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  1. #27335

    Not Guilty

    Excellent, if Kraft Wins, and he thinks he can In front of a jury, then LEO will have hard time using cameras again. They arrested the wrong guy with high price attorneys. This could be a win for everyone.


  2. #27334

    AMP's

    This is why I haven't been back to the AMP scene since this happened. Trying to build up the courage to try them again.

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  4. #27332

    They're both well up-to-date

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterPiper52  [View Original Post]
    I wonder if Tara is still a member of this forum and reads it. If so, Tara, you are sorely missed by many of us.
    Make no mistake, they are well aware of what we review. Tara, welcome back (love your massage any where Ad! cant wait to see you) Jenna, you're going to lose more business if you keep charging those outlandish prices! Humble yourself. I remember when you used to charge 80 bucks for an hour. TF happened?

  5. #27331

    RE: Staying Silent

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsetrader  [View Original Post]
    I was stopped in a parking lot with a hooker in my car, the undercover police watched her get in and I didn't detect that I was being followed. About 3 minutes after parking the police rushed me. My parking spot was in such a location that I saw them about 20 seconds before they got to me. Just enough time to put things away.

    They separated us and questioned us independently. Then traded cops. My second cop told me the girl admitted that she was providing services. I just shrugged my shoulders and said nothing. There were threats of taking me to police station. That never happened, they gave up. I never heard from that incident again. Maybe 15 years ago.

    When reunited with the girl, she said she was questioned similarity. She knew to not say anything.

    The cops knew exactly what was happening, but they had no proof and no confession.

    If ever stopped again, I'll say nothing.
    With not much to do today, I decided to do an online search for a couple of providers that have gone missing in the local area. Come to find out, one of our local girls was picked up in St. Augustine, but not for hobby related activities, per usual. Anyway, a cop saw her jump out of a car and run, he followed her, alerting another cop of the possible make and model of the vehicle from which she had jumped from. The police caught up to the driver on 95 south after a short, but high speed chase. They handcuffed him and asked questions. His only remarks were "she's a prostitute and she stole $200 from me. " She said nothing when asked about the driver. They searched his car and found nothing. They let him go with a speeding ticket for doing 84 in a 70 mpg zone. Saying nothing is always better than the alternative. If I were stopped after leaving an AMP, I would comply with their request to provide my identification and insurance / registration information. If they asked what I was doing in the AMP, I would simply reply, "You have my identification and insurance / registration information. " I would repeat that ad infinatum until they released me even if they gave me some kind of traffic ticket. As a side note, it appears from the latest news that Robert Kraft's attorneys are attempting to get his case thrown out of court based on an illegal vehicle stop.

    Shaggy.

    Shaggy.

  6. #27330

    Jenna Maitland. Peter Piper

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterPiper52  [View Original Post]
    I wonder if Tara is still a member of this forum and reads it. If so, Tara, you are sorely missed by many of us.
    So, Thaataone, check your pm from me. Thanks!

  7. #27329
    Awaiting Email Confirmation


    Posts: 836
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaaAtOne  [View Original Post]
    I agree, too. Have gotten tired of the AMP scene. Used to see all the sexy women of Maitland (Tara and her angels along with Jenna.) Jenna has gotten a little too ridiculous with her prices at $250 -$300 for an hour session. She will strip down to her bday suit, but still. I don't think its worth the price of admission. The massage can range from good, ok, terrible. She has definitely tried to capitalize with the absence of Tara. I tried to book with Kenia but she is no longer there and Karina Maxwell is now there with her. Karina used to advert FS and now she's saying NO FS. I noticed Tara is back on massageanywhere. I'm super excited to see how much has changed. Hopefully Tara and Jenna are not competing in terms of prices. Tara gives an amazing session.
    I wonder if Tara is still a member of this forum and reads it. If so, Tara, you are sorely missed by many of us.

  8. #27328

    5th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudiger  [View Original Post]
    IIRC, the whole 5th Amendment thing about keeping silent is about self-incrimination. So, I suspect the way they're trained is that when someone clams up, it's tantamount to an admission of guilt. Believe me, they definitely don't like it when you won't talk to them (it's a loss of control, the primary thing they're trained to have 100% of the time) and instantly escalates the situation to where they will do everything they can possibly think of to make your life miserable after that, up to and including citing you for every minor traffic violation. You and your vehicle will likely be searched, including having a dog sniff where the dog 'alerts' to make it all legal. So, just be prepared for the 'full monty' when you decide to stay silent.

    The bottom line is, during any interaction with LE, you're going to lose. It just depends on how much. If you're lucky, all you'll lose is some self-respect as you have to sit there and take it as some asshole cop berates and feels you and your vehicle up. If you're not lucky, you'll get cited, arrested, or even shot.
    I would highly recommend anybody in this hobby of ours watch this video. Do NOT TALK TO POLICE PERIOD. Highly informative video about our 5th Amendment right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

  9. #27327

    Talk = Arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudiger  [View Original Post]
    IIRC, the whole 5th Amendment thing about keeping silent is about self-incrimination. So, I suspect the way they're trained is that when someone clams up, it's tantamount to an admission of guilt. Believe me, they definitely don't like it when you won't talk to them (it's a loss of control, the primary thing they're trained to have 100% of the time) and instantly escalates the situation to where they will do everything they can possibly think of to make your life miserable after that, up to and including citing you for every minor traffic violation. You and your vehicle will likely be searched, including having a dog sniff where the dog 'alerts' to make it all legal. So, just be prepared for the 'full monty' when you decide to stay silent.

    The bottom line is, during any interaction with LE, you're going to lose. It just depends on how much. If you're lucky, all you'll lose is some self-respect as you have to sit there and take it as some asshole cop berates and feels you and your vehicle up. If you're not lucky, you'll get cited, arrested, or even shot.
    Its not just SILENT=GUILTY, its also TALK=ARRESTED! The Police are already convinced before they stop you after visiting an AMP that you're guilty whether you talk or not. An unprofessional cop may try to intimidate you or write a ticket for every little thing they can, but that's a much better alternative to being arrested and booked on soliciting charges!

    Most encounters are video taped nowadays on body cams so the cops have to watch themselves more. The police will think you did something illegal at the AMP (even if you did not), so there is nothing you can say to help yourself. If you are intimidated and make admissions, the cop might charge you with soliciting, something much, much worse than what they stopped you for.

    To me that is all the more reason to be silent and not give them the satisfaction. Most cops are not going to risk losing their job over a misdemeanor with a guy who just got his carrot snapped at an AMP. If it's obvious you won't cave in, they will give up, write whatever tickets they can and let you go so they can try and get the next one to talk.

  10. #27326

    Stops and Police Tactics

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsetrader  [View Original Post]
    I was stopped in a parking lot with a hooker in my car, the undercover police watched her get in and I didn't detect that I was being followed. About 3 minutes after parking the police rushed me. My parking spot was in such a location that I saw them about 20 seconds before they got to me. Just enough time to put things away.

    They separated us and questioned us independently. Then traded cops. My second cop told me the girl admitted that she was providing services. I just shrugged my shoulders and said nothing. There were threats of taking me to police station. That never happened, they gave up. I never heard from that incident again. Maybe 15 years ago.

    When reunited with the girl, she said she was questioned similarity. She knew to not say anything.

    The cops knew exactly what was happening, but they had no proof and no confession.

    If ever stopped again, I'll say nothing.
    I agree with you. And from your experience, it only goes to show that police will lie and try to convince you they "got" you, but shut up anyway. There is nothing you can say to help yourself. If they had enough to arrest and charge you they would have done that regardless.

  11. #27325
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaaAtOne  [View Original Post]
    I agree, too. Have gotten tired of the AMP scene. Used to see all the sexy women of Maitland (Tara and her angels along with Jenna.) Jenna has gotten a little too ridiculous with her prices at $250 -$300 for an hour session. She will strip down to her bday suit, but still. I don't think its worth the price of admission. The massage can range from good, ok, terrible. She has definitely tried to capitalize with the absence of Tara. I tried to book with Kenia but she is no longer there and Karina Maxwell is now there with her. Karina used to advert FS and now she's saying NO FS. I noticed Tara is back on massageanywhere. I'm super excited to see how much has changed. Hopefully Tara and Jenna are not competing in terms of prices. Tara gives an amazing session.
    $300 for an hour massage with HE in the nude? I get that she is gorgeous, and if people are willing to pay that, more power to them, but that seems insane.

  12. #27324

    I Disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudiger  [View Original Post]
    IIRC, the whole 5th Amendment thing about keeping silent is about self-incrimination. So, I suspect the way they're trained is that when someone clams up, it's tantamount to an admission of guilt. Believe me, they definitely don't like it when you won't talk to them (it's a loss of control, the primary thing they're trained to have 100% of the time) and instantly escalates the situation to where they will do everything they can possibly think of to make your life miserable after that, up to and including citing you for every minor traffic violation. You and your vehicle will likely be searched, including having a dog sniff where the dog 'alerts' to make it all legal. So, just be prepared for the 'full monty' when you decide to stay silent.
    .
    I was stopped in a parking lot with a hooker in my car, the undercover police watched her get in and I didn't detect that I was being followed. About 3 minutes after parking the police rushed me. My parking spot was in such a location that I saw them about 20 seconds before they got to me. Just enough time to put things away.

    They separated us and questioned us independently. Then traded cops. My second cop told me the girl admitted that she was providing services. I just shrugged my shoulders and said nothing. There were threats of taking me to police station. That never happened, they gave up. I never heard from that incident again. Maybe 15 years ago.

    When reunited with the girl, she said she was questioned similarity. She knew to not say anything.

    The cops knew exactly what was happening, but they had no proof and no confession.

    If ever stopped again, I'll say nothing.

  13. #27323

    Jenna, Maitland

    I agree, too. Have gotten tired of the AMP scene. Used to see all the sexy women of Maitland (Tara and her angels along with Jenna.) Jenna has gotten a little too ridiculous with her prices at $250 -$300 for an hour session. She will strip down to her bday suit, but still. I don't think its worth the price of admission. The massage can range from good, ok, terrible. She has definitely tried to capitalize with the absence of Tara. I tried to book with Kenia but she is no longer there and Karina Maxwell is now there with her. Karina used to advert FS and now she's saying NO FS. I noticed Tara is back on massageanywhere. I'm super excited to see how much has changed. Hopefully Tara and Jenna are not competing in terms of prices. Tara gives an amazing session.

    Quote Originally Posted by Watcher5150  [View Original Post]
    Hello all,

    My preference is a good massage with a HE. Not really into FS or AMP, prefer mature independent providers. I've tried Ellen in Winter Park (nice finish, but massage wasn't that great), Theresa in Lake Mary (once a great massage and finish, feels like she is putting less effort in as she is getting up there now), Pamela in Winter Park (great massage, nice finish but having a hard time getting in touch lately), and the ladies of IHOP. Was curious if anyone could suggest who else to check out. Again, I like a good massage with a HE, and sometimes the massage part is more important than the finish, to be honest.

    Two more questions:

    Has anyone tried Nikki / Nicole who advertised on MassageAnywhere.com?

    Is Holly (I think that was her name, might have been Wendy), the older redhead on Executive Drive, a few houses down from Pamela, still providing? Lost her contact info and Backpage, sadly, is no more.

  14. #27322

    AMP, Change of Heart

    Kinda slowed down on my AMP visitations. I have a really good rapport with one of the Mamasans from the Big 4. She put things in perspective for me which kinda turned me off. In a single day, these women are being pumped and splattered by MANY of us mongers. If I can't catch her first thing in the morning, I refuse to catch her late into that afternoon or evening. After reading all of our wonderful times at the Big 4, I would hate for the provider to welcome me with her Juicy Kiss after finishing up a session with the previous monger who just splattered his eggs all in her mouth LMAO.

    Lets face it, these gals are money hungry and want to get you in, get your money and try to fuck you the best way possible (if she's willing).

    Now, I'm trying to sniff out these massage girls on the different platforms to see if I can get lucky LOL.

    New Adventures.

  15. #27321
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1104

    Silent = Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman100  [View Original Post]
    If there is an active investigation, LEO can pull you over to interrogate you on that. They don't need to stop you on a pretense of a minor traffic violation. LEO quite often will be very clear as to what they are investigating and why YOU were pulled over. Be very careful what you say to LEO, it can come back to bite you later.

    Good ACLU article on LEO stops: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-right...-agents-or-fbi.

    I wonder if that is why GG is now closed: LEO harassing customers after a pleasant visit. Maybe BO and KMP are on their radar too? Be safe.
    IIRC, the whole 5th Amendment thing about keeping silent is about self-incrimination. So, I suspect the way they're trained is that when someone clams up, it's tantamount to an admission of guilt. Believe me, they definitely don't like it when you won't talk to them (it's a loss of control, the primary thing they're trained to have 100% of the time) and instantly escalates the situation to where they will do everything they can possibly think of to make your life miserable after that, up to and including citing you for every minor traffic violation. You and your vehicle will likely be searched, including having a dog sniff where the dog 'alerts' to make it all legal. So, just be prepared for the 'full monty' when you decide to stay silent.

    The bottom line is, during any interaction with LE, you're going to lose. It just depends on how much. If you're lucky, all you'll lose is some self-respect as you have to sit there and take it as some asshole cop berates and feels you and your vehicle up. If you're not lucky, you'll get cited, arrested, or even shot.

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