Massage Parlor Reports

[Mr Mike1952]

I am not a Robert Kraft fan but this whole thing reeks of politics. I too do not believe there is much coercion going on to convince older Chinese women to make extra $$ and give an HE. If the situation were reversed and they suspected forced labor in a spa serving women would they have placed cameras to film unsuspecting women half draped? There are many reports of foreign women being forced to perform manicures without pay to re-pay off travel debts. Are there multi agency task forces involved in busting these places? No because no one would be humiliated and that is the politicians goals. The FBI, and Homeland security need some easy wins and they got one. Now go after the born in America women that are being pimped out. Not so easy or safe to go after pimps with guns who are drugged out. Let's arrest some 60 year old 'Chinese nationals.

Clearly, the point of the Kraft charges is to scare customers away from these businesses.

I heard a report on NPR about the Jupiter arrests, and the so called experts talked about women being tricked into coming to the states and having to work off large loans for the transportation. I had the same thought you did: that this applies to nail salon workers as well. They talked as if they cared about the workers in these parlors. Which is more demeaning: cleaning dirty feet or stroking penises.

It sounds like Kraft was a big tipper.

[Member #6108]

I did two visits to Burnside. One Sun Night an one Mon morning. I arrived Sun in my 2014 Bentley with my driver. I noticed all the ladies spoke Chinese Manderin an handed them a Benjimin.

Gingerly hopped up on the table an noticed what I thought was a burned out light in the corner. Strange place for it but what. Me worry. Flip an another Bengimin Hey was that Tom in the other room? Not to worry off I went. Mon I had my driver use my 2015 Bentley. Nice to have a choice in cars an in ladies so I picked another Chinese delight. More Benjimins to cheer her up. What was that blinking in the ceiling I wondered? Never mind. No worry. I wondered why all these ladies were hired from a man in Queens. Never mind. No worry. Well I had to get home an pack for the trip to the big game. Hey was that Bill pulling into the strip mall parking lot? No can't be. He has to go to work tonight. Boy you can't beat a doubleheader at Burnside to get you ready for the big game. Just another day in the life. Any of you guys have good experiences like mine at Burnside recently?

[Rover777]

I agree. It is politics with the kraft deal. Setting an example. Big fish to fry, etc. However this whole "trafficking" push. I raise an eye brow. Maybe this is the case with this situation however I truly wonder. Not condoning trafficking at all, it is despicable but I do feel this was an easy win for these agencies to 'show off' and put themselves on the map so to speak. Granted if it is trafficking then so be it good job but I believe kraft set this in motion. Yes I know for a fact foreign females working doing nails and the such are forced to do that job with no pay because they need to pay off a debt yet we do not hear about any agency investigating this. Anyway the kraft deal has people talking about AMPs at the water cooler. Especially after a certain shock jock talked about AMPs yesterday apparently and how things work (it is not clear if they mentioned this site? For now seems to be a lot of focus and attention on "what happens at these spas" etc.

There have been rumors about the EH circuit and our 2 favorites but let us hope these are truly just "monger's overactive imagination". I personally have not seen some of the stuff others have said. Granted I had a very minor situation that probably was just coincidence so it probably was nothing. But please. Let us use common sense when going to our favorite establishments (and on public forums). I don't want to out certain mongers but I think it is pure common sense not to "loom around" an area for an hour or smoke in the lobby while you wait? Or tell shop owners you are waiting in line for a massage when they inquire why you are standing around BS'ing on your phone in the hallway. Double parking and causing a ruckus. I can go on but. Common sense please. LOL. But really. Do you guys honestly feel any of the AMPs around here put out that they are being forced to do their job?

[BigBang2]

I for one, will rethink future plans of visting AMPs. Still amazed someone like kraft and the other rich dudes would visit a strip mall AMP.

I have a condo not far from the place of incident, That's a very nice area with lots of money! Regardless of the area let's be real, go find druggies and pimps let people live their lives they are not committing crimes or causing issues.

[WishId]

I am not a Robert Kraft fan but this whole thing reeks of politics. I too do not believe there is much coercion going on to convince older Chinese women to make extra $$ and give an HE. If the situation were reversed and they suspected forced labor in a spa serving women would they have placed cameras to film unsuspecting women half draped? There are many reports of foreign women being forced to perform manicures without pay to re-pay off travel debts. Are there multi agency task forces involved in busting these places? No because no one would be humiliated and that is the politicians goals. The FBI, and Homeland security need some easy wins and they got one. Now go after the born in America women that are being pimped out. Not so easy or safe to go after pimps with guns who are drugged out. Let's arrest some 60 year old 'Chinese nationals.

I was kind of expecting more people to be freaking out about the news that there were cameras inside Robert Kraft's favorite spa in Orlando. You really have to feel for a 77 year old widower who is subjected to this kind of public humiliation.

The cameras were actually planted in the rooms. They reportedly show customers negotiating prices for "sex acts. ".

They wen to a lot of trouble to bust this place. First, there were neighbor complaints There were administrative governmental investigations that found violations with people living on the premises.

They monitored people coming in and out.

They used reviews on sites like this to get "probable cause" for a search warrant to place cameras in the rooms.

Finally, there was a phony story about a bomb threat. They evacuated the spa and planted the cameras while pretending to look for the bomb.

Which brings us around to some of our East Hartford venues. There may have been neighbor complaints, at least from the barber near Burnside. There have been Department of Labor investigations. There have been reports of someone watching the Burnside parking lot. But they don't get the opportunity to plant cameras without forcing evacuation of the place.

It is still important to be careful not to offend the neighbors. And I would try to avoid discussions of specific prices for specific acts.

And the question: what was going on there to attract so much attention and such a thorough investigation. The usual modus operandi is to send in undercover cops. Evacuating the place, planting cameras, this is a new level. What is the reason? Reports talk about an investigation of human trafficking. I do not get the impression that any of the masseuses in East Hartford are forced, at least not at Burnside or Silver Lane, which have been my normal haunts for the past couple years. But there are those who are ready to see human trafficking in almost any sex work of any kind.

So, is this the future of AMP investigations? Or just this one incstance?

[Kumail80]

I was kind of expecting more people to be freaking out about the news that there were cameras inside Robert Kraft's favorite spa in Orlando. You really have to feel for a 77 year old widower who is subjected to this kind of public humiliation.

The cameras were actually planted in the rooms. They reportedly show customers negotiating prices for "sex acts. ".

They wen to a lot of trouble to bust this place. First, there were neighbor complaints There were administrative governmental investigations that found violations with people living on the premises.

They monitored people coming in and out.

They used reviews on sites like this to get "probable cause" for a search warrant to place cameras in the rooms.

Finally, there was a phony story about a bomb threat. They evacuated the spa and planted the cameras while pretending to look for the bomb.

Which brings us around to some of our East Hartford venues. There may have been neighbor complaints, at least from the barber near Burnside. There have been Department of Labor investigations. There have been reports of someone watching the Burnside parking lot. But they don't get the opportunity to plant cameras without forcing evacuation of the place.

It is still important to be careful not to offend the neighbors. And I would try to avoid discussions of specific prices for specific acts.

And the question: what was going on there to attract so much attention and such a thorough investigation. The usual modus operandi is to send in undercover cops. Evacuating the place, planting cameras, this is a new level. What is the reason? Reports talk about an investigation of human trafficking. I do not get the impression that any of the masseuses in East Hartford are forced, at least not at Burnside or Silver Lane, which have been my normal haunts for the past couple years. But there are those who are ready to see human trafficking in almost any sex work of any kind.

So, is this the future of AMP investigations? Or just this one incstance?

I for one, will rethink future plans of visting AMPs. Still amazed someone like kraft and the other rich dudes would visit a strip mall AMP.

[BigBang2]

Just my opinion but current events involving Palm Beach Spas is highly uncalled for! This is what I cannot digest where they spend the time, money and effort to bust a rub and tug when crime just down the road is pathetic to say the least. Not to far Riviera Beach is screaming for help with crime and drugs, wake up people what are these idiots doing to us and What are we coming to, they are forcing most providers out on the street!

I asked an attorney friend if this is invasion of privacy and it all depends on warrants and how they are worded, so if that's the case if warranted they can put cameras in rest rooms. Sorry just venting here I need to re think things out next election, not pointing fingers but all these changes since the last election, correct me if I am wrong as I am seeing a blurr right now.

Just my opinion it's pathetic to bust a 77 YO man so petty!

[Mr Mike1952]

I was kind of expecting more people to be freaking out about the news that there were cameras inside Robert Kraft's favorite spa in Orlando. You really have to feel for a 77 year old widower who is subjected to this kind of public humiliation.

The cameras were actually planted in the rooms. They reportedly show customers negotiating prices for "sex acts. ".

They wen to a lot of trouble to bust this place. First, there were neighbor complaints There were administrative governmental investigations that found violations with people living on the premises.

They monitored people coming in and out.

They used reviews on sites like this to get "probable cause" for a search warrant to place cameras in the rooms.

Finally, there was a phony story about a bomb threat. They evacuated the spa and planted the cameras while pretending to look for the bomb.

Which brings us around to some of our East Hartford venues. There may have been neighbor complaints, at least from the barber near Burnside. There have been Department of Labor investigations. There have been reports of someone watching the Burnside parking lot. But they don't get the opportunity to plant cameras without forcing evacuation of the place.

It is still important to be careful not to offend the neighbors. And I would try to avoid discussions of specific prices for specific acts.

And the question: what was going on there to attract so much attention and such a thorough investigation. The usual modus operandi is to send in undercover cops. Evacuating the place, planting cameras, this is a new level. What is the reason? Reports talk about an investigation of human trafficking. I do not get the impression that any of the masseuses in East Hartford are forced, at least not at Burnside or Silver Lane, which have been my normal haunts for the past couple years. But there are those who are ready to see human trafficking in almost any sex work of any kind.

So, is this the future of AMP investigations? Or just this one incstance?

[ILiveOnTheW]

At first I thought they ment the lobby but today they say they have tape of the deed on 2 days. So my question to all. In any AMP in Ct have you noticed a camera in the lobby? Or in a room?

I would be out the door if I saw one.

Last year Royal had cams in the lobby. I was new. I thought it was normal but now I know better!

I have not been back since it was only a 50/50 shot of getting a HE.

[Westie6]

Not sure. I was there recently and saw Lilly and there was a new "voice" I heard outside the room but wasn't sure. They all do not speak English to each other. But my session was interrupted 2 x for some commotion outside. But I have never ever had to negotiate so this is really weird. It's always the same deal everytime I have gone. One thing to note was the last time I went I was draped. Something new. But other than that it's consistently good. I'm venturing to other establishments as I want to broden my horizons as well as there is a ton of speculation and hearsay and stories being made up now which raises my eye brow. I will say I have my own personal reasons for keeping my visits limited but I do want to make an observation that Burn has gotten way too busy. You regulars know it. So common sense must be excercised.

But this report is interesting. Again new person? Possibly but negotiation?! I only experienced that at the "Old Factory" and I never returned because of how rude they were. Plus poor experience and service.

Yeah I have no idea. Been coming here for quite awhile now and this was new. I will probably go back once more to check it out. It'll be unfortunate if they left. One of the few decent places around here.

[Rover777]

At first I thought they ment the lobby but today they say they have tape of the deed on 2 days. So my question to all. In any AMP in Ct have you noticed a camera in the lobby? Or in a room?

I would be out the door if I saw one.

Well "The 244" (not very well known here which is probably good) has many cams all over the place. I inquired as to why and was told it feeds to HQ Flushing NYC? Wow that made me feel odd. In the room noticed a vent above. Made me question.

The most talked about place here I swore they had 2 cams but I don't see them anymore? Please confirm guys. I thought there was one right as you enter and then another in the "dark area" before you enter a room. Another joint I went to I noticed a cam as well. Basically I found them to be there for security reasons AND to maybe watch the providers if you will when they are handling business outside a room. I have thought about vents in rooms with hidden cams, etc. But. I just figure no. But one of you mongers here I remember you said you actually looked in a vent (LOL) just to make sure and you saw nothing.

So. It is something to be very aware of in this day and age of tech.

[Member #6108]

Check out the news on this one guys. Seems like they had cameras in the massage parlor videotaping everything!

At first I thought they ment the lobby but today they say they have tape of the deed on 2 days. So my question to all. In any AMP in Ct have you noticed a camera in the lobby? Or in a room?

I would be out the door if I saw one.

[SlimShady132]

Check out the news on this one guys. Seems like they had cameras in the massage parlor videotaping everything!

If it happened to him it sure as hell can happen to you! Speaking from experience it's not fun luckily I was let off with a warning with no criminal background to speak of. I posted about it a few years ago and no one believed stay safe out there!

Slim.

[LuckyCT]

Check out the news on this one guys. Seems like they had cameras in the massage parlor videotaping everything!

[Rover777]

Decided to drop by on Sunday for a stress-free hour. Parking lot was fairly empty and went up the stairs and opened the door.

Was greeted by a petite woman (Eve / a) and did not see anyone else working. I thought it was odd that Nicole or Lily weren't there but paid for the hr. Asked for preference and said medium. Was going through the same routine I've come to expect but after 30 minutes?, the teasing began. It lasted quite awhile and got to the point were I was getting annoyed and just wanted to flip. Upon turning, more teasing and then asked if I wanted more. Said yes and she asked how much. I was already annoyed and add to the fact that she wanted more for the same service provided prior times was making me second guess the visit. Wanted. 6 but negotiated down to the standard but I would have tipped more at the end if she did well. Slightly above average release and opted for a TS at the end. Bid her goodbye at the door and now I'm debating to go to other places.

Not sure. I was there recently and saw Lilly and there was a new "voice" I heard outside the room but wasn't sure. They all do not speak English to each other. But my session was interrupted 2 x for some commotion outside. But I have never ever had to negotiate so this is really weird. It's always the same deal everytime I have gone. One thing to note was the last time I went I was draped. Something new. But other than that it's consistently good. I'm venturing to other establishments as I want to broden my horizons as well as there is a ton of speculation and hearsay and stories being made up now which raises my eye brow. I will say I have my own personal reasons for keeping my visits limited but I do want to make an observation that Burn has gotten way too busy. You regulars know it. So common sense must be excercised.

But this report is interesting. Again new person? Possibly but negotiation?! I only experienced that at the "Old Factory" and I never returned because of how rude they were. Plus poor experience and service.