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  1. #1386
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    Posts: 4413

    TOFTT. 12 step program

    Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 4).

    Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.

    1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.

    Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

    Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

    Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

    Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

    A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

    B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

    If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

    C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

    D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

    Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

    Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

    Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

    A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

    B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

    Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

    Step 10: Check every room for safety.

    Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

    Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

    12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.

    These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

    Just trying to help.

    Fellow Monger Benz1.

  2. #1385

    Cop stings.

    On top of that we have to worry about cop stings more seriously since the huge arrests that were made near traverse city. I literally avoid all 989 numbers now because I think they are cops. There was a post earlier about how to avoid getting arrested when exploring the hobby. If someone wouldn't mind referencing the post number I'd appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverines  [View Original Post]
    No doubt things changed after the gov passed that anti-sex trafficking legislation. During that time I started see more and more providers showing up on SA. I just have to assume many of these providers now have regulars that they established during that period and that they only surface to STG or CityX when things are slow with those regulars. I myself have several UTR providers I see that do not want any new customers. They have jobs and what regulars they do have are enough. The job market is good right now and that is not helping our hobby.

  3. #1384
    No doubt things changed after the gov passed that anti-sex trafficking legislation. During that time I started see more and more providers showing up on SA. I just have to assume many of these providers now have regulars that they established during that period and that they only surface to STG or CityX when things are slow with those regulars. I myself have several UTR providers I see that do not want any new customers. They have jobs and what regulars they do have are enough. The job market is good right now and that is not helping our hobby.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystry12  [View Original Post]
    I agree 1000%. The market sucks in GR now. Oh how I miss the old days. The move the govt made with CL and the old boards, (Scorps, EV etc.) has accomplished the intended objective of reducing availability on the supply side. Demand is the same, supply is down, so price goes up. However, higher price certainly doesn't assure higher quality. In fact, the high demand probably helps drive it down because we tend to accept the crap service and looks.

    Not sure of the answer, but again, I do miss the old boards and the fun times they brought.

  4. #1383
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4413

    Kandiland

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveyDuck  [View Original Post]
    I got my spot / You can PM me when other email boxes fill up.
    Sadly I can't make advanced appointments anymore. Wife's work schedule has become random and unpredictable. If I schedule with her I would likely have to cancel 50/50 chance. I like and respect Kandi enough not to waste her time, her time is very limited. I hope the rest of her clients give her the same respect. If you schedule an appointment Show Up on time so she has a good time and returns soon. Hopefully I can see her next time.

  5. #1382

    Kandiland is the best

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodFun10  [View Original Post]
    Kandi wanted me to pass on that she will be in GR Wednesday evening to Saturday evening. I recommend scheduling early, she books up early. If you don't already have digits send her a PM thru this board, Kandiland1 I believe. I hooked with her over a year ago and she has always provided the best GFE since. Thanks for the initial recommendation Benz.
    I got my spot / You can PM me when other email boxes fill up.

  6. #1381

    Kandiland

    Kandi wanted me to pass on that she will be in GR Wednesday evening to Saturday evening. I recommend scheduling early, she books up early. If you don't already have digits send her a PM thru this board, Kandiland1 I believe. I hooked with her over a year ago and she has always provided the best GFE since. Thanks for the initial recommendation Benz.

  7. #1380
    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    I too am frustrated with the scene in GR. 75% of the STG ads are obvious fakes. The ones that aren't are either unappealing or over-priced. Even worse on cityx. Erotic Monkey is full of fake reviews. This time last year we had a large variety of decent options. Now its 150 ss for covered everything! The few good options are impossible to schedule with: Brook Billions, P10 etc. We're left with a few SWs with internet access who look scary at best.

    A decent girl with realistic rates who actually is reachable on her cell would own the market right now.
    I agree 1000%. The market sucks in GR now. Oh how I miss the old days. The move the govt made with CL and the old boards, (Scorps, EV etc.) has accomplished the intended objective of reducing availability on the supply side. Demand is the same, supply is down, so price goes up. However, higher price certainly doesn't assure higher quality. In fact, the high demand probably helps drive it down because we tend to accept the crap service and looks.

    Not sure of the answer, but again, I do miss the old boards and the fun times they brought.

  8. #1379

    Baldwin gal

    Quote Originally Posted by Stroker417  [View Original Post]
    http://northern-michigan.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hello-baby/204739507685

    Hello Baby! 32 years old.

    Ad posted at 01:08 PM on 2018-10-21.

    Email meCall me.

    I see.

    Men Women Couples.

    Race / Regionality.

    Caucasian (N. American / W. European).

    Hair color.

    Black.

    Accepted payment methods.

    Cash.

    Available for.

    Incall Outcall.

    Hours.

    12 midnight to 12 midnight.

    Location.

    Baldwin.

    Weight.

    161 lb.

    Height.

    5 ft 4 in - 5 ft 7 in.

    Breasts.

    Large, natural.

    Grooming down under.

    Shaved.

    Piercing.

    Visible.

    Tattoos.

    Very visible or many.

    Social activities.

    Drink.

    Looking to meet new people. Serious inquires only. NO EMAILS! Please text. And be respectful as I always am. I am very fun and love to have a good time. Donations are required for my time. WILL NOT ANSWER PRIVATE CALLS! NO AA MEN!

    Posted in STG so you have to go thru certain steps to view it.
    If this is who I think it is I would highly recommend her. If it's who I think it is I have known her for a couple years. Met her on SA, she was def a non-pro the first time I met her. Very responsive and really got into it more then anyone I've ever been with I the hobby or out. She's a really nice person too. Toward the end before she moved I could tell it was a bit more like an appt to her as she would get right to business instead of talking etc. Make no mistake it was still great just it was different. I have talked to her a few times since she moved but couldn't make it up there to see her.

    Not 100% it's the same gal without pics but it sure sounds like it!!

  9. #1378

    Absolutely correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowboatguy  [View Original Post]
    I guess to some degree, we're all idiots when it comes to an attractive woman. Talked to her in the past few days and drove by the address she sent. It's a seemingly quiet area but there were several cars either parked there or pulling up. Obvious drug activity. Asked her about it and her reply was she could care less because she has guys standing in line to either see her or, as she put it, become FWB and just drop money off. It reminds me of the activity on 6th / Summit last year prior to that raid that got hookers and drug dealers. Think with your big head here.
    The chick is on drugs for sure. The house is the dirtiest nasty place you could imagine. Pit Bull guarding the back door on a chain. You try to get to the back door, it would eat you.

    I am sure its on the bust list.

  10. #1377
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4413

    Brooke Billions

    Quote Originally Posted by LandRover20  [View Original Post]
    Benz, I'm a little surprised to see you referenced in her ad. You're cool with that?
    Brooke Billions is a great provider, She only answers her phone when she's in the mood to play. (Always Bubbly).

    " Beautiful Bubbly Brooke is Benz Approved" and a personal friend. We talk everyday about everything not just hobby talk.
    When I met Brooke, we were not in hobby mode. After we became good friends she asked me if I had ever heard of usasexguide. True Story. I've seen her without her makeup and I think shes more attractive without it.
    Brooke is a real Awesome person who is able to work in this hobby without being high. She's a gem and has my approval.

  11. #1376

    What a difference a year makes

    I too am frustrated with the scene in GR. 75% of the STG ads are obvious fakes. The ones that aren't are either unappealing or over-priced. Even worse on cityx. Erotic Monkey is full of fake reviews. This time last year we had a large variety of decent options. Now its 150 ss for covered everything! The few good options are impossible to schedule with: Brook Billions, P10 etc. We're left with a few SWs with internet access who look scary at best.

    A decent girl with realistic rates who actually is reachable on her cell would own the market right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverines  [View Original Post]
    Dude, we got a porn star here. What more do you want? She is GR expensive though.

  12. #1375
    Quote Originally Posted by JMaul  [View Original Post]
    I met her this week as well. Lately I've run into a terrible about of communication issues from providers. Was in GR and hit up Jane but she was doing outcall only and said my friend Rapunzel is offering if you'd like.

    She's legit and a little cautious. My experience was a little different though. She wouldn't do a BJ, covered or not. She also quoted 150 ss 200 hh. I said hun you are in the wrong city to be asking for this kind of dough, this is budget minded monger land here. Settled for 100 ss, which is a little steep for me but I had batted 0-5 tonight with providers and little J wanted love with a lady. Staying at a reasonable hotel, no numbers no colors which is a godsend these days. She said once I had her I'd come back for more. I'll see if it pans out but unless her services include BBBJ and rates drop to normal GR offering I'm not sure I will. She was friendly and good at what she did offer DFK and CFS. I gave her a few tips on making her endeavor here a good one and based on Girls review maybe she is improving. I reached out to her to see if BJ is now included and she said she's iffy. I've never met someone who would kiss you mouth and not your dick so let's hope she offers more and stays legit. A friend of Jane is a friend of mine.

    Happy hunting.
    Onset of GPS? Is Jane like that as well?

    Thanks in advance.

  13. #1374
    Benz, I'm a little surprised to see you referenced in her ad. You're cool with that?

  14. #1373
    High rates and no BBBJ. Good luck to her! She's not a super hot girl either.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaul  [View Original Post]
    I met her this week as well. Lately I've run into a terrible about of communication issues from providers. Was in GR and hit up Jane but she was doing outcall only and said my friend Rapunzel is offering if you'd like.

    She's legit and a little cautious. My experience was a little different though. She wouldn't do a BJ, covered or not. She also quoted 150 ss 200 hh. I said hun you are in the wrong city to be asking for this kind of dough, this is budget minded monger land here. Settled for 100 ss, which is a little steep for me but I had batted 0-5 tonight with providers and little J wanted love with a lady. Staying at a reasonable hotel, no numbers no colors which is a godsend these days. She said once I had her I'd come back for more. I'll see if it pans out but unless her services include BBBJ and rates drop to normal GR offering I'm not sure I will. She was friendly and good at what she did offer DFK and CFS. I gave her a few tips on making her endeavor here a good one and based on Girls review maybe she is improving. I reached out to her to see if BJ is now included and she said she's iffy. I've never met someone who would kiss you mouth and not your dick so let's hope she offers more and stays legit. A friend of Jane is a friend of mine.

    Happy hunting.

  15. #1372

    Huh

    Never mentioned, hinted, or acted like the BBBJ was an issue. Again, it wasn't a problem with me at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaul  [View Original Post]
    I met her this week as well. Lately I've run into a terrible about of communication issues from providers. Was in GR and hit up Jane but she was doing outcall only and said my friend Rapunzel is offering if you'd like.

    She's legit and a little cautious. My experience was a little different though. She wouldn't do a BJ, covered or not. She also quoted 150 ss 200 hh. I said hun you are in the wrong city to be asking for this kind of dough, this is budget minded monger land here. Settled for 100 ss, which is a little steep for me but I had batted 0-5 tonight with providers and little J wanted love with a lady. Staying at a reasonable hotel, no numbers no colors which is a godsend these days. She said once I had her I'd come back for more. I'll see if it pans out but unless her services include BBBJ and rates drop to normal GR offering I'm not sure I will. She was friendly and good at what she did offer DFK and CFS. I gave her a few tips on making her endeavor here a good one and based on Girls review maybe she is improving. I reached out to her to see if BJ is now included and she said she's iffy. I've never met someone who would kiss you mouth and not your dick so let's hope she offers more and stays legit. A friend of Jane is a friend of mine.

    Happy hunting.

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