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**DoingObt** · 12-09-18 15:44

Originally Posted by Aeroxly [View Original Post]

The apps are good, but if they're on your regular phone, then your regular phone can still be tracked. It's better to have physical hardware, preferably that isn't connected to you in any way, that is disposable if you ever think it has been compromised. My preference is for old blackberries. They're cheap, small, readily available, and the old Blackberry OS doesn't track your every movement.

Even with all these precautions, I agree with everyone else. Anything CAN be tracked, and it's safer to just not say anything. I primarily use my burner when I'm shopping the trail. Even if I'm not worried about a sting, Google and Apple still track everywhere you go (so they can sell ads relevant to where you go / have been), and I'd just rather not have my hobby documented somewhere.

I can't believe how long this conversation has been going on. We're engaged in "dating" girls. If the police want to catch you they can set up stings and catch you that way. A Florida appeals court has ruled against warrantless stingray use. If they go for a warrant, it's against murderers and rapists and high level drug targets, not prostitutes and johns.

Use a burner phone to protect your I'd from girls and pimps, but this whole thing about police tracking our phones is a joke.

No, they are desperate criminals and LE would gladly spend 100's of thousands of dollars in order to write them a misdemeanor ticket.

A2

**Rudiger** · 12-09-18 13:50

Originally Posted by Aeroxly [View Original Post]

The apps are good, but if they're on your regular phone, then your regular phone can still be tracked. It's better to have physical hardware, preferably that isn't connected to you in any way, that is disposable if you ever think it has been compromised. My preference is for old blackberries. They're cheap, small, readily available, and the old Blackberry OS doesn't track your every movement.

Even with all these precautions, I agree with everyone else. Anything CAN be tracked, and it's safer to just not say anything. I primarily use my burner when I'm shopping the trail. Even if I'm not worried about a sting, Google and Apple still track everywhere you go (so they can sell ads relevant to where you go / have been), and I'd just rather not have my hobby documented somewhere.

I think the reason some mongers go with an app is cost and convenience. The cheapest cash burner flip-phone is going to run 20, then another 20 every 90 days for a new card. Finally, you then have to find some public access computer to get it activated. Yeah, it's more expensive and harder to do than a free app but, to me, it's cheap insurance to be as anonymous as possible.

**Vino 7373** · 12-09-18 13:48

Can you still be tracked if you have turned off your regular cell phone?

**Aeroxly** · 12-09-18 12:19

Originally Posted by SCJames [View Original Post]

Go pure burner? What about all the apps?

The apps are good, but if they're on your regular phone, then your regular phone can still be tracked. It's better to have physical hardware, preferably that isn't connected to you in any way, that is disposable if you ever think it has been compromised. My preference is for old blackberries. They're cheap, small, readily available, and the old Blackberry OS doesn't track your every movement.

Even with all these precautions, I agree with everyone else. Anything CAN be tracked, and it's safer to just not say anything. I primarily use my burner when I'm shopping the trail. Even if I'm not worried about a sting, Google and Apple still track everywhere you go (so they can sell ads relevant to where you go / have been), and I'd just rather not have my hobby documented somewhere.

**Lehmonade** · 12-09-18 11:39

Originally Posted by SCJames [View Original Post]

Go pure burner? What about all the apps?

Don't put yourself in the position where you're at their mercy. Don't talk money for sex or use of condom, or GFE or nothing.

Get intel from someone you know / site you trust. They will want you to talk more on the phone to build a solid case prior to meeting up. You showing up at a sting is questionable enough in court, but you agreeing to a crime AND being there is beyond reasonable doubt in court.

You can set up burner under someone else's name. Buy your burner with cash. Sign up with someone you hate, maybe grady judd or his two kids as name / fake address / fake other phone number. Better yet, set up your burner in public wifi. After that, you have to be aware of when you turn the phone ON. And where you have it OFF. Blah blah.

Skip all this by shutting up and not talking details. As stated earlier, don't put yourself in that position.

The reason question is how much you're willing to let your info be scrutinized under the name of national security ? Boo hoo, let's go after a woman anyway

**Rudiger** · 12-09-18 10:50

Originally Posted by Aeroxly [View Original Post]

Sarasota PD had one of those when I lived there several years back, and they didn't make any secret of it. It made me a little paranoid. When I'm "shopping," I use a burner phone. Not an app, an actual phone. When I go to Paradise Trail, I forward calls from my regular phone to the burner and only take the burner. If they track it, so what, I can dump it in the trash and change it up easily enough. But I'm super paranoid about that kind of thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.f43104a78d2f

The above article about the extremely lenient plea deal in Tampa to keep Stingray quiet is nearly four years old, and it's unnerving to learn that, today, LE in some jurisdictions (like Sarasota) have zero concern with letting everyone know they have cellphone signal intercept devices and are able to use them with impunity.

As someone else mentioned, when using a burner phone, it's wise to keep everything associated with it isolated, including paying cash for the phone and any cards to add minutes.

**SC James** · 12-09-18 08:46

Originally Posted by Herbie53 [View Original Post]

If one forwards their regular phone to a burner or any other phone, the carrier knows where the call came from, as well as your regular carrier knows to where you forwarded the calls. If LEO, or even a civil attorney like a divorce lawyer, gets the phone, or looks at the service provider's phone to see what numbers were called or received, and they are interested and motivated, they will subpoena the phone's call history from the carrier and see where that leads, and eventually, all be on display for them to read.

Most of us are familiar with Caller I D, but that's fairly modern by telco standards. The phone networks, landline and cellular, also use a protocol called Automatic Number Identification, or ANI, that has its root from the "long distance" call days and was invented by AT&T to track and bill for long distance calls. It cannot be blocked and it always knows where a call came from, where it's going, and any relays in between. ANI dates back nearly 100 years. The system is still used, but not so much for billing long distance unless calls are international. While it's possible to block Caller I D delivery, it's not for ANI. It's always is active and is part of all phone networks, so there is always a "paper trail" of every phone call's origination and destination that can be subpoenaed.

If one is taking the extra safety precaution of using a burner phone, then don't compromise it by forwarding calls to it from another phone number under one's control. If things get interesting, it leaves a paper trail.

Go pure burner? What about all the apps?

**Herbie53** · 12-09-18 05:00

Originally Posted by Aeroxly [View Original Post]

Sarasota PD had one of those when I lived there several years back, and they didn't make any secret of it. It made me a little paranoid. When I'm "shopping," I use a burner phone. Not an app, an actual phone. When I go to Paradise Trail, I forward calls from my regular phone to the burner and only take the burner. If they track it, so what, I can dump it in the trash and change it up easily enough. But I'm super paranoid about that kind of thing.

If one forwards their regular phone to a burner or any other phone, the carrier knows where the call came from, as well as your regular carrier knows to where you forwarded the calls. If LEO, or even a civil attorney like a divorce lawyer, gets the phone, or looks at the service provider's phone to see what numbers were called or received, and they are interested and motivated, they will subpoena the phone's call history from the carrier and see where that leads, and eventually, all be on display for them to read.

Most of us are familiar with Caller I D, but that's fairly modern by telco standards. The phone networks, landline and cellular, also use a protocol called Automatic Number Identification, or ANI, that has its root from the "long distance" call days and was invented by AT&T to track and bill for long distance calls. It cannot be blocked and it always knows where a call came from, where it's going, and any relays in between. ANI dates back nearly 100 years. The system is still used, but not so much for billing long distance unless calls are international. While it's possible to block Caller I D delivery, it's not for ANI. It's always is active and is part of all phone networks, so there is always a "paper trail" of every phone call's origination and destination that can be subpoenaed.

If one is taking the extra safety precaution of using a burner phone, then don't compromise it by forwarding calls to it from another phone number under one's control. If things get interesting, it leaves a paper trail.

**Aeroxly** · 12-08-18 23:46

Originally Posted by SCJames [View Original Post]

That is some serious shit right there. The end of freedom and privacy is on our doorstep.

Sarasota PD had one of those when I lived there several years back, and they didn't make any secret of it. It made me a little paranoid. When I'm "shopping," I use a burner phone. Not an app, an actual phone. When I go to Paradise Trail, I forward calls from my regular phone to the burner and only take the burner. If they track it, so what, I can dump it in the trash and change it up easily enough. But I'm super paranoid about that kind of thing.

**SC James** · 12-08-18 23:09

Originally Posted by KenAdams3141 [View Original Post]

Is it just me, or is it harder to find a provider on weekends?

I set up something early in the week for today. She woke up puking (she hadn't even met me yet!) so that was a cancel. So the "day of" scramble begins. Set up number 2 strings me along and ghosts when the time comes. Thankfully the lovely Mere was available to take care of me. Give her a shout.

**Rich5** · 12-08-18 21:44

Originally Posted by TittyManCam1 [View Original Post]

I used to go to the one in Altamonte closer to me but the long lines got annoying. This one is smaller and located downtown on Mills Ave just north of Colonial. Lines are usually short but they said it does get crowded on weekends. Here's the info for anyone interested.

North Mills Ave.

Orlando, FL 32803.

(407) XXX-8272.

TMC.

Thanks for the info. That is really important right now. Their should be no excuse for checking yourself out.

**Bush Hog** · 12-08-18 21:01

You are a wise Monger, All these suggestions help. Bush Hog.

Originally Posted by Caputh [View Original Post]

Get a picture. It is imperative that we document the service providers with recent pics. You know so you're review of Jessica is the Jessica you're reviewing and not one of the 400 other ones that are out there.

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**Caputh** · 12-08-18 20:42

Originally Posted by CssnPilot [View Original Post]

I want to expand on this. First DO NOT POST HER PHONE NUMBER, That's against the rules. You can provide a link to her ad and that would be greatly appreciated. Second "what you did" the more detailed the better.

Pilot.

Get a picture. It is imperative that we document the service providers with recent pics. You know so you're review of Jessica is the Jessica you're reviewing and not one of the 400 other ones that are out there.

**CssnPilot** · 12-08-18 20:16

Originally Posted by HarryPlopper [View Original Post]

I was asked via PM recently what I would consider a good report. I thought that this might be good for the community to hear. I responded below:

"The typical stuff. Who did you fuck, what you did, service levels as expected or advertised, how to contact (web, phone. Etc), how much was the service and would you do it again.

Those basic things make a good review. More details makes a great review usually.

The last part you have zero control over and that is validation of your review from other members. If they do not have the same experience then you will know it very quickly. This is also how fake reviews get exposed.

Good luck building a reputation. ".

Stay horny my friends. Harry P.

I want to expand on this. First DO NOT POST HER PHONE NUMBER, That's against the rules. You can provide a link to her ad and that would be greatly appreciated. Second "what you did" the more detailed the better.

Pilot.

**Harry Plopper** · 12-08-18 17:49

I was asked via PM recently what I would consider a good report. I thought that this might be good for the community to hear. I responded below:

"The typical stuff. Who did you fuck, what you did, service levels as expected or advertised, how to contact (web, phone. Etc), how much was the service and would you do it again.

Those basic things make a good review. More details makes a great review usually.

The last part you have zero control over and that is validation of your review from other members. If they do not have the same experience then you will know it very quickly. This is also how fake reviews get exposed.

Good luck building a reputation. ".

Stay horny my friends. Harry P.