Arrangement Reports

[GoodVibesAll]

Would you feel comfortable if they are willing to meet for dinner first? These girls are fine meeting for coffee or dinner to discuss arrangement.

You could always put a small gopro type camera in the room, and if you are robbed you could use the video to your advantage.

I'm not saying call the police, but you do have evidence. Sometimes, but rarely, reverse number searches work. Or, you could text her the portion of the video with the evidence.

((I had to call the cops on a hooker once in Ohio, she left a message on my answering machine trying to extort money out of me (she had my license plate number). The fool left her name and phone number on the machine. The cop was actually really nice (the encounter never actually happened, I got as far as the motel parking lot and felt uncomfortable, plus it was just over the Michigan line), and SHE called the ***** back and really reamed her.)).

[Eternalchaoz]

Better safe than sorry.

If they can take down mr Kraft they can take you down.

I once had a lady show up to my hotel room in Detroit one night w / her friend. I was in an embassy suite so there was a separate bedroom. They insisted I let her stay good thing I didn't let them in he room. After some words I told them as far as I was concerned they knocked on my door trying to get in.

Oh they also offered a 3 some.

Nope. A few weeks later a guy I knew through a now defunked site told me a guy got robbed my someone that seemed like my date.

Would you feel comfortable if they are willing to meet for dinner first? These girls are fine meeting for coffee or dinner to discuss arrangement.

[Trogon]

I am trying to get just her at the moment. She is smoking hot, and so is her blonde friend, just a bit worried some type of scam. They are near Algonquin area.

Better safe than sorry.

If they can take down mr Kraft they can take you down.

I once had a lady show up to my hotel room in Detroit one night w / her friend. I was in an embassy suite so there was a separate bedroom. They insisted I let her stay good thing I didn't let them in he room. After some words I told them as far as I was concerned they knocked on my door trying to get in.

Oh they also offered a 3 some.

Nope. A few weeks later a guy I knew through a now defunked site told me a guy got robbed my someone that seemed like my date.

[Eternalchaoz]

If you don't know one of the girls really well I wouldn't do it. Having two girls to play with is great. If you don't know one or both of the girls a threesome could go south really fast. No matter how gorgeous both girls look. This girl insists her friend join you and this girl? Um, No way.

I am trying to get just her at the moment. She is smoking hot, and so is her blonde friend, just a bit worried some type of scam. They are near Algonquin area.

[Randolph]

I had some message interaction with her. When it got down to setting the meet she said she wants to date / dinner / travel. Sorry dear. Not for me. Time to move along.

Randolph.

Following up on my other post. Couple here that are definitely pros:

Babybella_95.

https://www.seeking.com/member/80ae6...d-c2c9fc9c393f

Met with her admitted that she's done some private porn work in the past. Talked for like 15 min in a coffee shop before coming to an arrangement and heading to my place. She texts me every now and again, but goes dark with no reply when I say that my funds are low.

Gabby8318.

https://www.seeking.com/member/53eac...d-84fae9529b4b

Definitely a pro, regularly works with a rather well-known agency. Went dark when I said that I preferred a PPM after she had asked for a monthly one.

Chicagos.

https://www.seeking.com/member/885e7...f-7db6868cf8ad

She's been talked about before. Won't admit that she's a pro, but she is. Never actually met because her messages throw off a weird vibe, but whenever she's low on cash, she hits me up and tries again to set up a meeting.

[Truthfu11]

Steam,

Totally true and wise words.

Yes, it is easy to call an escort where both of you are explicit about what YOU want, exchange her service for your cash and be on your way.

It is a lot different to have enough game to finesse the relationship to get what you want in exchange for what she wants. It might be about the cash, but it also about the intimacy, feeling wanted and desired, exploring new things (kink / taboo ideas), and ability to connect with someone on more than a transnational level.

I, for one, get a lot of pleasure at being good at this type of game and interchange.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Setting up an arrangement just takes a different mindset than hiring an escort.

Yes, there are plenty of pros that are on SA, some are obvious agency girls who are looking for side business, or want to find their own unicorn that allows them some more financial freedom for less effort than taking a bunch of appointments every day. But others are girls who consider themselves non-pros who haven't ever advertised as an escort before. They want to get paid for hanging out or sleeping with guys that have money who they find moderately attractive. It really is a dating site where the expectation is that there's likely going to be a price associated with the relationship. Personally, I've seen several girls from SA over the years. Some who are up front and tell me how much they expect per meet or per month, and others who I've managed to see and sleep with repeatedly where the only price was a nice dinner with a bottle of wine.

The key is knowing what you want and being able to read the cues that a girl will put in her profile. I've found that the girls who are solely focused on money and gifts tend to have shorter profiles, or have tagged them with things like "Luxury Lifestyle. " The girls who want relationships with older successful men tend to have longer profiles and they read more like you'd find on a regular dating site. The ones who are really "escorts" and want money, but are in denial about exchanging their bodies for cash will very quickly respond with questions about what you can offer as far as an allowance. Those who want the relationship will chat with you more like someone you met on match.com.

If you want more of the transactional experience with girls on SA, you just need to be able to make them feel confident that you will be able to provide for them. They're on SA because they want regular income from "wealthy" men. If they think you're likely to be a one-and-done appointment with a pay-per-meet allowance, you're not going to get a lot of responses. So, even if your goal is to hook up with as many younger hotties as possible, you can't come across that way. And the ones who want relationships want to know that you're well-off financially because many are looking for someone with money to marry.

Either way, you have to adjust your approach and yes, it is more work than just calling an agency or texting a girl from a list. However, it can definitely be worth it, you just have to want to and enjoy playing a different type of game.

[SteamTrain98]

Following up on my other post. Couple here that are definitely pros:

Babybella_95.

https://www.seeking.com/member/80ae6...d-c2c9fc9c393f

Met with her admitted that she's done some private porn work in the past. Talked for like 15 min in a coffee shop before coming to an arrangement and heading to my place. She texts me every now and again, but goes dark with no reply when I say that my funds are low.

Gabby8318.

https://www.seeking.com/member/53eac...d-84fae9529b4b

Definitely a pro, regularly works with a rather well-known agency. Went dark when I said that I preferred a PPM after she had asked for a monthly one.

Chicagos.

https://www.seeking.com/member/885e7...f-7db6868cf8ad

She's been talked about before. Won't admit that she's a pro, but she is. Never actually met because her messages throw off a weird vibe, but whenever she's low on cash, she hits me up and tries again to set up a meeting.

[SteamTrain98]

Seems like S. A. Is a lot more trouble for very little or no reward.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Setting up an arrangement just takes a different mindset than hiring an escort.

Yes, there are plenty of pros that are on SA, some are obvious agency girls who are looking for side business, or want to find their own unicorn that allows them some more financial freedom for less effort than taking a bunch of appointments every day. But others are girls who consider themselves non-pros who haven't ever advertised as an escort before. They want to get paid for hanging out or sleeping with guys that have money who they find moderately attractive. It really is a dating site where the expectation is that there's likely going to be a price associated with the relationship. Personally, I've seen several girls from SA over the years. Some who are up front and tell me how much they expect per meet or per month, and others who I've managed to see and sleep with repeatedly where the only price was a nice dinner with a bottle of wine.

The key is knowing what you want and being able to read the cues that a girl will put in her profile. I've found that the girls who are solely focused on money and gifts tend to have shorter profiles, or have tagged them with things like "Luxury Lifestyle. " The girls who want relationships with older successful men tend to have longer profiles and they read more like you'd find on a regular dating site. The ones who are really "escorts" and want money, but are in denial about exchanging their bodies for cash will very quickly respond with questions about what you can offer as far as an allowance. Those who want the relationship will chat with you more like someone you met on match.com.

If you want more of the transactional experience with girls on SA, you just need to be able to make them feel confident that you will be able to provide for them. They're on SA because they want regular income from "wealthy" men. If they think you're likely to be a one-and-done appointment with a pay-per-meet allowance, you're not going to get a lot of responses. So, even if your goal is to hook up with as many younger hotties as possible, you can't come across that way. And the ones who want relationships want to know that you're well-off financially because many are looking for someone with money to marry.

Either way, you have to adjust your approach and yes, it is more work than just calling an agency or texting a girl from a list. However, it can definitely be worth it, you just have to want to and enjoy playing a different type of game.

[Pau Ford]

Seems like S. A. Is a lot more trouble for very little or no reward.

SA is definitely a hassle. But to say there's little or no reward would be 100% untrue.

[KingForAMonth]

It doesn't seem like much. Why would someone run a scam for $10-$15 but if you're doing this with 10 profiles in 10 cities and you're good at it I can see someone pull in $500+ a day tax free with maybe an hr worth of work. Then think about all the guys who give out real names and numbers and get blackmailed for cash in exchange for not sharing conversations and texts to the wife.

Exactly. And it seems like there shouldn't be enough stupid men out there to keep falling for this scam. But just using this forum as an example. There are five guys a week who, without reading a single post ask "do you have to pay for SA?" or "tell me about SA" which shows how many guys are unwilling to do the tiniest amount of research and just want to jump in lazily thinking it's an easy avenue to cheap tail. Those are the guys who the scammers feed on and it's kinda ok with me.

[GWheaton]

This one wants $800 per week to meet 1-2 times. I don't think it is worth it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/63eba...6-12e4c88d8b42

[GWheaton]

Sorry for separate reports but I am on my phone. This one is dtf but wants 550-600 per meet. I politely declined.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ee001...4-071ac42e3d69

[Jayp80]

You weren't talking to a girl. These are guys pretending to be girls using stolen pics to scam you. They create fake profiles on SA all the time using pics of girls that look legit. I talked to one of these guys. He flat out told me he made thousands of dollars a week doing this just by getting guys to send him small amounts of money for gas. If anybody on SA asks you to send them money first it's a scam. Just walk away. It's that simple.

It doesn't seem like much. Why would someone run a scam for $10-$15 but if you're doing this with 10 profiles in 10 cities and you're good at it I can see someone pull in $500+ a day tax free with maybe an hr worth of work. Then think about all the guys who give out real names and numbers and get blackmailed for cash in exchange for not sharing conversations and texts to the wife.

[Zimbler]

Anyway, set up a meet at a public place. It's about 45 minutes from her and she confirmed it with GPS on the address. Then she says she has no gas so she asked for $10.00 as a good faith gesture to show that I am real and not just going to waste her time. Set up to send and she asks for $15. No biggie on that as it's a small amount and considering the 45 minute drive, I had no problems with that. Established time arrives, she ghosts for 30 minutes. Then asks for a pic to show I am sincere that I am really there. I send a pic of me sitting there waiting. Nothing but dead silence. Nearly 2 hours later she reaches out and says she wasn't playing a game and that she did not get my pic so she thought I was the one playing a game. OK I sent her 15 and a picture of me sitting there waiting. Well obviously she is the one playing games because she was telling the other fake numbers we were using that she was in New Lenox when she was supposed to be coming from Tinley Park. Anyway, warning to all you guys. These scamming b*tches need to learn.

Her profile is.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ca006...8-7723e6bd93b3

Here are some pics of her. Number ends in 1894. Probably will change profiles and phone numbers after a while. Her profile above was started February 9 so that may be her 5th one. Stay safe boys! Pics also may have changed or will be changed.

You weren't talking to a girl. These are guys pretending to be girls using stolen pics to scam you. They create fake profiles on SA all the time using pics of girls that look legit. I talked to one of these guys. He flat out told me he made thousands of dollars a week doing this just by getting guys to send him small amounts of money for gas. If anybody on SA asks you to send them money first it's a scam. Just walk away. It's that simple.

[GoodVibesAll]

Every once in a while I decide to take a chance that a girl isn't a total f-ing scammer. Thought this one might be one. Reached out and fairly quick initial response. Later responses are very slow. Come to find out she has a lot of guys she messages with and that's probably why she is slow. My buddy and I hit her up with 4 fake numbers out of the blue and she never questioned any one of the numbers on how we got her digits.

Anyway, set up a meet at a public place. It's about 45 minutes from her and she confirmed it with GPS on the address. Then she says she has no gas so she asked for $10.00 as a good faith gesture to show that I am real and not just going to waste her time. Set up to send and she asks for $15. No biggie on that as it's a small amount and considering the 45 minute drive, I had no problems with that. Established time arrives, she ghosts for 30 minutes. Then asks for a pic to show I am sincere that I am really there. I send a pic of me sitting there waiting. Nothing but dead silence. Nearly 2 hours later she reaches out and says she wasn't playing a game and that she did not get my pic so she thought I was the one playing a game. OK I sent her 15 and a picture of me sitting there waiting. Well obviously she is the one playing games because she was telling the other fake numbers we were using that she was in New Lenox when she was supposed to be coming from Tinley Park. Anyway, warning to all you guys. These scamming b*tches need to learn.

Her profile is.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ca006...8-7723e6bd93b3

Here are some pics of her. Number ends in 1894. Probably will change profiles and phone numbers after a while. Her profile above was started February 9 so that may be her 5th one. Stay safe boys! Pics also may have changed or will be changed.

Report her to SA, they will boot her.