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[PhantomPhx69]

After jamming on SA hard as fuck for a week, here are things I have learned:

10. The most satisfying comment I've heard yet from a chick was after I described, in detail, exactly what I wanted from an arrangement. After about a minute, she texted back, "I'm down for the ride. ".

That an awesome list of advice. What is the template of your arrangement to seal the deal look like?

[Blarharse]

After jamming on SA hard as fuck for a week, here are things I have learned:

1. If you're searching for Latinas, only check the "Slim" box because every other box means fat-ass. An "athletic" Latina does not look like the captain of the swim team.

2. Fully 1/3 of female accounts must be bots. They include one photo, invariably a beautiful selfie or headshot, and a brief one-sentence profile consisting of some generic copy. They never reply. They also tend to list multiple locations, so the site gets more bang for the buck from the labor whom they are paying to create these fake profiles.

3. Any chick who initiates a DM is either a pro, a pig, or living in an impoverished country.

4. After a week on the site, 27 looks old as fuck to me.

5. After you favorite a chick, DM with her, text with her, exchange additional pics, agree on a type of arrangement and then make plans to meet, 50% flake at that moment. Not before, not after. Right at the moment of commitment.

6. The more copy a chick writes in her profile, the crazier she is.

7. The non-pros on the site really, really, really want to find some way to have a significant amount of non-transactional conversation with you so they can pretend that they're not engaged in the world's oldest profession.

8. After a while, you can read an entire profile in 5 seconds. They are so repetitious as to defy belief.

9. The large majority of chicks don't fill in the "Seeking" portion of their profile.

10. The most satisfying comment I've heard yet from a chick was after I described, in detail, exactly what I wanted from an arrangement. After about a minute, she texted back, "I'm down for the ride. ".

[BamBam]

What I like about the post below is how you are tracking your numbers. As has been pointed out forever, it is a numbers game. Once you get that at a very intuitive level, your personal game will grow much stronger. You should DM every profile you favorite. Even if they are marginal. In my experience, very few women will ever respond to being favorited. I recommend you think about keeping a spreadsheet or table for the profiles for which you get a number. It helps to have a reliable place (not the notes section) where you capture the woman's data. This is back up in case she blocks you, gets banned or loses her password. I already have PII on about two-thirds of the women I agree to meet. Once you have some regular SB's you will continue to search but you will find it much easier to skip over questionable profiles and to say No to requests for money at the MnG. The downside to offering money is your scarce time / budget can be consumed by all the eager women who want money at the MnG and who will never sleep with you. (They are legion and they are looking especially for you.) I now consider any insistence for money up front or at the first meeting to be a sign the woman does not expect to meet a second time and she knows she needs to score immediately.

Bam.

OK, so I've put some serious hours into screening SB candidates on SA. My screening criteria are: 18-24, White / Asian, Slim, within 25 miles of L. A. I reviewed about 400 profiles, favorited 110 of them, passed DM's with about 25 of those and texted with 11 ladies so far. I have first meetings set up with 3 of them next week (all lunches / coffees). Here is what I've learned:

Now, I'm sure that some of you guys are going to yell at me for this, but in 2 of my 3 meetings, I agreed to pay $100 PPM for the first (coffee / lunch) meeting. I know it's probably not a good idea, but I need to get my sea legs here and don't want to seem cheap if the situation might actually develop into something I want. Go ahead, yell.

[GoldenMan]

6. The SB's are all battle-scarred and worn out by scammers and liars. I have no idea what games dudes are playing with these ladies, but it ain't pretty.

From talking to them, it's one or more of:

1. Straight up financial scams from Indians and Nigerians. Give me all of your info and your bank account information, so I can pay you. Except it turns out the money flows in the opposite direction, and by the time the dumb girl finds out, it's too late.

2. Guys pretending to be ballers, but failing to follow through. (See every item below).

3. Guys offering $100 to fuck in a parked car.

4. Lonely guys who want to engage in endless texting / emailing. They really just want a pen pal.

5. Guys who want to take a test drive or get a freebie. After a girl falls for it 5 or 6 times, she starts to get angry.

6. Guys offering to put the girl on an official company payroll. She "dates" him for 2 weeks and then the paycheck never arrives.

Imagine if you were horny, desperate, and poor, and the types of scams you might run.

I'll admit I've jaded more than my share of girls, but it's usually because I get bored and drop them, or she doesn't want to be part of a harem. But they can never say I wasn't generous.

[Blarharse]

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Please don't feed the trolls, either report it or add him to your ignore list.

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[Wobbowobbo]

[Deleted by Admin]The creeper factor is high and lots of girls that would be open to 200 prices are creeped out fast by guys only requesting private photos and talking to them like they are pros. [Deleted by Admin]

When you need to give them money to fuck them they are pros and the sooner they know that the better your price will be.

You post once a quarter and you're encouraging GPS, are you a chick?

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[HollywoodGuy]

I just read yet again on another thread about the high cost of a seeking membership. And in the same post something about how happy they were after dropping $$$ on a girl. I really don't get any ones aversion to the membership price. I don't care if you think that place is a scam and every girl is a pro. There are a ton of low mileage girls on that site.

[HollywoodGuy]

OK, so I've put some serious hours into screening SB candidates on SA. My screening criteria are: 18-24, White / Asian, Slim, within 25 miles of L. A. I reviewed about 400 profiles, favorited 110 of them, passed DM's with about 25 of those and texted with 11 ladies so far. I have first meetings set up with 3 of them next week (all lunches / coffees). Here is what I've learned:

1. After a while, SB profiles really tend to blur together. To say they are repetitive is an understatement.

2. The super-cute ones never respond. I'm sure they're buried alive under requests for meetings.

3. There is something in the water in Fullerton, Anaheim and Long Beach because those bitches are flooding the zone on SA.

4. My inbox is getting hammered by SB's in Venezuela. What do they think I'm going to do? Come down there with a fucking tank division and blast my way to her neighborhood?? FFS.

5. Fully half of the SB's who respond to me or reach out are straight-up obvious hookers who aren't even playing the game.

6. The SB's are all battle-scarred and worn out by scammers and liars. I have no idea what games dudes are playing with these ladies, but it ain't pretty.

Now, I'm sure that some of you guys are going to yell at me for this, but in 2 of my 3 meetings, I agreed to pay $100 PPM for the first (coffee / lunch) meeting. I know it's probably not a good idea, but I need to get my sea legs here and don't want to seem cheap if the situation might actually develop into something I want. Go ahead, yell.

Slow down there bro. You are so new they can smell it all the way across the internet. Cancel all your M&G's. Take a deep breath. Go fuck one of your regulars and start over. This time, quickly delete all the riff raff, pick 3 girls that are ringers for your fantasy girl. Graciously offer to take them to a nice lunch, or starbucks, but nothing above what you would spend in your normal daily life. And go from there.

[City Slicker]

OK, so I've put some serious hours into screening SB candidates on SA. My screening criteria are: 18-24, White / Asian, Slim, within 25 miles of L. A. I reviewed about 400 profiles, favorited 110 of them, passed DM's with about 25 of those and texted with 11 ladies so far. I have first meetings set up with 3 of them next week (all lunches / coffees). Here is what I've learned:

1. After a while, SB profiles really tend to blur together. To say they are repetitive is an understatement.

2. The super-cute ones never respond. I'm sure they're buried alive under requests for meetings.

3. There is something in the water in Fullerton, Anaheim and Long Beach because those bitches are flooding the zone on SA.

4. My inbox is getting hammered by SB's in Venezuela. What do they think I'm going to do? Come down there with a fucking tank division and blast my way to her neighborhood?? FFS.

5. Fully half of the SB's who respond to me or reach out are straight-up obvious hookers who aren't even playing the game.

6. The SB's are all battle-scarred and worn out by scammers and liars. I have no idea what games dudes are playing with these ladies, but it ain't pretty.

Now, I'm sure that some of you guys are going to yell at me for this, but in 2 of my 3 meetings, I agreed to pay $100 PPM for the first (coffee / lunch) meeting. I know it's probably not a good idea, but I need to get my sea legs here and don't want to seem cheap if the situation might actually develop into something I want. Go ahead, yell.

More power to you bro if you get anywhere with the $1 meet & greet! Unlikely but live and learn and report back! Very detailed report. Nice!

[FarFarAway]

OK, so I've put some serious hours into screening SB candidates on SA. My screening criteria are: 18-24, White / Asian, Slim, within 25 miles of L. A. I reviewed about 400 profiles, favorited 110 of them, passed DM's with about 25 of those and texted with 11 ladies so far. I have first meetings set up with 3 of them next week (all lunches / coffees). Here is what I've learned:

Now, I'm sure that some of you guys are going to yell at me for this, but in 2 of my 3 meetings, I agreed to pay $100 PPM for the first (coffee / lunch) meeting. I know it's probably not a good idea, but I need to get my sea legs here and don't want to seem cheap if the situation might actually develop into something I want. Go ahead, yell.

Just my observation, I'd spend a few days reading the threads where major how-tos are posted. That specifically is Richmond VA sugar thread, and an archive of some of its best posts.

[Blarharse]

OK, so I've put some serious hours into screening SB candidates on SA. My screening criteria are: 18-24, White / Asian, Slim, within 25 miles of L. A. I reviewed about 400 profiles, favorited 110 of them, passed DM's with about 25 of those and texted with 11 ladies so far. I have first meetings set up with 3 of them next week (all lunches / coffees). Here is what I've learned:

1. After a while, SB profiles really tend to blur together. To say they are repetitive is an understatement.

2. The super-cute ones never respond. I'm sure they're buried alive under requests for meetings.

3. There is something in the water in Fullerton, Anaheim and Long Beach because those bitches are flooding the zone on SA.

4. My inbox is getting hammered by SB's in Venezuela. What do they think I'm going to do? Come down there with a fucking tank division and blast my way to her neighborhood?? FFS.

5. Fully half of the SB's who respond to me or reach out are straight-up obvious hookers who aren't even playing the game.

6. The SB's are all battle-scarred and worn out by scammers and liars. I have no idea what games dudes are playing with these ladies, but it ain't pretty.

Now, I'm sure that some of you guys are going to yell at me for this, but in 2 of my 3 meetings, I agreed to pay $100 PPM for the first (coffee / lunch) meeting. I know it's probably not a good idea, but I need to get my sea legs here and don't want to seem cheap if the situation might actually develop into something I want. Go ahead, yell.

[Mile22]

Or just tell them "You know... every LTR starts out as a one night stand. Let's see how we vibe and then go from there.

I'm stealing this. Way simpler.

[HollywoodGuy]

As far as PPM, what I tell girls who have asked for a set monthly allowance from the jump is "My previous arrangement (s) all started as a per meet to find chemistry, establish trust and find some consistency in our schedules. Once we have those 3 elements, and things are going smoothly, I'm open to revisiting the conversation.

Or just tell them "You know... every LTR starts out as a one night stand. Let's see how we vibe and then go from there.

[Blarharse]

Based on what I'm seeing here and my own personal experience, the range is really subjective. I say this because I've had White / Asian girls for much less than $3-4.

It really depends on your looks, personality, persuasion. If the whole package of who you are and what you're offering (outside the $) is compelling / intriguing enough they'll accept it.

$3-4 for white / asian girls is not so much a hard and fast rule, as it is these girls being put on a pedestal.

Or I could be completely wrong, and I've just been incredibly lucky.

As far as PPM, what I tell girls who have asked for a set monthly allowance from the jump is "My previous arrangement (s) all started as a per meet to find chemistry, establish trust and find some consistency in our schedules. Once we have those 3 elements, and things are going smoothly, I'm open to revisiting the conversation. ".

Most are agreeable to that, and it's hard to argue against.

Those that try to find a way to argue against that are not worth the headache. Pass on them.

Maintain your frame, remember they need you more than you need them, and acknowledge that some of the best arrangements are the ones that you don't make.

Great advice. Thanks for the perspective. And I'm glad to hear that PPM works from the jump. I'll report back on my progress!

[Mile22]

So, I am just now diving into the Bowl and, from what I am hearing, it seems like the reasonable range for a White / Asian SB is $3-4.

What I really can't figure out before starting to go on dates is whether it's easy or not easy to get them into bed on a PPM basis. Most of their profiles refer to allowances and insinuate a monthly basis of payment. Can I reasonably expect to just blah blah blah agree to a monthly thing, but get dirty with them once, pay them the PPM rate and then call it quits? Help a brother out here! Thanks.

Based on what I'm seeing here and my own personal experience, the range is really subjective. I say this because I've had White / Asian girls for much less than $3-4.

It really depends on your looks, personality, persuasion. If the whole package of who you are and what you're offering (outside the $) is compelling / intriguing enough they'll accept it.

$3-4 for white / asian girls is not so much a hard and fast rule, as it is these girls being put on a pedestal.

Or I could be completely wrong, and I've just been incredibly lucky.

As far as PPM, what I tell girls who have asked for a set monthly allowance from the jump is "My previous arrangement (s) all started as a per meet to find chemistry, establish trust and find some consistency in our schedules. Once we have those 3 elements, and things are going smoothly, I'm open to revisiting the conversation. ".

Most are agreeable to that, and it's hard to argue against.

Those that try to find a way to argue against that are not worth the headache. Pass on them.

Maintain your frame, remember they need you more than you need them, and acknowledge that some of the best arrangements are the ones that you don't make.