WYP, SA, and other SD sites

[Tonygrt]

Team,

So I meet with her last week, she showed up on time, clean and pleasant. Probably not her first time, but no biggie, BBBJ, she just let me fuck her mouth, great head, strong 8. 5! Started in mish, nice wet pussy, nice little titties too. We agreed to 2. 5 for greek, she took it like a champ, everything covered, she definitely did not dig getting her ass pounded, but she took it with a tear in her eye! Lately I have been enjoying finishing in there mouth, so after I pulled out and removed the cover, finished in her mouth. The bad slightly thicker then I like so I probably won't see her again, I like them petite and slender. Not bbw at all, just 5'4"124 lbs. Athletic build.

https://www.seeking.com/member/634eb...8-907752373df9

[DepthCharge]

https://www.seeking.com/member/b5eb1...a-c277c8c5cc57

Wanted to switch to text pretty fast. Didn't check if this one was talked about before. Giving me a pro vibe initially. Still hashing details.

I dealt with her briefly back in the summer when she first joined. Can't say she's a pro, even an UTR one, but I do recall her being DTF. She was a flake (I know, I know, looking at those pics you'd think she was an astrophysicist and completely reliable and well grounded LOL) but the main issue was her asking price. Asked what allowance I had in mind, I said 250, especially for a first meet when I have no idea how things are going to go; she followed up with the 400 is what she was getting previously line. I said nah, too high even if it wasn't a first meet, and things kind of just petered out from there.

[Jge096]

The girl from link #1 told me $700. You must be better looking than me.

Haha. I think it is more likely she got laughed at by the men of this forum and of that site and tempered her expectations. Regardless I am not a fan of the entitlement. If someone thinks she is worth that then maybe she is but she should not approach every person like the person paying her $500.

[BuffBill75]

Didn't plan on posting intel until I got a better haul but this first one made me laugh with the GPS so felt the need to post and included a couple others.

https://www.seeking.com/member/79a20...3-a0af8a108f3c

DTF for the right price. When I responded with my usual allowance (100-250) she responded verbatim "yikes we're not on the same page. I've been doing 500/ meet". Some of these girls might be worth it but girls that are that rigid in their expectation are probably 1) not worth it and 2) inflated egos with nothing to back it up performance wise, just a pretty face.

https://www.seeking.com/member/819b0...e-b92766f69dbe

Been reviewed before in the NOVA forum but not specific on activity. Profile and preliminary talks indicate she is pretty dtf. Will meet with this one and report back with more specifics on price and activity.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f2e7e...e-a667d368517f

Dtf and switched to text pretty quickly. I say Dtf because she has said multiple times she will do "anything". I don't think she's that hot but some of you might entertain but I got a weird vibe so I probably won't meet this one.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b5eb1...a-c277c8c5cc57

Wanted to switch to text pretty fast. Didn't check if this one was talked about before. Giving me a pro vibe initially. Still hashing details.

The girl from link #1 told me $700. You must be better looking than me.

[Jge096]

Didn't plan on posting intel until I got a better haul but this first one made me laugh with the GPS so felt the need to post and included a couple others.

https://www.seeking.com/member/79a20...3-a0af8a108f3c

DTF for the right price. When I responded with my usual allowance (100-250) she responded verbatim "yikes we're not on the same page. I've been doing 500/ meet". Some of these girls might be worth it but girls that are that rigid in their expectation are probably 1) not worth it and 2) inflated egos with nothing to back it up performance wise, just a pretty face.

https://www.seeking.com/member/819b0...e-b92766f69dbe

Been reviewed before in the NOVA forum but not specific on activity. Profile and preliminary talks indicate she is pretty dtf. Will meet with this one and report back with more specifics on price and activity.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f2e7e...e-a667d368517f

Dtf and switched to text pretty quickly. I say Dtf because she has said multiple times she will do "anything". I don't think she's that hot but some of you might entertain but I got a weird vibe so I probably won't meet this one.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b5eb1...a-c277c8c5cc57

Wanted to switch to text pretty fast. Didn't check if this one was talked about before. Giving me a pro vibe initially. Still hashing details.

[DildoBaggins77]

The ego has quite simply been bred into them. In every single other venue, online or real life, attractive women are used to being able to get what they want from men. And unfortunately, most men are conditioned to give it to them. Or at least to believe they're going to have to work harder to get attention from the woman than the woman is in order to get attention from them. SA is great because it's one of the few places where things are reversed. The hot college age girls are a dime a dozen and there's always another one (or ten) around the corner if you get one who's being a ***** or asking too much or you just don't feel like dealing with. The problem is, since they're so used to things being the other way, I don't think they can wrap their heads around the new dynamic. I think the guys on there who are shelling out money for no sex or paying $700 a meet are also operating under the results of this conditioning. Anyhow, those are my thoughts on it. I think sometimes these girls' minds might be smoking as the gears grind together trying to reconcile the fact that they're no longer the hot commodity and they should actually be showing their worth to a prospective SD, not the other way around. A surefire indicator that the chick doesn't get it is when they say "obviously you don't know what a SD / SB relationship is all about" when you tell them you're not just going to pay all their bills for meeting at Starbucks LOL.

I love SA for that reason as well. I think it does get reinforced, like mentioned before, by the IG culture. Even when you go on tinder you see "I'm never on here, here's my IG or snap" and it's just for the exposure. You just get stuck in a line of other guys telling her she's beautiful or sexy. Nah, sorry dear. Your asset depreciates exponentially, and I'd suggest finding another way to add worth to your relationships, lolol.

A lot of the times, on the first meet, I'll subtly insert the 4:1 ratio of women to men (supposedly) in the site, or the amount of messages and traffic I get daily. The idea is they understand that the roles have been reversed!

[BigCoolie]

If I remember correctly, this one live near Severna Park, and wants $350 or so per meet and at least a day notice for an arrangement.

Just renewed my membership so I'll throw some preliminary reports but they're not that promising yet. Will put in more work once the holiday is over and girls are checking their inboxes more.

https://www.seeking.com/member/7e7bc...5-5b96610f3f04

Been reviewed on here before. She is DTF and open to suggestions. Will likely set up a time for this weekend if I am free. Like others have suggested she is heavier than the pics but I'm a younger guy so like the MILF thing.

[Admin2]

I think the guys on there who are shelling out money for no sex or paying $700 a meet are also operating under the results of this conditioning.

Which is why those chicks FUCKING HATE this forum. They want guys who have only been fucking their 60 year old wife twice a year for 20 years. Being allowed to masturbate with some chicks vagina is WAY more than they are used to. It all started when the guys who wanted to feel they were better than the guys fucking BP chicks started calling hookers SB's. Now they regularly talk about chicks with lots of customers charging by the hour as "SB's" it's bullshit.

Just keep going dark on the chicks with GPS and say NEXT.

A2.

[DepthCharge]

I don't understand where these egos come from. It's like they don't know there are cheaper, prettier, sexier women on this site. Great intel, man!

The ego has quite simply been bred into them. In every single other venue, online or real life, attractive women are used to being able to get what they want from men. And unfortunately, most men are conditioned to give it to them. Or at least to believe they're going to have to work harder to get attention from the woman than the woman is in order to get attention from them. SA is great because it's one of the few places where things are reversed. The hot college age girls are a dime a dozen and there's always another one (or ten) around the corner if you get one who's being a ***** or asking too much or you just don't feel like dealing with. The problem is, since they're so used to things being the other way, I don't think they can wrap their heads around the new dynamic. I think the guys on there who are shelling out money for no sex or paying $700 a meet are also operating under the results of this conditioning. Anyhow, those are my thoughts on it. I think sometimes these girls' minds might be smoking as the gears grind together trying to reconcile the fact that they're no longer the hot commodity and they should actually be showing their worth to a prospective SD, not the other way around. A surefire indicator that the chick doesn't get it is when they say "obviously you don't know what a SD / SB relationship is all about" when you tell them you're not just going to pay all their bills for meeting at Starbucks LOL.

[DildoBaggins77]

Many of the better looking ones may have a fairly strong social media presence where they have 100's or even a few 1000 guys ogling their bikini pics on IG or Facebook. If you're hotter than a 7 and under 25, your day is filled with an endless number of guys hitting on you online and in real life. For others they may have a friend who told them about this place. But the friend doesn't want to sound like she's easy or sells herself too cheap. So even though her friend really only gets 200-250 per date, she's going to lie and say she gets 500. But in a nutshell, imagine you're told you're hot a dozen times, every time you leave the house, or dozens of times when you update your profile pic on Facebook. It's going to do crazy shit to your ego. I'm also sure there are plenty of guys on SA who tell these girls that they'll pay 500-1000 just to keep the convo going and get access to the private pics even if they have no intention of meeting. I don't get mad because I don't get emotionally attached to outcomes. The girls who say they want 1000, I just let them know that's out of my league and wish them luck. There was one who I had to put in her place because she was being a ****. When I pissed her off, I brought the ghetto right out of her. Then I told her that no matter how good she looks, her ghetto affectation and shit grammar disqualified her from being a $1000 SB. The funny thing is the girls who come in at 300-400. I won't budge one cent over 250. But those 300-400 girls will keep coming back at you time and again. Some of them are quite hot, and I don't see it as ego. I just tell them that I absolutely don't budge past a certain point, and it's not about them, it's about the limits I place on myself.

I wouldn't consider some of the GPS's in that intel to be 7's, personally. I've had a lot of my babies tell me about the private photo and no meet thing, and I think some of them just get stolen for scams too. My only contention about the ego is that they're in an environment where there is hotter, and cheaper, and curvier. I don't find it hard to get at least 2 of those 3, so it just struck me as ego. But, there's definitely more too it, like you said.

[DildoBaggins77]

How do you guys successfully move the conversation from normal chit chat to getting confirmation that a SB is DTF and the $ they expect?

I'm usually very direct. I give a greeting and ask what their expectations are from the site. They respond with that, and if I'm unsure I'll ask for clarity, then I start the chit chat. Before the chit chat, I usually can tell if they're DTF. Money? I like waiting to talk about donations until we meet the first time. In my opinion, not good practice to give her a reference point when I haven't even gotten a feel for her personality yet (or if she matches her photos).

[MBNewGuy]

I don't understand where these egos come from. It's like they don't know there are cheaper, prettier, sexier women on this site. Great intel, man!

Many of the better looking ones may have a fairly strong social media presence where they have 100's or even a few 1000 guys ogling their bikini pics on IG or Facebook. If you're hotter than a 7 and under 25, your day is filled with an endless number of guys hitting on you online and in real life. For others they may have a friend who told them about this place. But the friend doesn't want to sound like she's easy or sells herself too cheap. So even though her friend really only gets 200-250 per date, she's going to lie and say she gets 500. But in a nutshell, imagine you're told you're hot a dozen times, every time you leave the house, or dozens of times when you update your profile pic on Facebook. It's going to do crazy shit to your ego. I'm also sure there are plenty of guys on SA who tell these girls that they'll pay 500-1000 just to keep the convo going and get access to the private pics even if they have no intention of meeting. I don't get mad because I don't get emotionally attached to outcomes. The girls who say they want 1000, I just let them know that's out of my league and wish them luck. There was one who I had to put in her place because she was being a ****. When I pissed her off, I brought the ghetto right out of her. Then I told her that no matter how good she looks, her ghetto affectation and shit grammar disqualified her from being a $1000 SB. The funny thing is the girls who come in at 300-400. I won't budge one cent over 250. But those 300-400 girls will keep coming back at you time and again. Some of them are quite hot, and I don't see it as ego. I just tell them that I absolutely don't budge past a certain point, and it's not about them, it's about the limits I place on myself.

[SpiceOfLife]

How do you guys successfully move the conversation from normal chit chat to getting confirmation that a SB is DTF and the $ they expect?

I usually tell them what my current or most recent arrangement was like and that I'm looking for a similar arrangement. Then the onus is on her to tell you whether or not that sounds like something she's be interested in. I'll tell her what I'm paying or paid my most current SB and go from there. I'm not always honest here, I might fudge the numbers for a prospect that I think will take less. She can always counteroffer.

[BuffBill75]

How do you guys successfully move the conversation from normal chit chat to getting confirmation that a SB is DTF and the $ they expect?

[DildoBaggins77]

Hey, I haven't been as active lately but here is some info since the last time I posted. Details are below each lady. I also have a couple good ones in Philly if anyone travels there, reach out and I'll provide info.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1ea38...4-938f09162c17

Said she was DTF for 300, gave me her number and when I texted her, she didn't respond. Hasn't been active on the site for a bit so assume she changed her mind.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2eb49...e-3c118d7924df

Said she wants 800 per meet LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/7d8bb...0-a9b0833dc540

Pretty sure this one is DTF but we didn't get to the amount. She had issue with me being married so I moved on.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2d947...8-6522d2c3855b

Said she wants 700 per meet LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/3183f...0-446918226f0d

She's DTF and wants 300 to 500 per meet, I did not partake.

https://www.seeking.com/member/516bf...3-fd418e259d53

She's DTF but wants 1 K per meet LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/fafdd...a-78d9c26a62be

This one says she's a virgin and wants 3 k to give it up. I've had several virgins so even if she's telling the truth which I bet she isn't, I wouldn't go for it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/752c5...4-2907a9404d00

No intimacy.

https://www.seeking.com/member/14ab2...5-186e9603d6ba

She indicated DTF for 200 to 300. I needed her to come to me and she wanted 350. I passed for now.

https://www.seeking.com/member/52a23...8-b07fe4122748

Wants to sell pics and videos.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0907d...f-4c7891a1b9e8

Indicates she's DTF but wants 500 per meet.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b5eb1...a-c277c8c5cc57

Indicates she's DTF but wants 400 per meet. I thought about it but I have plenty of action at 250 and less per meet. So I've passed for now.

https://www.seeking.com/member/82ff3...f-02d9c13a045f

I'm going to try and meet this one at some point. DTF and wants 250 per meet, no backdoor.

https://www.seeking.com/member/3bb08...8-1bbc7b493de5

She's DTF, but wants dinner paid for and minimum 350 per meet. Has to include dinner in each meeting.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1943a...0-91ce629f4e70

Wants to do pictures.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ff774...e-5038177a9c37

Wants online only.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ef6b4...3-1b6caf64e5b9

She's DTF but wants 500 per meet and won't come to you.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b3239...f-9a7201913b78

Says she's DTF but a ways from me. We didn't get to dollars discussion.

I don't understand where these egos come from. It's like they don't know there are cheaper, prettier, sexier women on this site. Great intel, man!