know who I am dealing with. Just as bookers know about me, I have info on their operations as well and have been able to triangulate agencies and product lines. We are a commodity and our numbers get sold, some bookers exit the business and new ones come in but we all can work a spreadsheet.
This year and most of last year with SESTA and FOSTA bullshit, there has been a lot of consolidation and number changing. As I had mentioned tiering of the bookers, such as M & J, to me pussy is pussy, the k-girl routines are all similar, some add variety, we all start with text me when you park, * is ready and do not knock, the door opens, the shower, the routine cat lick, rim or whatever it is, then on to I did this, I did that and time is up. So maybe some of you think I am on the mid end and deal with agencies like candyshop, fruitstore & sweet asian gem. I have worked through others such as twentyone, asianvibe and aplus but have also dropped some and here is the reason why and where I will get to my rant. Recently tried to book with one and booker wanted 360. I had balked and asked if price went up and booker confirmed because this provider was quite popular and never seen her mentioned here and she is not reviewed on the monkey. Then I find out that she is now on a repeat customer base only and will not see new customers. So like the cable industry, they keep screwing the current and loyal customers. I told the booker that I have other options and thanked him and stated that I will no longer use the service. Another agency twentyone did this to me last year and I did the same thing. I stated to her that we all have choices and I am not paying 300 for what I can get 260 everywhere else. One of my tried and true current roster bookers last year also did a price increase but under a different structure, 260 for the hr and 40 for msog which sometimes I opt for but sometimes I do not but after dropping another booker this weekend I am running out of options and M & J never seem to respond back to me but I am in no hurry and have not been pushy. I am already irked that LA pays more than SF and someone mentioned in a prior thread that it is more difficult to do business down here and the customers are also more of the asshole type. One of my ex's also said the same that people demand more in LA but regardless, I always imagine that there are at least 15 - 20 k girl agencies here in LA and abundance of supply can keep prices down because we have K-town down the street. But I just encourage my brothers out there to stand up don't succumb to the 300. Stay firm and keep prices on the demand side, not the supply side.
I say this not to be cheap or that the girls don't deserve this, there is a spectrum of service, you can spend 140 for crappy service for a C-girl in the SGV in a dump motel for covered everything and no shower but you get what you pay for and this aint my cup of tea. You can also spend 3000 for a well known porn starlett but this aint my cup of tea either, I work too hard for my money and at the end of the day as I mentioned earlier. Pussy is pussy and one thing that levels everything out is one hour is still one hour and that is the value we are placing on this and we all know that 10-15 min of it is going to be burned in the shower and the booker bs'ng as if he / she needs to get their Uber Eats order in first before texting you the green light and riding the girl to get you to leave 5 min early for the next brother at bat. Anyhow thanks for reading and just wanted to rant about the price increases and charging for msog as times are changing. Hold firm and I do not want to hear about the value of 250 back in 2008 and what it would be today adjusted for inflation.
The 360 dollar question is. Who is it? Highest I ever encountered is 280 or 300.
I was asked from a well known site here to verify my last 2 providers by providing a screen shot of their address and gate access code. Is this normal?
This sounds strange for sure and I'd be highly suspicious of them. Normal verification from a reputable agency would be work info or direct referral or p411 etc. When I got verified several years ago I had to find a place that would accept me that was also willing to act as my reference and also was an acceptable reference to other agencies. The girl was just ok but mostly I was just trying to get verified.
I think his point is for sharing info. I agree with that especially with letting us know of bait and switch agencies and putting noteworthy girls on our radar. Revealing an atf is different. When I have an atf that doesn't need extra business then telling the city is like shooting myself in the foot ex. Gets harder to schedule appts. Takes some time effort and money to find an atf in this city I wouldn't give up that info unless she needs more busines or is thinking about moving to another city or sumthin. Happy hunting.
People can do something about the price increase by sharing more new girls here so more people can try them. Some people fear to take a chance on other girls so they stick with who they know. That's how price increase happen to them.
I said it before that they increased the donation because they have many regulars. I also said that I see no differences between the higher donation girls and regular donation girls. I try many of the higher tier girls out of curiosity and not because I think they are better.
My current ATF still asks me for standard donation. I can't help compare the higher tier girls with my ATF and other good girls I saw at the standard donation. It makes me feel the higher tier girls have GPS because they have many regulars. That is a big turn off for me. I spend a lot more than I should so it's not about being cheap or thinking they don't deserve the increase. My ATF blows all the higher tier girls out of the water and that's why she is my current ATF. If anybody deserves the increase with me, it's her.
I never drop bookers for any reason. I want my good name to spread so I don't run out of good girls to see. This is why I have not succumbed to the higher donation because I have more options than I can handle at the usual rate.
I was asked from a well known site here to verify my last 2 providers by providing a screen shot of their address and gate access code. Is this normal?
Toungsten, are you a booker or do you text everyday to see who is working? I ask because I am surprised that they would be willing to tell you availability if you are just asking to ask and not actually booking. I'm in with Sunny and been trying to get in with M to try to see Chanel but I keep getting ignored. Maybe I will get lucky and catch him / her on a slow day and can get past the screening.
He books enough that M doesn't mind that he helps to drive extra business her way.
People can do something about the price increase by sharing more new girls here so more people can try them. Some people fear to take a chance on other girls so they stick with who they know. That's how price increase happen to them.
I said it before that they increased the donation because they have many regulars. I also said that I see no differences between the higher donation girls and regular donation girls. I try many of the higher tier girls out of curiosity and not because I think they are better.
My current ATF still asks me for standard donation. I can't help compare the higher tier girls with my ATF and other good girls I saw at the standard donation. It makes me feel the higher tier girls have GPS because they have many regulars. That is a big turn off for me. I spend a lot more than I should so it's not about being cheap or thinking they don't deserve the increase. My ATF blows all the higher tier girls out of the water and that's why she is my current ATF. If anybody deserves the increase with me, it's her.
I never drop bookers for any reason. I want my good name to spread so I don't run out of good girls to see. This is why I have not succumbed to the higher donation because I have more options than I can handle at the usual rate.
Recently tried to book with one and booker wanted 360. I had balked and asked if price went up and booker confirmed because this provider was quite popular and never seen her mentioned here and she is not reviewed on the monkey. Then I find out that she is now on a repeat customer base only and will not see new customers. So like the cable industry, they keep screwing the current and loyal customers. I told the booker that I have other options and thanked him and stated that I will no longer use the service.
Toungsten, are you a booker or do you text everyday to see who is working? I ask because I am surprised that they would be willing to tell you availability if you are just asking to ask and not actually booking. I'm in with Sunny and been trying to get in with M to try to see Chanel but I keep getting ignored. Maybe I will get lucky and catch him / her on a slow day and can get past the screening.
M never has a slow day LOL. Thats why M is always being discussed on here.
Any steer where the girls are located? Going to try and get approved by that booker but looking for MW / downtown maybe WLA but not OC. Too far to drive.
They have a MW location, definitely not out in OC.
I was asked from a well known site here to verify my last 2 providers by providing a screen shot of their address and gate access code. Is this normal?
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