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  1. #27140

    Kms

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoRB25  [View Original Post]
    I drove by KMS a little after 6 pm today. Open sign was on and had the front door propped open as looked like they were doing a little cleaning.
    Kms is definitely open! Yuki isn't back yet though! They do have a lot of other options though.

  2. #27139
    Quote Originally Posted by RatFish  [View Original Post]
    You may well be right. But depending on your situation, it's not about the legal fight. The embarrassment. Job loss, divorce, etc. Is the real penalty. I agree the legal case is shaky and a misdemeanor anyway, but that's not really the issue for most mongers I think.
    I have a few friends outside the US that are single and have fun from time to time in their respective adult 'red light' areas.

    They see the news about this from the links and seriously think it is a joke. I wish it was.

    I think everyone here is fine with stopping human trafficking. But this kind of stuff seems to be more of a shaming tactic to scare the customers.

    Either way we all know that this kind of stuff will only cause the whole industry to continue to go underground. Making everything more dangerous (especially for the providers).

  3. #27138

    Another one

    Quote Originally Posted by James185  [View Original Post]
    This will work. And reasonable price. Still ned time to scan room ahead of time.

    https://www.flir.com/products/flir-o...caAkuWEALw_wcB
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hUhNtR-sk

  4. #27137

    Yes good point

    Quote Originally Posted by Hapkido1947  [View Original Post]
    Yes, they work if you get he right kind, I have used them before.
    This will work. And reasonable price. Still ned time to scan room ahead of time.

    https://www.flir.com/products/flir-o...caAkuWEALw_wcB

  5. #27136

    Detection cam

    Quote Originally Posted by BeachBum15  [View Original Post]
    Never thought of this before but now. Well doesn't seem as crazy as before. Has anyone considered or used camera or wifi detecting devices in the rooms? Looked some of the products up on the I-net with mixed reviews. Curious if these devices actually work in a real 'environment', which do work, if any and how best to use them if they do. Openly (has it's own merit) or secretively.
    Yes, they work if you get he right kind, I have used them before.

  6. #27135

    Maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by LastMarshall  [View Original Post]
    If you are so scared stay home. Everyone thinks the sky is falling. If you wish to go then go if not stay home.

    What goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults is their business.

    Cameras cannot be installed without a court order, and the owner would have to know what was going on because they have to be provided with a copy of the court order.

    If you are stopped for an alleged traffic infraction only provide licenses, registration and insurance.

    Do not answer any questions about your activities. You have the right to remain silent use it.

    Or just state it was not me. We saw you leaving the place. Was not me.

    Don't make their jobs easy make them prove you did something other than get a massage.

    It is so simple to figure out.
    You may well be right. But depending on your situation, it's not about the legal fight. The embarrassment. Job loss, divorce, etc. Is the real penalty. I agree the legal case is shaky and a misdemeanor anyway, but that's not really the issue for most mongers I think.

  7. #27134
    Quote Originally Posted by LastMarshall  [View Original Post]
    If you are so scared stay home. Everyone thinks the sky is falling. If you wish to go then go if not stay home.

    What goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults is their business.

    Cameras cannot be installed without a court order, and the owner would have to know what was going on because they have to be provided with a copy of the court order.

    If you are stopped for an alleged traffic infraction only provide licenses, registration and insurance.

    Do not answer any questions about your activities. You have the right to remain silent use it.

    Or just state it was not me. We saw you leaving the place. Was not me.

    Don't make their jobs easy make them prove you did something other than get a massage.

    It is so simple to figure out.
    Amen to that!

  8. #27133

    Spy on Spy

    Never thought of this before but now. Well doesn't seem as crazy as before. Has anyone considered or used camera or wifi detecting devices in the rooms? Looked some of the products up on the I-net with mixed reviews. Curious if these devices actually work in a real 'environment', which do work, if any and how best to use them if they do. Openly (has it's own merit) or secretively.

  9. #27132

    Bella.

    Hey fellas,

    Sorry shit's hitting the fan in your area, especially right before I come to town for a work conference.

    Search didn't turn up much but curious if anyone has tried Bella.

    Productorwix. wixsite.com/ belladayspamobile.

    I'm going to be without car so looking for someone who will come to me or not too bad of a cab ride from conference hotel near mickey. Happy to get a decent massage +. This Bella shows up on searches but not much for reviews or anything that I can find.

  10. #27131
    Quote Originally Posted by LastMarshall  [View Original Post]
    If you are so scared stay home. Everyone thinks the sky is falling. If you wish to go then go if not stay home.

    What goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults is their business.

    Cameras cannot be installed without a court order, and the owner would have to know what was going on because they have to be provided with a copy of the court order.

    If you are stopped for an alleged traffic infraction only provide licenses, registration and insurance.

    Do not answer any questions about your activities. You have the right to remain silent use it.

    Or just state it was not me. We saw you leaving the place. Was not me.

    Don't make their jobs easy make them prove you did something other than get a massage.

    It is so simple to figure out.
    It's all public record already, they used a bomb threat to plant the cameras. It's not that hard to get surveillance, it's just a huge waste of money to do it for someone giving hand jobs. The owner doesn't need a copy of a court order, that would defeat the purpose of surveillance.

  11. #27130

    Natural today

    Went to natural today. This was the second time in the last couple of weeks. Went to the shower and had a great nap. Dreamt there was great teasing with the boys. Then off to the room. Below average massage but great teasing the entire time. Then on the flip was the fun part. Every time gets better and better. Again, just a dream.

    Words of advice, never talk money. Don't be a fool and talk money. Don't negotiate. We all know the rates. Pay the house fee and leave the rest out somewhere. Then enjoy.

  12. #27129

    LEO hiding cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by LastMarshall  [View Original Post]
    If you are so scared stay home. Everyone thinks the sky is falling. If you wish to go then go if not stay home.

    What goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults is their business.

    Cameras cannot be installed without a court order, and the owner would have to know what was going on because they have to be provided with a copy of the court order.

    If you are stopped for an alleged traffic infraction only provide licenses, registration and insurance.

    Do not answer any questions about your activities. You have the right to remain silent use it.

    Or just state it was not me. We saw you leaving the place. Was not me.

    Don't make their jobs easy make them prove you did something other than get a massage.

    It is so simple to figure out.
    They could have posed as customers and planted them while undressing, but that is illegal because a court order has to be in hand and a copy provided to the owner. Was the ladies involved? Maybe they were offered a deal so LEO could get a big fish. This case won't make it to court the law was broken in so many ways that loopholes are wide open.

  13. #27128

    Wb mona

    Oh yeah, WB is open. Stop by there parked across the street, ate lunch in the car just to see how busy they were going to be. No cars whatsoever. So I ventured over there. I go there and I see a long lost friend, Mona greeted me said hi said she remembered me from CB and GG. What was funny is even though she recognized me you can tell that they are spooked because she greeted me enthusiastically but held out her hand for handshake and I gave her a handshake and half a hug but once we got into the room she said hello properly. We had an amazing massage in the shower returned to the room where the massage was just as amazing, very much like the Moana I remembered the massage was very good I paid the 60 house fee. She offered two massages but I only partook of one because it was very relaxing and draining. Had a great time so, as with any great service in any business, I left a customary tip on the table. It was great seeing Mona again.

  14. #27127

    Let's Move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianRiver  [View Original Post]
    My question was that if girls are living there how did LEO install cameras without being seen. ?
    If you are so scared stay home. Everyone thinks the sky is falling. If you wish to go then go if not stay home.

    What goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults is their business.

    Cameras cannot be installed without a court order, and the owner would have to know what was going on because they have to be provided with a copy of the court order.

    If you are stopped for an alleged traffic infraction only provide licenses, registration and insurance.

    Do not answer any questions about your activities. You have the right to remain silent use it.

    Or just state it was not me. We saw you leaving the place. Was not me.

    Don't make their jobs easy make them prove you did something other than get a massage.

    It is so simple to figure out.

  15. #27126

    Live ins

    My question was that if girls are living there how did LEO install cameras without being seen. ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokester1  [View Original Post]
    They live in the spas for several reasons, among them:

    1. It's cheaper than renting an outside place. Most want to amass as much money as quickly as possible so they can retire.

    2. It's difficult to rent a decent place if you have income you can't put down on the application form for an apartment. And even if you do put it down, you don't have any proof of that income.

    3. With limited English, it's a hassle to rent a place, arrange utilities, etc. , etc. Not to mention maintaining the place when you are on duty 13 or 14 hours a day.

    4. Wouldn't get much sleep if you have to go back and forth from an outside residence to your workplace when you are on duty from 9 AM or 10 AM to 11 PM.

    5. Have to have transportation to your outside residence--they don't want to waste money on a car; it's hard for them to get a driving license; taxis and uber would be an additional expense; and walking "home" late at night might not be very safe.

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