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  1. #25673
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    Posts: 2129
    Quote Originally Posted by Oeddeo  [View Original Post]
    As soon as the cops linked him to "sex slavery" people looked at Kraft like a modern day slave owner. So to answer your question; yes, people see what we do as disgusting.
    The "modern day slave owner" line has been used against NFL owners in general before this.

  2. #25672

    Bomb scare

    Quote Originally Posted by BostonMan781  [View Original Post]
    This is a federal changeover going on instead of providers the government is going after Johns. You can see this across many cities the past year or so.
    Am I reading this right. They used a bomb scare, and who is they. Maybe I'm mistaken but isn't that considered a terrorist act?

    Terrorizing people with the notion that a bomb might go off in the building just so the can go in an install cameras!

    That is pathetic.

  3. #25671

    Disgusting and pathetic

    Quote Originally Posted by JimMack  [View Original Post]
    I'm surprised at people's reaction to him visiting a massage parlor and probably getting a happy ending. Do people that what we do is really that disgusting?
    I'm pretty open about it with male friends and they'll make a reference or joke about it in front of women and they're disgusted and think it's pathetic to varying degrees. They give me a pass on it because they like me personally but it's taken me down a notch in some of their eyes at least for a while. I know a couple of European women but it makes zero difference to them.

    Sadly, people believe the mainstream medias take on this like they do on other topics, despite their ignorant, dishonest, biased and misleading coverage on virtually every topic. They believe that anyone giving an orgasm for money has been forced to do it through violence, threats and coercion. They don't know that's it's just a way for a woman with no education to make hundreds or a thousand dollars a day, cash, instead of a few hundred dollars a week.

    The authorities are just as bad, manipulating the situation for budgetary purposes. If a place gets busted, the women have two options, admit to willingly committing illegal acts and face punishment or say you were forced to do it and face no or lesser punishment. This forces them to say they're being forced to do it, which pads the numbers and makes everyone a victim, which gains the support of the public and keeps the budget dollars coming.

    There is real trafficking going on, including legitimate kidnapping and minors being involved, all of which is terrible and should be stopped, but those numbers are minuscule compared to the willing participants of the sex industry as a whole.

  4. #25670
    Quote Originally Posted by JimMack  [View Original Post]
    I'm surprised at people's reaction to him visiting a massage parlor and probably getting a happy ending. Do people that what we do is really that disgusting?
    When people are told it was a rub and tug, most reactions I've read were how stupid it is and how it should be legal.

    The media also knows this and places like deadspin (super anti-Patriots), so they are really trying to push the trafficking aspect of it. Nobody supports trafficking, including mongers. However, there is no smear campaign against the hated Patriots if they just said he got a happy ending.

    There is zero chance Kraft or anyone visiting that place or any AMP does so to support trafficking. They're probably aware that it happens in the general hemisphere of the industry, but that's not much different than buying weed before it was legal. I didn't like the fact that the weed I bought may have blood on it (figuratively), but I also didn't like the government restricting my freedom over a harmless act.

    Now that it's legal, I buy from local growers. Would be same with prostitution. I'd happily go to a place I know is 100% willing and happy to do it.

  5. #25669

    Kraft Dboy.

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAnonymus  [View Original Post]
    I bet he's DBoy.
    I'm krafts grandson. Derek Bobby Kraft. Dboy. And I love huge tits.

  6. #25668
    Quote Originally Posted by JimMack  [View Original Post]
    I'm surprised at people's reaction to him visiting a massage parlor and probably getting a happy ending. Do people that what we do is really that disgusting?
    As soon as the cops linked him to "sex slavery" people looked at Kraft like a modern day slave owner. So to answer your question; yes, people see what we do as disgusting.

    I think you're wrong, I think a minority think that but they are vocal, I don't think most people give a shit.

    A2

  7. #25667
    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    He's worth almost 7 billion dollars. 10 k is a nickel or dime to the average guy.
    I don't think it's a matter of money for him. What his options are? Hiring a high end escort directly is quite risky as any American provider (at least, some of them) would recognize him. Doing it through an agency is also problematic for the same reason. He would set himself up for the possibility of never ending blackmail, paying a lot of hush money. And we are not talking about tens of thousands of dollars here -- much, much more. Going to the AMPs seems to be the safest option for people like him. Thus, Bernie Madoff, a billionaire crook from NYC, frequented massage parlors in Manhattan as well. The peasant Chinese or Korean girls have no idea who Kraft is, they look good, and f-k well. He was, probably, going to parlors for decades without any problems at all. Too bad (for him), somebody decided to set him up. By the way, he is local, he was born in Brookline and grew up there. He definitely knows a lot about parlors in Bostonian suburbs. I wonder what his handle on this board is.

  8. #25666

    Kraft bust

    I'm surprised at people's reaction to him visiting a massage parlor and probably getting a happy ending. Do people that what we do is really that disgusting?

  9. #25665
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro4  [View Original Post]
    They did. They used a fake bomb scare to evacuate the spa then installed them.

    Over six months they investigated the spa and used the info from traffic stops on men leaving the spa and a health inspection noting that it appeared women were living in the spa to build a human trafficking case and get a warrant to install the cameras. Then they evacuated the place for the bomb scare and installed the cameras. Observed the cameras for 5 days and then started issuing arrest warrants for the men in the videos.
    This is a federal changeover going on instead of providers the government is going after Johns. You can see this across many cities the past year or so.

  10. #25664

    10 k

    Quote Originally Posted by Adobe  [View Original Post]
    You may be right. But you don't get to become a billionaire by spending $10,000 for an hour with a provider when you can get an anonymous HE for $60. He's not the first rich guy to get caught in an MP sting, but at least his name wasn't on some high class Madam's hard drive. And a desperate escort might snap a pic of him with her cellphone. A masseuse in an.

    MP wouldn't know that he was rich enough to bother taking a picture of.
    He's worth almost 7 billion dollars. 10 k is a nickel or dime to the average guy.

  11. #25663

    Does Kraft RTFF?

    I bet he's DBoy.

  12. #25662

    McDonald's Aphrodisiac

    Sounds, You're joke is actually a funny no joke. About 3 weeks ago, I tried one of the Asian incall girls for a repeat visit. She asked me to bring her food. She specifically wanted a McDonald's cheeseburger and Chicken Nuggets. I complied and bought it to the hotel session. McDonald's worked wonders, I got some great uninhibited action from her.

    Funny, I dropped her off to change hotels as part of their hotel-jumping routine. She was absolutely thrilled when we pulled up and there was a large Chinese Restaurant right next to the hotel. So, I saw her for a threepeat visit after that jaunt. You guessed it, the kindness paid off with her providing multiple favors for me in return.

    I could not have done it all without WeChat though. She can speak the universal FS language, but hardly a word of English.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sounds  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes you get tired of fine dining and just want McDonald's.

  13. #25661

    Kraft

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro4  [View Original Post]
    They did. They used a fake bomb scare to evacuate the spa then installed them.

    Over six months they investigated the spa and used the info from traffic stops on men leaving the spa and a health inspection noting that it appeared women were living in the spa to build a human trafficking case and get a warrant to install the cameras. Then they evacuated the place for the bomb scare and installed the cameras. Observed the cameras for 5 days and then started issuing arrest warrants for the men in the videos.
    This is Goodell!

  14. #25660
    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenesbarrel  [View Original Post]
    The recent news about Kraft has me wondering. He got caught up in a months long trafficking investigation. Is that going on here in MA? Many of these girls come through for two weeks and then back to Queens.

    Are we blissfully ignorant or should we know more?
    Martha Coakley did an interview on channel 5 where she said investigations like that are happening here in Mass. LE is becoming allot more aggressive.

  15. #25659
    Senior Member


    Posts: 317
    Quote Originally Posted by TheIceGuy  [View Original Post]
    Was going to hit up an AMP soon but after today, second thoughts. No clue how they can bust him unless they had video cams set up in the rooms.
    They did. They used a fake bomb scare to evacuate the spa then installed them.

    Over six months they investigated the spa and used the info from traffic stops on men leaving the spa and a health inspection noting that it appeared women were living in the spa to build a human trafficking case and get a warrant to install the cameras. Then they evacuated the place for the bomb scare and installed the cameras. Observed the cameras for 5 days and then started issuing arrest warrants for the men in the videos.

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