"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Hal1957]

Not sure how it happened but my browser switched to a different mode in the filters area and wouldn't show the messages. Back to normal now thank goodness. My profile instructs them to send an alternate contact in their first message. Most girls can figure that out. The ones who can't, probably aren't reading my profile anyway. My collection of SB phone numbers for texting grows daily. I travel extensively and change my profile locations to reflect places where it would be convenient to spend the night. Still learning but amazing how many 18-24 why / o girls want to sack out with grampa!

I just read 3 messages using a Mac and Chrome with no issue. The only issue I have is that too many ladies just like to say Hi and not leave contact info which you need since you cannot respond if you are not a paying member.

[FarFarAway]

I'm not compiling the equivalent of notches in my belt, but I do I have Aegis secure USB stick, which has some photos and video that I would not want anyone else to see. For my own sake, and more importantly, my former SB's sake. I also use it to make snapshots of financial and other important data that I would want disaster-proof but also inaccessible to only me.

Appreciate all of those responses. I have an encrypted USB that holds everything related to the bowl, including the browsers I use, etc. I keep screenshots (PDFs used to work but don't now) of the SA profiles of anyone I've FC'd or had significant messaging w /, especially if they give me a weird vibe. Just for my own protection, in case they were to come back at me sometime w / some threat. I also track down SM of girls when I can get their full names, which is usually pretty easy to do. All of that goes into separate folders. I have a few sexy shots girls have sexted to me, but most are just the profile pics.

[InTight]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

TrueCrypt is a free encryption software. It is now not being managed by the group that kept it upgraded and secure for years. Microsoft and others provide encryption but I would expect a backdoor for LE in any of these. I still use TrueCrypt and love it, you can encrypt a folder, a entire drive and a jump drive. As long as you are careful when you set it up it is perfect security. Never email any photo or other data that you want secure, those things live forever. When you sell or give away your computer then use a secure data overwrite program that covers and delete any tracks. Better yet follow Hillery and use a hammer to delete the drive.

[Bill Cullen]

I will be traveling to your state this Thursday. Staying in Reston VA. I'm looking for advice on what towns to search on SA. Also if anyone knows any babies that are traveler friendly in that area?

DC is a tough town to sugar on a budget. There's lots of money in that town and asking prices from SB's are often very high. 400-500 seems to be the average all over DC, Faifax & Loudoun. Manasses gets a little less expensive. You're betteroff going south towards Woodbridge or North to Baltimore.

NOVA also has it's own relatively active SB thread.

[Roxoff801]

Is it just me, or has SA changed the way they present messages? The old trick to read after your membership expires doesn't seem to work anymore.

I just read 3 messages using a Mac and Chrome with no issue. The only issue I have is that too many ladies just like to say Hi and not leave contact info which you need since you cannot respond if you are not a paying member.

[Hal1957]

Is it just me, or has SA changed the way they present messages? The old trick to read after your membership expires doesn't seem to work anymore.

[JustLonely]

This one is good to go with giving head only. That was her first message to me when I sent out my generic greeting. Probably caught her when she tired of guys asking stuff so she put it out there. That's all I know as she blocked me when my reply to that wasn't to her liking.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f4cf3...1-f7cbda5bcb1d

[HollywoodGuy]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

I used to have a legacy spreadsheet, but I deleted it, as thinking about all the money I spent kinda depressed me. I used to spend a lot back in the day. Glad I deleted it. As far as pics I also had a ton of them, one day I got paranoid and deleted 90% of them after reading about so many people that have gotten in trouble because they had questionable pics on their HD that got into the wrong hands. Mine were all legal, but I don't need someone thinking maybe they weren't due to all the 18 and 19 year olds that maybe someone would have thought were younger. I am sorry I did that. Also I was obsessing on them a bit too much.

But in retrospect (as far as the dinero), I stopped counting at 200 girls a long time ago. But I am sure all of them combined was less that a third of what I spent on my last wife. Which is why there will never be another. lol

[Ernest Ll]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

One of the MILFs I met on WYP -- whom I never paid -- like having money shot souveniers. She would hand me her phone, as me to take some photos and then would email me her faves. Our first encounter's photo memory was a shot of her ass, with a vibrating butt plug with its glowing end stuffed in her, and her hands bound at the small of her back, just beneath the pool of cum I deposited on her. She showed me some of her others. Her face or body parts glistening.

One 20 yo I saw would take selfies of herself while I plowed her ass doggie style. Basically her contorted face with my headless torso mounting her from behind. She later gave me the phone and I videoed her expressions while I drilled her mercilessly in Mish and she came buckets. She then sent them too me.

I own my own small business and filed them on a corner of my workplace server only I have access too and buried them several folders deep under innocuous names. Sherlock Holmes would have trouble finding them.

[PartyTimeGuy]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

Absolutely. I have photos of every SB "score. " At last count it was up to 276. Not quite the 20,000 that Wilt Chamberlain bragged about (and his presumably were all free), but to approach those kinds of numbers I would have to retire early and fuck SBs as my full time occupation. Not a terrible proposition at all.

I find my photo collection a terrific way to walk down sensual and sexual memory lane. And obviously excellent spanking material.

I don't have a SO to hide my photos from, but, if I did, I would simply encrypt the photo file to keep it away from prying eyes.

[DogBert77]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

Gee, I feel sort of like a slacker that I don't. I've only been in the bowl six months and I'm already forgetting some of the girls. I certainly don't have anything that lists every score in my LIFE. That's inconceivable. I do have a few photos of memorable SB's I would like to keep. I am really low tech about it. I just email them to myself using my monger email, then save them in a folder. There is probably something wrong with that approach, but I'm not sure what it is.

[Walruscl]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

I'm not compiling the equivalent of notches in my belt, but I do I have Aegis secure USB stick, which has some photos and video that I would not want anyone else to see. For my own sake, and more importantly, my former SB's sake. I also use it to make snapshots of financial and other important data that I would want disaster-proof but also inaccessible to only me.

[FarFarAway]

I presume, like me, all of you SDs have a 'life list' that you are updating with each score of a SB. Please dish, exactly how are you saving up those memories? And doing it safely, away from prying eyes? FFA.

[Skidxxx]

I will be traveling to your state this Thursday. Staying in Reston VA. I'm looking for advice on what towns to search on SA. Also if anyone knows any babies that are traveler friendly in that area?

[TomDickNHarry]

Agree, many of the sob stories are true, it's usually why they're doing this. But yes, falling for it as a reason you should provide something over and above the agreement / norm or an advance is literally insane. If it's an advance, she'll ghost, and if it's extra sugar the stories will keep on coming and if you don't continue the additional help, then she ghosts in search of the next sucker.

I say no always, and almost always they keep seeing me (though sometimes the request turns me off and I move on). But the reality is usually they are seeing more than one guy and I suspect the others are not saying no, even had one tell me as much after one of our 2+ hour FC visits for 200. The way she talked about the other daddy was almost contemptuous BTW, wasn't even a hint of gratitude. My guess is that they on some level look at guys who fall for it the same way I do, as a sucker or a mark.

I would say yes and no.

Yes, I actually do believe that a lot of these girls have pretty crazy lives, are irresponsible, and have a lot of bad shit happen to them. No, I don't let my belief or disbelief affect the amount or timing of what I give them. I give them a modest donation AFTER I have had sex with them. I don't mind whether they use the whole amount to get their nails done at the most expensive salon in town, or to bail their deadbeat dad out of jail, or whatever. If they need more, we need to schedule another visit, assuming their performance warrants it. I don't pay more per visit, and I don't pay in advance. If my donation can help them with their run of bad luck, great, everybody is happy. If their misfortunes are so monumental that incremental donations are of no use? Next!

My take on the whole thing is that at the end of the day, of course it's a financial transaction. If you met the same girl behind the counter of your local coffee shop, are you going to give her $400 for a $4 latte because her car got towed that morning? I do everything I can not to rub their noses in the financial realities, in the hope and expectation that they will provide an experience that doesn't feel transactional, but none of that changes how much or when they get paid.