General Reports

[Benz1]

What should the universal rates become? What could be better than striking is to keep a consistent amount on the table to get certain providers in line. Clearly services provided and performance will vary between girls.

60 ss100 hhr150 hr?

There are exceptions to this, Jane in holland, most MPs, Kandi, others. But what should the rule be? I'm not sure if the effort will actually push costs to a standard rate because there will always be people negotiating for less and others willing to pay more.

I'm waiting for Charlie441 to chime in here. Whatever he comes up with is still relative to service and without a string of good reviews her rate should stay at the starter rate until she gets (?) how many good reviews?

We will have to explain, you are new this is what I'm willing to pay? When you get 5 consistent good reviews we will give you a little raise.
This could be interesting if all of us agree to call the same girl using the same line on negotiations, If she does not fold we have to walk away or it won't work.

Nose Jelly is right, put them in the kiosk and end negotiations.
When she agrees we can put her in the Kiosk, letting everyone else know that she is price friendly and willing to work for her money. That would be a big bonus for her and us. BTW I've been doing these negotiations for a long time, occasionally passing the savings to Frenz of Benz. We will be creating a list all together instead of individually.

I'll start with Becca and a bonus pic for everyone. BBBJ/ ws Short stay 50, hhr 80 hr 120 Becca is number 1 in the kiosk

[ChipCharger]

What should the universal rates become? What could be better than striking is to keep a consistent amount on the table to get certain providers in line. Clearly services provided and performance will vary between girls.

60 ss100 hhr150 hr?

There are exceptions to this, Jane in holland, most MPs, Kandi, others. But what should the rule be? I'm not sure if the effort will actually push costs to a standard rate because there will always be people negotiating for less and others willing to pay more.

Yes. As far as I can see, that is about right. Some will be more, some less, depending on service, appeal, history, etc. Good point, not sure a certain parameter has been set! That is about what I was thinking but. Good to set those standards.

[WayneJWorld]

In terms of a strike or attempt to correct the market, one thing to keep in mind is that the posters on this board are way outnumbered by those who do not post but take advantage of those who do post. If I recall, A2 once said they estimate non posters outnumber us by about 4 or more.

To some guys paying $30-40 more per visit doesn't matter all that much. It does to most of us though.

To those who are not concerned, please help the rest of us. You certainly wouldn't want an overall economic market to go uncorrected.

I'm an exclusive UTR guy at this point but I'm in total support of what many guys are saying here. If you are a lurker, please give everyone else a little help to bring things back a bit.

Price gouging is not really a good thing in any market in the long run.

For those who post frequently and report on the good, the bad and the ugly I really appreciate what you have brought to the table. I have just found this forum and found it my go to for references. It has confirmed which providers I will see, and for the most part what I can expect. However the number one use of this forum is the degree of safety it provides an inexperienced pup like myself. That major issue although not eliminated is certainly reduced, and for that I thank you. So I for one have been asking price and requesting a reduction based on other "salaries" that are out there. One issue I have with that is time. I don't have a lot of free time to travel 30/40 minutes one way, have my fun and drive back another 30/40 minutes. I also like to duck into a shower before I see my significant other, so we are looking at 2. 5 hours out of the day. I just don't get that many days to do it. So my issue is I take what is available to me based on quality over price. I have tried setting a time two or three days in advance and get crickets when the time is approaching. I can't wait for them to finish their customer so they will call me back because they don't. So it's contact next person on list. At this point price is secondary.

I understand I don't have the name recognition, I am at the stage of trying multiple ladies, and not a repeat customer. The ladies I call do a volume business (no I don't believe they are low volume by choice) so it's first up first served. I'm in the same category as the mongers who call and don't show up, or stiff the provider for services provided. It reflects poorly on all of us, so appointments are not kept by the ladies. Secondly for those of you that have earned their stripes, congratulations, you earned them and the names of the UTR providers it gives you. It is my understanding that these ladies will be more responsible about keeping dates for those of you blessed with their phone numbers because you have earned it.

So for those contributors to the forum I will try to negotiate price. I will always be conscientious of the providers time and make appointments, so others after me will not feel the wrath of a jilted provider. If I am running late I will notify provider of the expected arrival time. However if I am jilted I'm on the clock and planning is not my little heads strong suit.

[NardBoy]

Not sure if this is the right place. Saw it on a FB page about nerds.

[NoseJelly]

Once the FofB Self-Service Kiosks are installed, the Negotiating will be over!

[Member #6094]

Is it me or is the number of providers dwindling. It seem like there has been a big downward spiral in selection in the GR area.

[RedHotGuy]

Who is the best value in GR. I'd like a GFE. Thanks in advance.

[JMaul]

We will counter sue for price fixing.

What should the universal rates become? What could be better than striking is to keep a consistent amount on the table to get certain providers in line. Clearly services provided and performance will vary between girls.

60 ss100 hhr150 hr?

There are exceptions to this, Jane in holland, most MPs, Kandi, others. But what should the rule be? I'm not sure if the effort will actually push costs to a standard rate because there will always be people negotiating for less and others willing to pay more.

[Benz1]

You know that they are going to sue you guys for collusion right? Ha.

We will counter sue for price fixing.

[Pete3854]

The supply and demand problem is hard to solve universally based on what Chip said. People who read the board and don't contribute outnumber those that do. There will always be demand unless the strike occurs. The supply changes more frequently.

To me the good economy hurts us. If these girls don't have a day job they aren't looking for one now either. Maybe it's because they won't pass a drug test, too lazy, etc. Rent is going up and the only way to offset that is with more income.

I support the idea of solving the problem universally but you need to start invidually. If I can't find someone to give me a good time for what I am willing to pay, I won't see them. These girls benefit from regulars and being a regular has its advantages in service and sometimes cost. Keep in mind that for every decent guy who pays fair is another who abuses the system and wrecks these girls trust by poor treatment or not paying as much or at all. There's also the others that don't give a shit about what the cost is and want priority and her attention.

You know that they are going to sue you guys for collusion right? Ha.

[JMaul]

In our free market system, the price is set by supply and demand. The quality providers are in high demand and can get more for their services because quality providers are in short supply. The economy is relatively good at this time so there are jobs available to give the providers options. The supply of quality providers will not likely increase until the economy and jobs go bad again.

The supply and demand problem is hard to solve universally based on what Chip said. People who read the board and don't contribute outnumber those that do. There will always be demand unless the strike occurs. The supply changes more frequently.

To me the good economy hurts us. If these girls don't have a day job they aren't looking for one now either. Maybe it's because they won't pass a drug test, too lazy, etc. Rent is going up and the only way to offset that is with more income.

I support the idea of solving the problem universally but you need to start invidually. If I can't find someone to give me a good time for what I am willing to pay, I won't see them. These girls benefit from regulars and being a regular has its advantages in service and sometimes cost. Keep in mind that for every decent guy who pays fair is another who abuses the system and wrecks these girls trust by poor treatment or not paying as much or at all. There's also the others that don't give a shit about what the cost is and want priority and her attention.

[WaginTail]

In terms of a strike or attempt to correct the market, one thing to keep in mind is that the posters on this board are way outnumbered by those who do not post but take advantage of those who do post. If I recall, A2 once said they estimate non posters outnumber us by about 4 or more.

To some guys paying $30-40 more per visit doesn't matter all that much. It does to most of us though.

To those who are not concerned, please help the rest of us. You certainly wouldn't want an overall economic market to go uncorrected.

I'm an exclusive UTR guy at this point but I'm in total support of what many guys are saying here. If you are a lurker, please give everyone else a little help to bring things back a bit.

Price gouging is not really a good thing in any market in the long run.

In our free market system, the price is set by supply and demand. The quality providers are in high demand and can get more for their services because quality providers are in short supply. The economy is relatively good at this time so there are jobs available to give the providers options. The supply of quality providers will not likely increase until the economy and jobs go bad again.

[ChipCharger]

In terms of a strike or attempt to correct the market, one thing to keep in mind is that the posters on this board are way outnumbered by those who do not post but take advantage of those who do post. If I recall, A2 once said they estimate non posters outnumber us by about 4 or more.

To some guys paying $30-40 more per visit doesn't matter all that much. It does to most of us though.

To those who are not concerned, please help the rest of us. You certainly wouldn't want an overall economic market to go uncorrected.

I'm an exclusive UTR guy at this point but I'm in total support of what many guys are saying here. If you are a lurker, please give everyone else a little help to bring things back a bit.

Price gouging is not really a good thing in any market in the long run.

[WildThing616]

I'm at that same point although I hadn't officially announced it. I enjoyed my time with Dixie but in all honesty I still can't get used to paying a hundred and twenty or more for a half hour even when the service is decent. I've been spending more time seeing Breezy for 40 than any other provider for the same reasons you state. What we are being asked to pay compared to the looks and services we get is really quite insane lately. So I'm officially on strike as well. I will not be paying a hundred plus a 1/2 hour with anyone for a while.

I have been striking.

I see an average looking Puerto Rican once a week. 40 bucks anything I want. No rush at a decent appartment in Wyoming.

I plan on expanding my strike on high rates with a 50 dollar Becca date soon.

Pretty much the same thing for me. In speaking with a few providers all I have to say is that some of you guys need to learn to at least TRY to negotiate. Some of the newer local providers are laughing at what they're being paid.

[Wolverines]

Thanks for sharing. It sounds amazing. I have been to Asia multiple times and each time I was blown away. Endless young smoking hot ass at a fraction of the price for a US provider. It basically ruins your future hobby experiences back here.

Thought I'd share some details on foreign travel I've enjoyed recently. I only get to partake in these things when I travel or significant other is away, so I don't post regularly but I was in Europe for work and visited Praha, CZ. Everything is legal and regulated there, and the town is very low cost. Stayed at a very nice hotel for around $120 a night, 4 star steak dinner around $40, taxi cheap.

They have 'strip clubs' that portend an exclusivity, they have show markets that are like window shopping brothels, and they have parlors for body rub. I visited AAA Exclusive Club which is a kind of cabaret downstairs and rooms upstairs. You visit and get a drink at the bar then sit down like a normal strip club, but the manager will visit and ask how you are and what you're interested in. The girls all must come by and introduce themselves to every new guest, and you get literal menu with prices. You just tell somebody who you want and they will come sit with you and you can hang out or discuss going upstairs. I picked a really pretty, tight bodied young lady who had just done a dance but her attitude wasn't the best. I learned you must let the girl pick you; some of the best looking women are doing this 8-10 times a shift so they are burned out, but some will make eye contact and try to get your attention. She was fun, though, and good at what she does. HHr, CBJ, CFS, about $70 US. Everything is covered and they always shower before and after, and you must do the same.

Also went to Showpark Market, which is split in two halves. First is bar and strip club, you can get lap dances and beer is expensive. Thru a door for a fee is the market. Another bar and game room, and a complex of rooms rented by the ladies. You wander the halls and see if you like any of the girls, then you can just stop and talk to them and negotiate. I took a stroll and one AA woman caught my eye and we kind of exchanged glances, so I went back. Made a good connection and negotiated 45 min. She was very well spoken with great English. Was there from Kenya. Both showered (Separately) and commenced to business on the bed. Mirrors everywhere. It was fun, CBJ to start and she says 'let me know when you're ready'. I say 'ready for. ?' and she looks up at me confused and says 'ready for jiggy-jiggy! Was a good time but I went broke and had to walk to hotel. Total cost was I think around $85 or so for her time.

Tried a 4 hand body rub, negotiated 45 min and 2 x SOG for $65. Shower before and after required. It was good but the girls were bored and very mechanical, but they knew how to get you where you wanted to be. Not as much fun as the clubs.

In total, it was cool. Nothing like here. Felt safe and tons of options.

https://www.aaa-club.net/en/