Massage Parlor Reports

[Area Gentleman]

No, not that kind (.)(.). The bad kind. I'd be interested in opinions from you guys out there with legal expertise. Will post this on several other boards around state.

Presumably, the mega-wealthy Kraft has the best legal team money can buy. Is it possible that local authorities are having an "Oh Shit!" experience as they conjure up the possibility of facing a high-powered legal onslaught? Maybe not. But, with thousand dollar per hour (or whatever they get) people figuring out ways to overcome this clusterfuck for their guy, is it conceivable that a determination would be made that the whole thing gets thrown out due to citizen privacy rights getting trampled, extreme bias or other factors (which I know nothing about)? And if that were the case, could it result in the opposite of intended effect by making it less likely that LE would execute similar operations? Maybe even make it unconstitutional to bug a massage therapy client room? It would be pretty amazing if LE landed a fish so big that it sinks their boat.

-AG.

[DJMiles]

Had a legit shoulder problem Monday from moving and building furniture for a friend. For years I have seen Cindy's ads and tried to hook up but never worked it out. This week, the communication was better and I set up an hour.

Her studio is really cool. Retro, nice vibe with a 1990's bose radio providing tunes. Cindy, as others have said, looks nothing like her photos. She's a little heavier and a bit older. She asked if I wanted a shower. I just had one so I declined, which may have been a mistake.

Good massage, she focused on legs. I didn't mention my shoulder. It's been my experince that if you mention pain, a good LMT will stay away for liability reasons. Maybe because of the lack of shower, it was only 45 minutes start to finish. I felt better but not like a LMT worked out things.

No extras were offered nor did it feel any time like they were forthcoming. The $ fee was paid up front and I didn't tip. It was a short massage, although a good one, and was a bit overpriced in my opinion. Here's my take:

Cindy is super nice and I would think about going back for legit massage. That said, she's about 0. 3 overpriced for a legit one hour massage that has the extra sketch factor of old school massage parlor. Cocoa Beach Health and fitness offers a much better sports massage for similar money and a legit location.

Maybe I had a bad vibe. As I said, Cindy is a great person, but I think it's a tough business model to straddle the line between legit and posting on the usual sites.

Perhaps this is more easily explained now? Possibly she'd been given a head-up by a "leaking" client.

[Cutter56]

Mind describing her? How old was she? Want to see if it's worth the drive.

Sorry EastDragon, I didn't see this post. She is small, small breast, pretty face. Tight in all the right places.

[SunDog321]

Cameras were already in place. They used the existing security system footage for the busts. If this is all what they are saying, the owners kept pretty tight control.

At the presser in IRC, the VBPD Chief and IRC Sheriff flat out said they obtained surveillance warrants from a judge to install hidden cameras in the shops. So they may have also seized the shops footage or tapped into it as well as you suggested.

IRC Sheriff also hinted they used other means of surveillance but refused to go into detail when asked.

I'd bet a dollar, they had multiple cameras in the parking lots, as well as Stingrays deployed at each shop to capture your cell phone I'd and number from your cell phone, and that stuff of course is logged and time stamped.

[ScottyM3]

Robert Kraft, you just won Super Bowl LIII, what are you going to tell your players and staff. "HEY EVERYBODY, WE'RE GOING TO ORCHID SPA, WE'RE ALL going to GET LAID. ".

[BeachBum15]

The repercussions are already spreading far and wide and likely will affect all of FL for months to come. This one calculated bust will slow down and in some cases close down many shops as most of us will head for safe ground. The camera angle alone was evil genius on LEOs part as now all of use will wonder and be suspicious. Either of the police or the owners. Suspicion and fear of something like a tiny recording device will keep many away from the more fun spots. Big win for the legit parlors but those too will clamp down on any under the table favors. I really don't think this is the end of it. The targets seem to be those shops known for FS menus so Orlando might be next. But then I can't help but think places like BO and GG are well known establishments. I'll stick to UTR sites for the foreseeable future and watch and wait for the dust to settle. From now on I'll be looking any room over closely. Stay safe and stay out of the news.

[CoochieMac]

Well if LEO used their own camera's it's quite easy actually to put them in a room. When I go to Zen, and others, I go in, pay the door fee, then the girl leaves the room to give mamasan the money. In that short of time I'm sure they could possibly get their own camera installed in a short time. Or they hacked in to the spa's camera system. As far as making a deal with the owners for use of their cams, I kind of doubt that as many owners were "reported" arrested. But hey, we'll never really know.

TMZ reports a worker at Orchid assisted with camera. Also no vaginal sex recorded. Only hh and bjs.

[ScottyM3]

Cameras were already in place. They used the existing security system footage for the busts. If this is all what they are saying, the owners kept pretty tight control.

Well if LEO used their own camera's it's quite easy actually to put them in a room. When I go to Zen, and others, I go in, pay the door fee, then the girl leaves the room to give mamasan the money. In that short of time I'm sure they could possibly get their own camera installed in a short time. Or they hacked in to the spa's camera system. As far as making a deal with the owners for use of their cams, I kind of doubt that as many owners were "reported" arrested. But hey, we'll never really know.

[Peter North 9]

Several good questions arise.

1st, in news articles, the police claim the girls actually lived at the parlors, could not leave without supervision.

How did under cover install cameras in side a "room" ? Perhaps, the "therapist " left the room for a few minutes, with modern tech, no wires would be needed and micro camera could be hidden in a non conspicuous spot.

Which Parlor did Pat's Owner visit? Police are not saying (at this time).

How did he (Pat's Owner) get there? Most billionaires have chauffeur AND have employees sign NDAs (Non disclosure agreements).

If a crime, or potential crime is accused, any NDA is null and void. Therefore the chauffeur would be force to testify, cooperate with law enforcement.

Which poses a 3rd question. WHY, with that kind of $ $ $ $, would you not order outcall?

4th Question. With all the trouble his very good friend, POTUS is in (for sexual indiscretions), you would think he may have been a bit more cautious?

Glad I did not visit a "relief " station last fall, while vacationing in South Florida (LOL).

Jamesj.

Cameras were already in place. They used the existing security system footage for the busts. If this is all what they are saying, the owners kept pretty tight control.

[Hodar]

My biggest concern is how where the cameras installed and who installed them. Was it a trade out between owners and police ("You let us install cameras and we won't arrest you or close you down" or did the police install them without the knowledge of the owners, or what?

P.S. The NE Pats owner was charged with two counts of soliciting for prostitution. By the way, he has his chauffeur drive him to the spa! <g .

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-en...d-prostitution

This may be why one of the popular spas inOrlando has been shut down. I don't understand how heir anyone can be charged unless there was a hidden camera & in the massage room or corroborated evidence from a therapist. I think this may be the end for AMPs. I know I will not be visiting any of them at least not until the law enforcement priorities shift away. I have too much to lose. I'll stick with USA classifieds.

[FLHobbyMan]

According to an article in today's Florida Today, they said cameras were installed in rooms of the parlors. A few cops went in for massages and when it came time for the flip they were offered sexual favors anywhere from. 4 to $$. When that happened the cop said, oh I don't have enough on me, I'll be right back. Never came back. One girl actually ask him, are you a cop? I think they actually stopped guys leaving the parlors and busted them there. They followed owners transporting girls from one AMP to another. Even put a tracker on one owners car. So It seems that I may not be visiting my usual AMP'S in the cumming days, weeks or months just to lay low for a while. Oh and BTW, They started the sting back in Sept or Oct last year. As always, Play and stay safe.

I'm sure these headlines will soon include Brevard. You know that good ole Wayne also wants to get in on the action and get his face in front of the camera.

[Jamesj]

My biggest concern is how where the cameras installed and who installed them. Was it a trade out between owners and police ("You let us install cameras and we won't arrest you or close you down" or did the police install them without the knowledge of the owners, or what?

P.S. The NE Pats owner was charged with two counts of soliciting for prostitution. By the way, he has his chauffeur drive him to the spa!.

Several good questions arise.

1st, in news articles, the police claim the girls actually lived at the parlors, could not leave without supervision.

How did under cover install cameras in side a "room" ? Perhaps, the "therapist " left the room for a few minutes, with modern tech, no wires would be needed and micro camera could be hidden in a non conspicuous spot.

Which Parlor did Pat's Owner visit? Police are not saying (at this time).

How did he (Pat's Owner) get there? Most billionaires have chauffeur AND have employees sign NDAs (Non disclosure agreements).

If a crime, or potential crime is accused, any NDA is null and void. Therefore the chauffeur would be force to testify, cooperate with law enforcement.

Which poses a 3rd question. WHY, with that kind of $ $ $ $, would you not order outcall?

4th Question. With all the trouble his very good friend, POTUS is in (for sexual indiscretions), you would think he may have been a bit more cautious?

Glad I did not visit a "relief " station last fall, while vacationing in South Florida (LOL).

Jamesj.

[NoLongerLurker]

OMFG, I'm watching the noon news at the moment. They just mentioned that the NE Pats owner was arrested in that sting down south. Dayum. Chit is hitting the fan.

My biggest concern is how where the cameras installed and who installed them. Was it a trade out between owners and police ("You let us install cameras and we won't arrest you or close you down" or did the police install them without the knowledge of the owners, or what?

P.S. The NE Pats owner was charged with two counts of soliciting for prostitution. By the way, he has his chauffeur drive him to the spa! <g .

[ScottyM3]

According to an article in today's Florida Today, they said cameras were installed in rooms of the parlors. A few cops went in for massages and when it came time for the flip they were offered sexual favors anywhere from. 4 to $$. When that happened the cop said, oh I don't have enough on me, I'll be right back. Never came back. One girl actually ask him, are you a cop? I think they actually stopped guys leaving the parlors and busted them there. They followed owners transporting girls from one AMP to another. Even put a tracker on one owners car. So It seems that I may not be visiting my usual AMP'S in the cumming days, weeks or months just to lay low for a while. Oh and BTW, They started the sting back in Sept or Oct last year. As always, Play and stay safe.

OMFG, I'm watching the noon news at the moment. They just mentioned that the NE Pats owner was arrested in that sting down south. Dayum. Chit is hitting the fan.

[ScottyM3]

Yeah I was wondering myself how they got that many johns at one time. I assume they couldn't have went back to people who visited previously?

According to an article in today's Florida Today, they said cameras were installed in rooms of the parlors. A few cops went in for massages and when it came time for the flip they were offered sexual favors anywhere from. 4 to $$. When that happened the cop said, oh I don't have enough on me, I'll be right back. Never came back. One girl actually ask him, are you a cop? I think they actually stopped guys leaving the parlors and busted them there. They followed owners transporting girls from one AMP to another. Even put a tracker on one owners car. So It seems that I may not be visiting my usual AMP'S in the cumming days, weeks or months just to lay low for a while. Oh and BTW, They started the sting back in Sept or Oct last year. As always, Play and stay safe.