"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FeelGoodMd]

Reading all these posts about pictures got me thinking I could be more generous. These are some of my favorite pics of a former SB.

[Rustyshk]

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[Rustyshk]

That is an SD apartment!

My last RVA SB shared a nice place in Scotts Landing or whatever -- it was $1400 for a 2 BR.

Most RVA SBs are students -- part or full time -- and there is no way they are paying $1800 for housing.

I budget $400 all in -- hotel, any meals and her tuition assistance and rarely get any push back. IF they host, I'm happy to give them the difference since it is more discrete and her lingerie and toys are close at hand.

That's the point. They can't pay the 1800 they need for housing. That's why they put a profile up on SA. And you're right, most of them are part-time or full-time students, so they're getting screwed with paying $1,000/ mo for Healthcare on top of everything. Their part-time jobs give them too much income to qualify for Medicaid unless they're pregnant or have a bunch of nasty kids. Don't rely on my opinion. Pick up an Apartment Guide. Basic utilities alone are another 800 a month. If they really ARE students, their tuition is between 1200 and 2400 a month on top of that. If a student's allowance is 200, she would need to FC at least 20 guys a month to make ends meet.

[SandPiper540]

I enjoy looking at pictures of other guy's sugar babys. I've got a collection myself, I love it. My question about posting pictures is: Can you be sued for defamation? I mean you need consent to publicly post lewd pictures of someone else, am I right?

[FreeSpiritFet]

Last weekend I went to LA for a business trip, before I went there I talked to some local girls and hope I can find some fun while I was in town. There was one girl she is 19,5'2, 95 lbs, white / lain mix skinny girl. Super cute. We talked for couple days, and I told her what I'm looking for and we didn't talk about allowance at all. As we agreed, we would go to have a dinner and see if we have chemistry or not. And we go from there. After I landed in LA, I sent her a text and told her we can meet at my hotel lobby at 7 pm. She was cool and show up on time. We met at door, she is very pretty young girl. And we went to for a dinner. We talked a lot and seem we do like each other. And because she is under 21, we can't drink outside, so I bought her to my hotel. We had some wine, nothing crazy. First two hrs at my hotel we were just talking, she told her story why she came to LA, and she work in restaurant at the moment. And she broke up with her bf 2 months ago. Bla bla bla. It is fine, I got nothing to do, so I listen and told her what I think. And she said she has lots Korean girl friends, and they are all super pretty and skinny. And that is why she try to keep in good shape, doesn't want to be the "fat" one in the group. But trust me, she is not even close to that. I asked her to stand up so I could take a good look of her body. I put my arms around her and hug her. She started to kiss me, sweet and passion. So we french kiss for a good 10 plus minutes, she started to take off my pants and give me BJ without I asking. After that, I ate her pussy and finger her, she cum just during the oral. We fucked almost hrs that night and the more I fucked her the wilder she turned. She said she was horny, and want to be my little ****. She talks and looks so Innocent 2 hrs ago, but now she is talking dirty on the bed and ask me to spit on her face. I cum twice that night, and the second time really took me a while, but she seemed very enjoy it and just want to me keep fucking her. After couple hrs fuck excise, we cuddled and slept. In the morning, she started to blow me again and told me that she wants fuck and she want to me cum inside her little pussy this time. Before we used wraps. I was like, fuck it. Lets do it. After a good 30 minutes raw fucking, and I cum all in her little 19 yrs old pussy. After that, she started to get dress and tell me she needs to go to work at 10 am.

At that moment, that was the question I asked on here before. Dam, how much I need to pay her? We didn't even discuss that part at all. I remember someone told me just put the money in their bag and try not to embarrass those girls. So I did, and I did a pretty good job not to embarrass her because seems like she didn't even notice it. I walked her out of the hotel, and she left.

We had a short conversation after she left, and I copy those text here. That is the interesting part of my experience.

She: It was nice to meet you but I normally do arrangements with allowances (that's what a traditional arrangement is). Sorry, I totally forgot to tell you. It was nice to meet you and I hope you find another arrangement soon.

Me: Yep. We forgot to talk about that part. But you are so nice. (I thought she talked about monthly allowance).

She: I'm sorry. I don't normally meet people without allowance, because I spend money when I get ready. I mentioned it at first on SA, but I didn't mention it in person so it's my fault. But, I had fun with you, so you are an exception 😊 next time you come to LA, feel free to text me so we can hang out again. (When I read this, I was very confused).

Me: You are so sweet. I will come back. (I don't know what else to say).

After 1 hr, she text me again.

She: I'm so sorry, I didn't even check my bag. Thank you so much ❤65039;10084;65039; I just saw it now (Now I realize that she just saw the money!

Me: LOL, you are so cute! (Dam girl, you walked out without knowing I paid?).

I mean, this is the kind of experience I'm looking for. It felt so good and real! And doesn't feel like a transaction at all!

Afterwards, I was thinking, she walked out of my door without knowing I paid her, and she started to text me about money but she still keep it cool and nice.

She was sitting in uber must wondering that: Dam, I just give out free pussy last night!

[Ernest Ll]

400 is definitely my sweet spot. The guys on here need to think about the cost of living in RVA. The average one-bedroom apartment in Richmond is 1800/ month. What kind of bills are being paid with 200 bucks? That's like 33% of one of their car payments.

That is an SD apartment!

My last RVA SB shared a nice place in Scotts Landing or whatever -- it was $1400 for a 2 BR.

Most RVA SBs are students -- part or full time -- and there is no way they are paying $1800 for housing.

I budget $400 all in -- hotel, any meals and her tuition assistance and rarely get any push back. IF they host, I'm happy to give them the difference since it is more discrete and her lingerie and toys are close at hand.

[Rustyshk]

I know first hand how much she gets because I can see how much she spends when she is with me. How much she spends on clothes, jewelry, hotel rooms, meals, party favors, etc. And that money isn't coming from me because I stopped paying her 2 months ago. So far this month I got 11 trips to the FC with her for $$$$ and all of that went to pay for the no-tel (when I couldn't bring her to my house) and also a $ going to uber.

My sweet spot is a $ a date. In L.A. at $$ you can have a model a day. But I am on a budget. My live in costs me zero, as she covers all her own expenses, but she does get free rent, use of a car, and her cel phone paid.

Most of my girls are anything but white, so there will be some discounting there. But this white hottie hit me up an hour ago. I didn't even waste time trying to sweet talk her, I just told her I pay a $ a date. She said she liked my profile. Will it all come together? Who know, who cares, there are too many to worry about any particular one.

"Street people" are not my thing. Anybody with a pic that looks professional, probably paid $500 minimum to have those pictures taken. I doubt she'll be a 200 FC. As far as your SB that you stopped paying 2 months ago, it sounds like a drug addict that wants to party and needs some schmuck to pay for the hotel. I think the fact that its you is really just inconsequential.

[Rustyshk]

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[Rustyshk]

I completely agree that having an exclusive SB isn't likely. The girls will tell you what you would like to hear. I play the same game, I tell them whatever they like. No harm done in my mind. Virtually every profile says the girl is looking for one SD. As far as 4 K per month? Possible, but likely another story. It's a common tactic girls use to persuade us SDs. You offer $300 they say the last SD gave $600 per date. To be honest I find $400 / date to be a sweet spot.

400 is definitely my sweet spot. The guys on here need to think about the cost of living in RVA. The average one-bedroom apartment in Richmond is 1800/ month. What kind of bills are being paid with 200 bucks? That's like 33% of one of their car payments.

[Rustyshk]

Usually I like to take my time. A nice dinner with wine. Some flowers. Perhaps a little gift of jewelry. A steamy hot roll in the hay at a nice hotel. Maybe 2 or 3 rolls. Anyone for 4? LOL Most girls appreciate the romanticism of it all and are quite willing to give you any hole you want for as long as you want.

But then there is that day you don't have time for all of that. So you park in a secluded place like a horny teenager and have some good old fashioned car sex. So nice. Especially when she looks like your first grade teacher.

Which is this? The pics speak for themselves. I don't think it was ever this good when I was 16. Some things, like wine, get better with age.

Gross! I love my dick! I wouldn't let something like that near it. I love my car too. This is the exact reason why I pay big allowances. I want quality!

[HollywoodGuy]

After the rant about not trusting or believing in exclusivity, why would you trust or believe any SB about receiving 4 K a month from one SD?

I completely agree that having an exclusive SB isn't likely. The girls will tell you what you would like to hear. I play the same game, I tell them whatever they like. No harm done in my mind. Virtually every profile says the girl is looking for one SD. As far as 4 K per month? Possible, but likely another story. It's a common tactic girls use to persuade us SDs. You offer $300 they say the last SD gave $600 per date. To be honest I find $400 / date to be a sweet spot.

I know first hand how much she gets because I can see how much she spends when she is with me. How much she spends on clothes, jewelry, hotel rooms, meals, party favors, etc. And that money isn't coming from me because I stopped paying her 2 months ago. So far this month I got 11 trips to the FC with her for $$$$ and all of that went to pay for the no-tel (when I couldn't bring her to my house) and also a $ going to uber.

My sweet spot is a $ a date. In L.A. at $$ you can have a model a day. But I am on a budget. My live in costs me zero, as she covers all her own expenses, but she does get free rent, use of a car, and her cel phone paid.

Most of my girls are anything but white, so there will be some discounting there. But this white hottie hit me up an hour ago. I didn't even waste time trying to sweet talk her, I just told her I pay a $ a date. She said she liked my profile. Will it all come together? Who know, who cares, there are too many to worry about any particular one.

[SandPiper540]

I have never cared if a girl is exclusive or not (and usually encourage them to date as much as possible, so as to lessen the pressure for me to donate). A prime example is my current GF whose SD is shelling out 4k a month on her (plus room and board). And it wouldn't matter if he was spending 10k a month. Once she walks out the door he has no clue what she is doing and with whom she is doing it with. If you think she is crazy enough to flaunt that, she is not. As far as he knows she is going to her parents or visiting a GF.
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After the rant about not trusting or believing in exclusivity, why would you trust or believe any SB about receiving 4 K a month from one SD?

I completely agree that having an exclusive SB isn't likely. The girls will tell you what you would like to hear. I play the same game, I tell them whatever they like. No harm done in my mind. Virtually every profile says the girl is looking for one SD. As far as 4 K per month? Possible, but likely another story. It's a common tactic girls use to persuade us SDs. You offer $300 they say the last SD gave $600 per date. To be honest I find $400 / date to be a sweet spot.

[HollywoodGuy]

As someone who has posted too many hundreds of pics on this site to count (like only that guy in philly posts more). I have to agree. I have had so many pics posted that I deleted maybe half of them over the years just to not seem too overly post crazy. My rule of thumb is to only post pics that are the girls private pics or the candid ones I take while on a date. As a small courtesy I usually blank out the girls eyes to semi protect their anonymity. I wish I could have read the posts that were deleted before the Admin2 did so. As I love a little drama to spice up my day.

I have never cared if a girl is exclusive or not (and usually encourage them to date as much as possible, so as to lessen the pressure for me to donate). A prime example is my current GF whose SD is shelling out 4k a month on her (plus room and board). And it wouldn't matter if he was spending 10k a month. Once she walks out the door he has no clue what she is doing and with whom she is doing it with. If you think she is crazy enough to flaunt that, she is not. As far as he knows she is going to her parents or visiting a GF.

I have had maybe three or four exclusive SB relationships in the last 10 years out of maybe a dozen that I have had on a guaranteed monthly allowance. That's just the way it is. And that exclusivity was never a two way street except once (when I was a lame newbie). My current "wifey" is exclusive, and even that is a new thing. After six years of on and off dating her, with both of us having multiple partners, she finally decided to settle down and focus on me and her career. Obviously I have a hall pass from her as sneaking around would be impossible.

So anyway as I have said on here many times in the past, please guys post as many pics as you can because it can be very informative. Sometimes there is so much blah blah blah on these threads (me included), and you know what they say about a picture and words.

[SandPiper540]

Has anyone actually seen this baby? She's been available for quite some time. She responds, I'm just curious if anyone had anymore info. Feel free DM my inbox or just post right here. https://www.seeking.com/member/885a3...6-1f1d8401b7d1.

Spoken with her a few times, but then she goes dark and I've never met her. I'm definitely super curious too, would love to hear if anyone has had any luck.

I've met her in person, 1 time. She's real, very cute. Very under the radar. She has sent some very tasteful pics for $$. (very jack off worthy) But she sort of spooked me with text messages, asking me to buy booze for her underage friends. Also during a phone call I noticed she let some other girl answer and pretend be her. I was supposed to meet her at a hotel one evening, but I got nervous and cancelled. I was hoping someone else might have more info.

[Skboy]

Just thinking more about this subject gets my juices flowing.

I have actually had many SBs that were as submissive as you might hope to expect. None of them were experienced in this when I first met them, but I was more than happy to indulge their curiosities and oblige their further enlightenment. One in particular comes to mind that I enjoyed most deliciously when she was a freshman and sophomore in college. Looking at my catalog of pics and vids of her reminds me vividly how exciting and satisfying that was for me.

Great pic PTG! Most all SB are true subs anyway. I have a nice photo selection myself.

There is a reason this forum has a photo gallery. Post away PTG post away!