Non Pro's

**Mojo567** · 10-21-18 21:34

Any intel on this one? She basically started sending me messages telling me she is into Anal etc etc. So I thought I would just let her know upfront that I do like it, but prefer it if I can BB and finish inside her butt. She is down with that. A little too direct for me. Anyone have first hand knowledge?

https://www.seeking.com/member/2566d...0-3d5228c1a7b8

**Michael1967** · 10-20-18 23:39

Originally Posted by IrishGuy1977 [View Original Post]

Has anyone had any experience with this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/3d519...0-6b8c5fff1bea

We have been back and forth in text for a couple of weeks. Twice resulting in pretty raunchy D / s type sexting. Each time she sent a video of herself getting off from the text exchange. But I am having trouble getting her to commit to an person meet. Trust me I am not disappointed in the exchanges which have cost zero dollars at this point. But definitely want to see if the reality lives up to the text exchanges.

So really curious has anyone ever communicated or actually let her in real life?

I just blocked her because she keeps contact me an is not my type.

**Mojo567** · 10-20-18 23:28

Originally Posted by IrishGuy1977 [View Original Post]

Has anyone had any experience with this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/3d519...0-6b8c5fff1bea

We have been back and forth in text for a couple of weeks. Twice resulting in pretty raunchy D / s type sexting. Each time she sent a video of herself getting off from the text exchange. But I am having trouble getting her to commit to an person meet. Trust me I am not disappointed in the exchanges which have cost zero dollars at this point. But definitely want to see if the reality lives up to the text exchanges.

So really curious has anyone ever communicated or actually let her in real life?

She likes it rough. BBCIP and BBGreek are both available with her. She will be atleast an hour or so late for the meet. Good for one visit.

**SeattleSilver1** · 10-20-18 21:08

Originally Posted by Twister100 [View Original Post]

That's Emily. She's real, she's also flakey and has been discussed here numerous times. She probably the closest thing we have to a SD welcome wagon. Join SA, discover Em, dump a load in her, realize she's a flake, decide the con's outweigh the pro's and move on.

I have seen Emily a few times, usually at a casino hotel north of Everett. She is great fun, enjoys a fairly wide range of activities, and is pretty skilled. She texts me from time to time to let me know she has a room, in case I can go up there.

**IrishGuy1977** · 10-20-18 19:40

Originally Posted by Twister100 [View Original Post]

That's Emily. She's real, she's also flakey and has been discussed here numerous times. She probably the closest thing we have to a SD welcome wagon. Join SA, discover Em, dump a load in her, realize she's a flake, decide the con's outweigh the pro's and move on.

So is she as freaky with rough sex, being dominated, and cia as she comes across in the texts?

**Twister100** · 10-20-18 18:34

Originally Posted by IrishGuy1977 [View Original Post]

Has anyone had any experience with this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/3d519...0-6b8c5fff1bea

We have been back and forth in text for a couple of weeks. Twice resulting in pretty raunchy D / s type sexting. Each time she sent a video of herself getting off from the text exchange. But I am having trouble getting her to commit to an person meet. Trust me I am not disappointed in the exchanges which have cost zero dollars at this point. But definitely want to see if the reality lives up to the text exchanges.

So really curious has anyone ever communicated or actually let her in real life?

That's Emily. She's real, she's also flakey and has been discussed here numerous times. She probably the closest thing we have to a SD welcome wagon. Join SA, discover Em, dump a load in her, realize she's a flake, decide the con's outweigh the pro's and move on.

**WellThisIsFun** · 10-20-18 14:57

Originally Posted by Twister100 [View Original Post]

Anyone recognize this gal? I'm not sure but perhaps Savannah Stone?

Babyglacier https://www.seeking.com/member/186dd...8-c3c8e529f641.

No. Savannah is in her mid to late 20's and is not Hispanic.

**IrishGuy1977** · 10-20-18 13:10

Has anyone had any experience with this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/3d519...0-6b8c5fff1bea

We have been back and forth in text for a couple of weeks. Twice resulting in pretty raunchy D / s type sexting. Each time she sent a video of herself getting off from the text exchange. But I am having trouble getting her to commit to an person meet. Trust me I am not disappointed in the exchanges which have cost zero dollars at this point. But definitely want to see if the reality lives up to the text exchanges.

So really curious has anyone ever communicated or actually let her in real life?

**Twister100** · 10-20-18 12:23

Anyone recognize this gal? I'm not sure but perhaps Savannah Stone?

Babyglacier https://www.seeking.com/member/186dd...8-c3c8e529f641.

**Mojo567** · 10-20-18 00:53

Thanks for sharing what was the damage 400+incall? -- That is what she normally quotes.

Originally Posted by Jacklord1 [View Original Post]

*Disclaimer* - This hobby is always YMMV.

Had made contact based on intel that looked like this young lass may go BBFS and all crazy kindza fun.

https://www.seeking.com/member/87cef...7-aef8aecc96ea

Now granted I am a fat semi-old fuck, but I am as safe and clean as a gentle breeze.

I ended up with muted LFK and CFS, however BBBJ was a nice start.

Still a really nice / sweet girl, sweet tight body with nice boobies, albeit a bit paranoid perhaps.

When I compare this to every one of my other SA experiences. Can I get a partial refund?

Again, maybe I'm like her dad's creepy friend next door peering over the fence to her, but I'd have loved to tear that shit up. It just didn't work out for us.

I mean she did drive to see me, clearly took a shower in my shower so obviously squeaky clean and freshly shaven.

Maybe she sensed that just a few hours before I had a cosmic time with one of my favorite area UTR's on the very same bed. But that's a different story.

**IrishGuy1977** · 10-20-18 00:51

Originally Posted by Jacklord1 [View Original Post]

*Disclaimer* - This hobby is always YMMV.

Had made contact based on intel that looked like this young lass may go BBFS and all crazy kindza fun.

https://www.seeking.com/member/87cef...7-aef8aecc96ea

Now granted I am a fat semi-old fuck, but I am as safe and clean as a gentle breeze.

I ended up with muted LFK and CFS, however BBBJ was a nice start.

Still a really nice / sweet girl, sweet tight body with nice boobies, albeit a bit paranoid perhaps.

When I compare this to every one of my other SA experiences. Can I get a partial refund?

Again, maybe I'm like her dad's creepy friend next door peering over the fence to her, but I'd have loved to tear that shit up. It just didn't work out for us.

I mean she did drive to see me, clearly took a shower in my shower so obviously squeaky clean and freshly shaven.

Maybe she sensed that just a few hours before I had a cosmic time with one of my favorite area UTR's on the very same bed. But that's a different story.

I don't think it is just you.

She was my first experience in the SB world and it was great. Each meet was better than the previous. I saw her several times in June and July. We went to dinner, had a few drinks, or just went or and grabbed a Starbucks. It ended in adult fun each time. First time was covered. Next time neither of us had any so we went without. The subject was of covers was not brought up again. Texting occurred before and after meets (I use a burner and she was told it was ok). They were always flirty and fun. Like they would be with a new vanilla girlfriend.

Then all of the sudden she went radio silent until a few weeks ago. Now her texts are short and straight to the point. More escort like. Her PPM also has increased. Before it was $$$ for 3 to 4 hours including public time. But usually ended up 2 plus hours of private. Now she quoted me $$ 5 for between 1. 5 to 2. 0 hours. She is no longer interested in doing any traditional dating activities and only has time for private.

I am a long time hobbyist who like most of us ended up displaced and without reliable sources of checking credentials and reviews to see what we are in for. The next logical place was here in the SB arena. She set the bar high. I guess I expected all interactions to be like this one. But I kept running across and most likely subconsciously starting seeking out SB that displayed escort behavior right out of the gates. It is pretty easy to tell which ones do based on the communications. They are always straight to the point. Give you a do's and don't's list and quote you their PPM allowance. After several experiences like you described I got frustrated. Then I really started reading this thread and even checked out forums on Reddit. Based on some good advice I changed my habits and it has paid huge dividends.

My theory (take it for what is worth) is a lot of beautiful young girls sign up for SA thinking that they are going to get some older guy with money to buy them lots of fancy things and take them on trips without anything physical just because they are young and pretty. They quickly realize that physical is always expected. Become jaded and start feeling like an escort. So in turn start acting like one. She is a prime example / there have been several other mentioned recently. AmericanGirl is another.

I have had only one other experience where the conversation was straight forward like an escort but she delivered like I had come to expect form SugarPlum.

Now I known I have some unfair advantages to those of you that are local with SO. I don't SB at home for the same reason. While I am in Seattle for work I have a hotel paid for, a place to leave my burner, and no connections so there is never a fear of running into anyone I know in public. Over the last several weeks I have had great success on four different occasions. I start with flirty messaging. Then work towards getting them to agree to a no obligation meet and greet. Whether it is just coffee or full blown dinner and drinks. But always in public. Never really costs much. Hell one girl was happy with a Chinese food buffet. Then while with them I lead the subtly lead the conversation towards allowance and expectations. I am 4 for 5 ending in great experiences with multiple rounds behind closed doors. 3 of the 4 have been without cover. The one that didn't work out was my choice. She would have been game but I wasn't feeling it.

With very minimal effort I have burned the sheets with beautiful young women that wouldn't look at me twice If I met them in a bar. Way out of my league for a very reasonable allowance. Most have been at $$$ for multiple hours behind closed doors. But the key is you have to put in a little work. Not much you just have to do enough to not make them feel like an escort. If you start conversations like they are an escort and they respond like an escort. Well you are probably going to get an escort.

It really is a numbers game. I contacted and exchanged messages with 15 different girls to meet the 5.

Like I said I am new to this and still learning. But it has been a great couple of weeks.

**EpicFreeMan20** · 10-19-18 09:32

Fellow members,

Set up an arrangement with SB mellowyellow82. Anyone have any encounters or info on her? She was good with $$ ppm and she can host only during the day. She didn't come off like a pro with all the sweet talk but was fairly straight to the point. With short replys. Haven't really got into any kind of dirty talk to see what the playground is going to be like.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2b378...4-6726050306e9

**Jacklord1** · 10-19-18 05:46

*Disclaimer* - This hobby is always YMMV.

Had made contact based on intel that looked like this young lass may go BBFS and all crazy kindza fun.

https://www.seeking.com/member/87cef...7-aef8aecc96ea

Now granted I am a fat semi-old fuck, but I am as safe and clean as a gentle breeze.

I ended up with muted LFK and CFS, however BBBJ was a nice start.

Still a really nice / sweet girl, sweet tight body with nice boobies, albeit a bit paranoid perhaps.

When I compare this to every one of my other SA experiences. Can I get a partial refund?

Again, maybe I'm like her dad's creepy friend next door peering over the fence to her, but I'd have loved to tear that shit up. It just didn't work out for us.

I mean she did drive to see me, clearly took a shower in my shower so obviously squeaky clean and freshly shaven.

Maybe she sensed that just a few hours before I had a cosmic time with one of my favorite area UTR's on the very same bed. But that's a different story.

**Jacklord1** · 10-19-18 01:01

Made contact with this one and she seemed interested to get together for some play time but I shied away from the $4 K price. Too bad as she looks like my step-niece and I was digging the fantasy, wrong as it may be.

I don't even give the ex-wife that for alimony and she was "free" in the beginning! LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f09de...4-f7b1ecc13792

**IrishGuy1977** · 10-18-18 23:53

Originally Posted by DrTraveler [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/e9acf...a-e3e886550374

Asked for $1000 for her rent that is due tomorrow. Scam alert. The ones who post the young hot photos are often TGTBT. The real, authentic women who are looking for amazing fun are out there to be found. I've come to realize that posting details on SA encounters on the board is a good way to make them disappear from the site. They are non-pros and they don't want public attention.

I have LOTS of local finds to share and I'd be happy to exchange specific information via PM. Also finds in other cities: New York, San Diego, and others.

Happy hunting!

There is no way she set up that profile. My guess it some dude trying to get money. Maybe an ex boyfriend. No girl would ever come right out and say that she likes it in the ass best. Even if she really does.