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[Large Ess]

I have had numerous Sb's using HG's strategy and payment schedule. Mostly AA's but some Latina's and one white woman in her thirties who had just a god given rack but was crazy so I said I found a girlfriend. Another young cutie who was really horny and agreed to me giving her a sensual massage and eating her out for $. She got soaking wet from the massage and I was hoping to move into FC but she kept her wits about her. The range of attractiveness has been from 4 to two honest to goodness 10's. Now, the 10's were one time things because once out of the situation, they wanted more $$. But it is a turn on for the unjaded young woman to go on this adventure, especially if you handle it right. I in my mid fifties, perhaps good looking enough but not in shape (I keep trying because I know I would reap the rewards.) I have two very important things going for me: I don't act creepy in the slightest and I know how to go down on a woman. I have a mid thirties White woman willing to meet me for no $ . At one point I had three AA women that never asked me for $. Two whom I still see. One is very cute. One is very sweet. Both have excellent skills and are open to anything I want. Do I get turned down a lot? Yes. The price point is a challenge. But I think anyone can get what they want on the site provided they have the capital. I don't find many of the white women on the site that attractive. I have always been attracted to Latinas and African American women. I don't mind bigger women because I have found they are amazing lovers. If I could afford to date Asians and Caucasians, I would pursue them. I have sent messages to Asian women on the site and they never respond. It sucks but I don't have a remedy. Perhaps getting in shape would change their outlook. Maybe they can tell, I don't have the capital. When a POT responds with shock, anger, or incredulousness at my offer, I either politely wish her good luck or if she is really desirable, will ask what is her price point for continuing. MOST times, this doesn't work because she is already insulted. The utr's will respond and usually it's around the $$ mark. The ones who are thinking about $$ and beyond, I have no interest in.

[HollywoodGuy]

Why 22? What have you noticed is the difference between under / over 22? And are the ages that girls are posting accurate or are they all lying to seem younger?

Thanks.

The older they are the more cash they want. With the younger girls they sometimes lie to appear older. Always ask if they have ID before you even meet them. I have ditched over 2 dozen girls that could not produce an ID. No more will be said about that and please don't ask.

[Blarharse]

You must be hella smoother than me. - probably

Well can you give me a lead or something a link to one of these unicorn chicks? - no

How about that white girl. - no

My membership is almost up and haven't heard from a single chick who was even willing to email me. - Message 100 girls, talk like a guy that used to getting laid, say you pay $$$ for an hour or more of their time. Take them to email or txt to spell it out. This should get you laid for the next 30 days about as often as you can handle it. Don't message anyone over 22.

Why 22? What have you noticed is the difference between under / over 22? And are the ages that girls are posting accurate or are they all lying to seem younger?

Thanks.

[HollywoodGuy]

You must be hella smoother than me. Well can you give me a lead or something a link to one of these unicorn chicks? How about that white girl. Come on I'm dying of blue balls over here, I'll take anything so long as she's thin. Bro my membership is almost up and haven't heard from a single chick who was even willing to email me off site, nothing but game players, not one of them had any follow through with anything.

You must be hella smoother than me. - probably

Well can you give me a lead or something a link to one of these unicorn chicks? - no

How about that white girl. - no

My membership is almost up and haven't heard from a single chick who was even willing to email me. - Message 100 girls, talk like a guy that used to getting laid, say you pay $$$ for an hour or more of their time. Take them to email or txt to spell it out. This should get you laid for the next 30 days about as often as you can handle it. Don't message anyone over 22

[City Slicker]

Thanks for the advice. I'm totally willing to spend 3-4 for a cute lady if she's really in her early 20's. At max, I might go 5, but no higher. Two more questions, if you don't mind:

(1) Why is it so time-consuming? Aren't the SB's also trying to minimize the time commitment?

(2) Do all SB's understand that the first meeting is PPM? Or is the first meeting typically just a meet-and-greet for the two people to eyeball each other in person and make sure that each is cool with the other?

Thanks again!

1) Several emails or chat before moving into serious commitment. Those that was to meet immediately are pros so I try to avoid them. UTR are usually slower to want to meet and looking for safely (connection).

2) don't discuss price on email or chat on SA. Always do it via text if $ figures are involved or you will be ban.

[Dog Rice]

Pretty much the similar experience I had, plus too many pros. Thats why I retired from the bowl now. Just dealing with AMP and escorts. Mainly AMP since it is much more convenience. Too much time and hazard dealing with SB unfortunately.

Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.

I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.

[GoodBoy88]

And yes sometimes I do get a latina or asian, those are the ones that just fall into my lap as I do not court them. Because if a girl favorites me, about half the time I will respond back even if she isn't AA.

You must be hella smoother than me. Well can you give me a lead or something a link to one of these unicorn chicks? How about that white girl. Come on I'm dying of blue balls over here, I'll take anything so long as she's thin. Bro my membership is almost up and haven't heard from a single chick who was even willing to email me off site, nothing but game players, not one of them had any follow through with anything.

[HollywoodGuy]

That seems to be the case. I know HG usually scores AA but I also recall HG saying he was scoring more than just AA for $ range (he mentioned Latina and other races or maybe I'm really mistaken?), that is where I got the idea that it might work for me as well, it didn't though. For me the absolute floor has been $400 for non-AA, but my preference is slender girls so I wouldn't even consider contacting anyone chubby. I don't like thick girls even if the price was free.

And yes sometimes I do get a latina or asian, those are the ones that just fall into my lap as I do not court them. Because if a girl favorites me, about half the time I will respond back even if she isn't AA.

[HollywoodGuy]

Have you not seen and read what HG's preferences are? He loves AA ladies and makes no bones about it. I was in LA back in the fall on business and scored a chubby, but fun, white girl for $200. So, they are out there.

I am sure if I spent the time to target the white girls I would get them. Not as much for $ but for sure at $$. And the black girls that want $$ ... OMG they are super fine. But they will just have to keep waiting. I do have one white girl right now that I had to turn down due to her lack of being able to produce a picture ID. She says she will do that in a few weeks when she gets around to it. All I know is she txts me a few times a day. If she does produce the ID I will let you all know what happens.

[GoodBoy88]

This. It's very obvious that HG's low PPM stories are extremely skewed by the fact that the vast majority of the ones he meets are AA (and he is upfront about this). For the rest of us who don't necessarily have that racial preference, the approximate price ranges are:

Latina: 200+.

Whites and Asians: 300+.

You can adjust these levels up and down a bit depending on how hot the girl is and how good-looking / non-creepy you are, but the absolute floor is usually 200 for any non-AA girl.

That seems to be the case. I know HG usually scores AA but I also recall HG saying he was scoring more than just AA for $ range (he mentioned Latina and other races or maybe I'm really mistaken?), that is where I got the idea that it might work for me as well, it didn't though. For me the absolute floor has been $400 for non-AA, but my preference is slender girls so I wouldn't even consider contacting anyone chubby. I don't like thick girls even if the price was free.

[Stolper]

Have you not seen and read what HG's preferences are? He loves AA ladies and makes no bones about it. I was in LA back in the fall on business and scored a chubby, but fun, white girl for $200. So, they are out there.

This. It's very obvious that HG's low PPM stories are extremely skewed by the fact that the vast majority of the ones he meets are AA (and he is upfront about this). For the rest of us who don't necessarily have that racial preference, the approximate price ranges are:

Latina: 200+.

Whites and Asians: 300+.

You can adjust these levels up and down a bit depending on how hot the girl is and how good-looking / non-creepy you are, but the absolute floor is usually 200 for any non-AA girl.

[Blarharse]

Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.

I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.

Will you please post a few links with some rates that you heard? I would love to get a feeling for $ vs. Looks as I begin to swim out in these waters. If you're really hearing $1 K from any of these non-pros, I'll be shocked. That is really a fuckton of cash for an hour, especially if they're also expecting us to cover transport and hotel.

Also, are you hearing the $ from them in pre-meeting online conversations or do I have to go have dinner with one of them before she drops the number?

Thanks very much for the intel!

[TravelinSD]

Have you not seen and read what HG's preferences are? He loves AA ladies and makes no bones about it. I was in LA back in the fall on business and scored a chubby, but fun, white girl for $200. So, they are out there.

Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.

I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.

[GoodBoy88]

Word of advice is take your time to surf the pages for a few days to get familiar with the girls. Don't rush into any arrangement or send $ without meet. Once you play the game a bit then you will see it is not that easy and very time consuming. I dnt know where Hollywood guy is able to find $100 girls but the lowest I've encountered at $200 and it was a quicky. The norm is 300-600 and they are very pretty and non-pro who you can enjoy for a couple of hours. Good luck and happy hunting!

Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.

I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.

[Blarharse]

Word of advice is take your time to surf the pages for a few days to get familiar with the girls. Don't rush into any arrangement or send $ without meet. Once you play the game a bit then you will see it is not that easy and very time consuming. I dnt know where Hollywood guy is able to find $100 girls but the lowest I've encountered at $200 and it was a quicky. The norm is 300-600 and they are very pretty and non-pro who you can enjoy for a couple of hours. Good luck and happy hunting!

Thanks for the advice. I'm totally willing to spend 3-4 for a cute lady if she's really in her early 20's. At max, I might go 5, but no higher. Two more questions, if you don't mind:

(1) Why is it so time-consuming? Aren't the SB's also trying to minimize the time commitment?

(2) Do all SB's understand that the first meeting is PPM? Or is the first meeting typically just a meet-and-greet for the two people to eyeball each other in person and make sure that each is cool with the other?

Thanks again!