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[Al Melrose]

I've stopped counting how many black SW I've fucked in my life. For the most part those are so easy to bag it's not even fun. But I do keep track of the SA girls because each one has a special memory, I was surprised that in a year and a half I wen through 50. When in 3 years before I had 56 or so.

I like stats.

92 out of 106 are under 25.

85 out of 106 are under 20.

4 out of 106 are over 35.

56 out of 106 are white.

38 out of 106 are latina.

4 out of 106 are asian.

8 out of 106 are black.

45 I saw only once.

38 I saw twice.

10 I saw three to five times.

13 I have seen more than 5 times.

I like stats. I took a break for about 5 months because I was dating a regular girl but recently I decided to go back. And you're right, it would be great if we had more input, I'll try to get back on this to share my stories.

I was bored at work and mad that I had never kept stats so I started from memory. I still have it at work, but my SB count from the last two years (about 30) is approaching my civi count. I am 57. I put SW, strip club, AMP and Apt girls in another category, funny thing is I can't remember a decent amount of those. The SW's because the only time I sampled I was pretty drunk. The AMP and Apt, because really nothing special except for a few. I can't remeber if it just a HJ or FS from a bunch of visits or how many times I visited Apts, I should have kept stats. I am still trying to get my first black SA girl. I'm in Chicago and no where near the selection you LA guys get.

[Luv Big Tetas]

The 5 Steps in a Nutshell.

1 - Intro Letter. Talk about yourself and what you have to offer in general terms. End the letter with a question or let them know they should get back to you if everything sounds ok so far. Never re-try if they do not respond unless they are your specific type. Then let them know that and try one more time only.

2 - If they reply. Ask them what their financial expectations are and also let them know you are not a big spender but that you can add value in other ways. End the letter with a question or let them know that if that sounds ok to get back to you.

3 - If they reply. Let them know you have even more added value besides the donation and then let them know what your donation amount is.

4 a. If they reply that everything sounds good so far. Then move them to email or txt. I always go to email first in case things don't work out, then they do not have my cell phone number. Use a disposable email address that's only for SA.

4 b. If they want to negotiate. Me personally I never negotiate, if you do it once you will do it twice and it will take you off your game. I just wish them well and then sometimes they will give in, but mostly they don't.

5 - Now that you have them on email, get specific about what your intimacy expectations are. If they are in agreement move them to txt and set a date.

Once I have them on email I give them the choice of a platonic M&G or a paid date. I never ask for intercourse to take the pressure off. But I find all UTR's are happy to oblige without asking and that 50% of SB's also happily oblige. I will give an SB one paid date sans intercourse to make up her mind. But usually if they don't go all the way on the first date they never will. Usually but not always. Use your best judgement.

Under no circumstances pay for anything more than normal dating expenses for a platonic date. If you give a girl a $ thinking you will get lucky the next time, you are deluding yourself. Most girls know that if a guy does this they can work a G or two out of him before he gets angry and tells her to F off. There are exceptions to every rule, but too few to take the chance, and too many willing girls to have to. And however hot any girl is there are 10 more just as hot. And hot on the outside is no indication of how hot they are on the inside.

I thought I would add my two cents on this, here's how I do things.

1. Intro letter. Send a short message, about a paragraph or so, basically outlining a concise message. I copy and paste that mofo- but have a tailored ending. That means that you can copy the body of the message where you introduce yourself and say a little about you and your experience, and vaguely mention what you're looking for, this is more about showing your personality. Never get straight to the point, this will scare off regular girls and you run a higher chance of getting pros to reply. When you personalize the ending, say at least one or two things about her profile that caught your attention, maybe mention something you two have in common or make a remark about a commnent she made in her profile like if she says she's shy, maybe you can address that. And leave it open ended. Kindly put your text number and say, feel free to reach me. Or something like that, get a google voice number, trust me. The last thing you want is for your real number to end you on that website sexualpredators.com.

2. Wait for her response, if she didn't respond, don't fret. If you really like her. Favorite her and give it a week or two. If she texts you then skip this step. If she writes back saying that she's not comfortable texting and wants to get to know you first, here's where I review her profile again, if she's over 21, dump her, move on. Trust me. More trouble than it's worth. If she's 18 to 21, be patient, tell her it's ok and tell her a little bit more about you, don't mention anything about meeting, ask her a little about her personal life. If she replies wanting to talk money. Don't answer that, be vague, say something like, I understand this process and I know what this is about, but I'd like to get to know you a little more before committing to anything. If she's insisting and starts with the " I don't want to waste your time or mine " speech. Time to bail. Or insist on a phone number, if she refuses and wants to talk money over SA message, bail. Fuck her. She's more trouble than its worth.

3. Getting her to text you is key. I am of the belief that email is delayed, and there are so many other variables, unless you're an email person that checks your email more often than your text, which is like the dudes that pee sitting down.. wtf.. lol
I say try to get OFF email as soon as you can, because once you you get her number, you can gauge if she's real, can't tell you how many show up on my FB, SNAPCHAT, IG, and KIK... , if she's a fake, most SA pros don't want to waste time, so judge how fast she moves, the faster she does, it means she's a cheap date, no more than 120. Or less if you can. Once you text, don't start texting back and forth like if you were in HS and dating her. No more than 20 to 30 exchanges to establish a friendly connection, DO NOT ask to call, or talk on the phone, if you're over 40 you won't understand this but anyone under 30 thinks talking on the phone is weird, and if they're 21 or under, they'll stop talking to you altogether likely. Here is where you want to find out if she's done this before, if she has, let her take the lead and reveal what it's been like, if she asks you, be vauge, say that you'd love to share your stories over coffee or a drink, always give them that option. It makes you come across as a gentlemen but not a square. If she starts talking about wanting to discuss money, and is insisting, I'd say dump her but if you really like her, what I've done is throw out monthly figures, and leave it open ended, if she presses you for details then you say. I'd feel more comfortable discussing this in person, try to avoid texting money over text or email because if things go south these biatches can screencapture you and send it to SA and there goes your membership.

4. Getting that first date, this is the tricky part, because especially with newbies, they will FLAKE, but don't always take it as a bad sign just be aware of it, never be pushy, that increases the likelyhood that they will bail, also always offer a public place but don't INSIST on it, thow it out there that you can meet at your place as well but as an afterthought. If she's adventureous she'll come to your place. I'm not going to share my negotiation tactics, because they again are very personal, and to each his own, because if you're fat, or old, or poor, or ugly, or not good with women, or have low self esteem, whatever, this is where you have to find what is your weakness and strength and try to comensate trust me, every mofo on SA has a weakness of sorts, that's why we are on it, anyone who tells you otherwise if full of caca. Because what works for HollywoodGuy won't work for me and what will work for me might now work for you. The key is, be respectful, be generous and I don't mean money wise, I mean give them your attention, your time and shower them with a feeling that they're important in whatever way you want, whether its with gifts, or deep conversations, or showing them the world. This is what separates the real girls from the cragslist girls that will accept 100 on SA. To each their own but if you're looking for cheap pussy my way isn't for you. Not to say that you have to give them hundreds of dollars, but be fair, be honest about who you are, and what your limitations are, girls will sense it if you're being upfront or if you're bullshitting them, and they'll react accordingly. I was seeing a girl for a while that was happy that I paid her car note every month, and I took one to NY for NYE and didn't give her a dime but just gave her the time of her life. Again. It's all relative. If you treat SA like another CL or an HX. Then you probably won't get the best results out of it.

5. If there's a connection and you guys hit it off. Brother share your story, maybe share how it went down. I'm against passing info on this site because these girls aren't like CL hookers, they want to be the ones to make the choice to let you in. But nothing wrong with sharing stories and who knows, maybe we've been with the same chick. It's all possible. Like I fucked one of the girls that was living with HollywoodGuy, I picked her up next to some swedish furniture store and we fucked in the backseat. Small world.

BEST OF LUCK TO ALL.

[Luv Big Tetas]

Yah, use another IP address or buy a mobile wifi.

I'm curious why I've been able to rejoin, I've been banned about 4 times and each time I just open up a new account with a different email, I delete my cache beforehand and my cookies, I don't know if THAT helps? Because I haven't been kicked out again.

Anyone had a similar experience?

[Luv Big Tetas]

So what's the end game here? I've seen a couple profiles with the same info and figured it was an agency managing girls. Possible LEO or just some person looking to get venmo'd some cash?

Rai is a korean chick she's not a fake, but be careful she's a pro and she packs heat so. Buyer beware, I contactd her about six months ago on a different profile, she had regular pics back then. Again, be careful.

[Luv Big Tetas]

Its both. Looks to get their attention, but no amount of looks can compensate for creepiness, awkwardness, rudeness, stupidity, fake urgency, cockiness, talking about how good your are in bed or your dick size, or lack of confidence.

Humor, directness, confidence, knowledge, entertaining, spontaneity and a little perversion go a long way.

I think that your success is completely related to how well you gauge what her needs are and find the ones that match what you have to offer. Because money will trump all for some, but for others they really want to feel safe and valued, other girls care if you are rich, others care if you're fat, or black, or married, or if you're too old. So it really depends on what she's like, there is no "magic" formula other than you honing in your skills in scanning profiles and learning which ones work best or if you're a stud, learning how to tailor your approach based on her profile.

Happy hunting!

[Luv Big Tetas]

I stopped counting a long time ago, like you say it's not a contest. I wish more people would share as I know over 500 people read this thread on a regular basis.

I've stopped counting how many black SW I've fucked in my life. For the most part those are so easy to bag it's not even fun. But I do keep track of the SA girls because each one has a special memory, I was surprised that in a year and a half I wen through 50. When in 3 years before I had 56 or so.

I like stats.

92 out of 106 are under 25.

85 out of 106 are under 20.

4 out of 106 are over 35.

56 out of 106 are white.

38 out of 106 are latina.

4 out of 106 are asian.

8 out of 106 are black.

45 I saw only once.

38 I saw twice.

10 I saw three to five times.

13 I have seen more than 5 times.

I like stats. I took a break for about 5 months because I was dating a regular girl but recently I decided to go back. And you're right, it would be great if we had more input, I'll try to get back on this to share my stories.

[Luv Big Tetas]

https://www.seeking.com/member/d4e98...0-51fc15097393

"Before you message me, please make sure you can afford me. I came up with a financial formula for my arrangements. Please have a minimum net worth, "MNW", equal to my net worth ($7 M) plus $5 M for each of the following traits you lack: being a non-smoker, the ability to use drugs / alcohol in moderation, a full head of hair, natural erections, a fairly fit body, kindness, intelligence on par with my own, attentiveness on par with my own, security in a relationship (read lack of jealousy), respect for women (e. G. YOUR WIFE), or attractiveness equal to my own. Have another $1 M for every year of age you have on me. If you have an ex entitled to alimony, double your MNW. If you have 2 -ex wives being supported, you clearly never learn, triple your MNW. If you don't have a sense of humor or can't do word problems, quadruple your MNW. On that note, if you lack empathy, you'll need to be a billionaire to get me on my knees. Even then, I'd probably just bite you (I know, not very empathetic). ".

This shows you lack filtering skills my brother.

1. she started in 2013 - means she's seen it all, done it all, and if she's still here. She's a pro. End of story.

2. she's 43, anyone over 25, unless they're fat and ugly are going to have unrealistic expectations, a lot of these women think that age is equivalent to experience. Wrong industry honey.

3. her profile is like a mini book, that's a HUGE RED FLAG. This tells me she has a lot to say, which tells me she is very opinionated, and again see # 1 - she's seen it all. So she knows exactly what she wants and could care less what you want.

4. she's not attractive.

So while I think she's delusional to some extent, you can't bash her if she was a * to you, this is the kind of bird you see the profile, and keep on browsing. Hoefully you'll learn from that.

[HollywoodGuy]

This information is still solid, and I'm up to 106 girls now that I've had the pleasure of banging, I'm a degenerate. But I've treated every single one of them with respect and kindness and have never fucked them over thoughtt I have gotten a few freebies. I still try to keep it in the 150-300 range per meet. The 100 per don't work out and I don't know if it's me but it feels like there's more dudes that have gotten wind of this site.

I stopped counting a long time ago, like you say it's not a contest. I wish more people would share as I know over 500 people read this thread on a regular basis.

[Luv Big Tetas]

I've been on this forum for years, I've been mongering since I was 16, don't ask, I'm a fucked up person. I've seen Baldy rise to fame and then completely disappear. CL become the stuff of legends then relegated to a tragic hooker corner, and Backpage do the same. HX was never for me. Always felt like it was TOO structured, the girls, TOO polished. If I did UBER I'd be a couple grand deep if I got paid for all the miles I've wasted driving down the Western and Figueroa corridors for almost 20 years now. Albeit in the last 4 years it's very rare and now, I'm probably officially retired from that.

So anyway without being long winded. I came across SA 3 years ago, it reminded me of the CL adult gigs section, man. I can't tell you how many "normal" girls I found in that section, girls that didn't have that hard edge, or that emotional disconnect that you see in the hardened professional. The way a girl gets wet, moves, moans. You can tell if you pay attention. In fact there are 3 girls I will still fuck at least once a year, or when they're short on cash, one I found out did porn in 2010, and was the hottest sex I ever had, we fucked for 4 years until she moved to Arizona where she now works at a zoo. Go figure. Or the 18 year old I met who rode me like no one's business. I still see her now and even after 3 kids, at 26 she's still rockin' it. Or my favorite is a girl who I met when she was single, she got married, and I've been fucking her for the last 5 years with that ring on her finger. I paid for her implants. She has a kid with her hubby, there's a chance it could be mine. Who knows.

Anyway the thing I've discovered about SA is that there's 7 categories I put girls into, I should break them down to 10 for a nice even number but so far I have 7.

1. The Pro. The girl that thinks she is the shit, she thinks her time is valuable, and we have to acquiesce to her demands. She dreams with Benjamins. As is honestly a hooker but likes to think that she's better than that. For me one of the dead giveaways is if they tell you that they want a "gift" for meeting because they're time is valuable. Or if their pics are mostly model pics, if they talk about spoiling and gifts, or if they start talking about money right away. These girls generally won't even look at you if you can't shell out 500 per meet. They're usually the hottest girls on SA. But also the most difficult.

2. The Dunce. These girls tend to be younger, 18-20 mostly, they seriously have aspirations that because they're young and hot, that a guy is going to pay them thousands of dollars JUST for their company. This type of girl can be turned into a GEM but the work to do it is just not worth it, unless she's super super super hot. Then. Better put your dick on ice or call up one of your SA Wannabe's to drain the snake in the process.

3. The SA Wannabe. These are the bargain hunts, the black and brown girls that probably belong on CL or BP. They look like girls I'd see on Figueroa, usually from 18-28, mostly black, some latinas and a sprinkle of white girls here and there, usually very trashy. But unlike CL girls they have good attitudes, no pimps, and are grateful for a 100. Most are open to bareback, usually you only fuck them once and move on. But for SA these are the girls that probably get the most action. These are the girls that probably don't even know what wine pairing means. And think Outback steakhouse is fine dining. They can be fun in the sack and cheap. But nothing to write home about.

4. The SA Gems. These are girls that have no business being on SA. They are either really young, no dad, no money and want to live, see the world, experience new things, make them feel special. If you find one of these girls, don't fuck it up by offering her 100. Because she'll just lower her head, shut down, and either cry or head for the door. These kinds of girls take some patience, and affection. But if you do. It pays off big time. It's rare to find one, in 3 years on SA I've found 6. Treat them with respect, show them that you care, small gifts, the occasional shopping spree and you get tight, unprotected clean pussy for days.

5. The Coeds. I love these girls, they tend to be mostly white and asian, or a few latinas / black but are whitewashed. They're not ghetto or from the barrio, usually don't have kids, are younger than 25, and are usually picky so if you're fat or old or really ugly, they'll probably pass unless you offer them big bucks. They're not pros, but unlike the SA wannabe, you'd never find a girl like this on CL or BP. Or with a black pimp. I've paid 120 for a qwikie to some but some I've forked over 300 per meet. It varies, but young tight 20 year old white pussy is a delicacy. At least that's my opinion. These girls tend to be super flaky, so patience is key, but once you meet them once, they will blow your phone up when they want some spending money for a weekend in vegas or if they're short on rent. Seriously. These girls are clingers.

6. The Overqualified. STAY AWAY. These girls are predominately between 26-34 years old, these are mostly girls who are professionals in some field, or models or actresses, and are starting to see that they can't get by, by looks alone, however they have expectations that are much more than it's worth. These girls are the true sugarbabies, these are the girls that tend to be educated or experienced, they are genuinely looking for more than fuck for money, they genuinely want a guy that is going to be the pseudo husband that they haven't been able to bag. A guy that can pay the bills, take them away for the weekend, dine at fine restaurants, the works. These girls probably don't go for guys under 40, and if you're not the type of guy that can fork out 2 k a month, they're out of your league. Learn to profile these types of women and just take a pass, unless you're daddy warbucks and have the cash to subsidize this hottie. Then you're in for a real treat.

7. The trash. The druggies, the backpage hookers, fatties over 200 lbs, these are the fringes of SA. The kind of girls you just go. WTF are you doing here. But some guys have weird tastes so to each his own.

Honestly, SA is a game, fucking is the icing on the cake, really. In my 3 years on SA I've fucked 54 girls, I'm sure there are dudes that have fucked way more, that's cool, I'm not competing with anyone, I've probably met over 100 easy, had 2 relationships, 4 good friends, and a bunch of good stories. What brings me back, is primarily the experience, every time I send an email, there's always that possibility that this girl is going to be AMAZING or it's going to go nowhere, but probably somewhere in between. I'm enclosing my top 10. If any of you have hooked up with these hotties we can swap notes. For their privacy I'm not revealing names or locations.

10. This girl I met in a bar, we talked for hours first time we met, we ended up seeing each other for a few month, best rack I've ever seen on a black girl, period. Unreal. She's a normal girl, I'm sure she has a few daddies, but she's a sweetheart.

9. I met this cutie two years ago when she had JUST turned 18. Tightest you-know-what I've ever experienced. Real sweetheart, very real, honest, vegan.

8. San Pedro was never the same for me when I met this hottie. Best ass I've ever seen. Honduran. Very beautiful face. Loved it when she called me daddy.

7. I only met this one a few times. Too pricey for my book, but she had the softest skin. Amazing tits and just a beautiful personality, but she was on the higher end of my budget.

6. Chased this one for weeks, she was flaky AF. Twice I drove all the way to calabasas only to end up with my balls blue. But when I finally connected. She was a delicacy. But then after a few times she went MIA. =(.

5. I only fucked this once, one night. She would be ranked higher, hotness wise she was the hottest I've ever fucked on SA. She was submissive. Docile. Had a voice that made me want to cum. But she was moving to texas.

4. At first I thought this one was a SA Wannabe, called her at 2 am she told me to come on over to the travelodge, but when I showed up, she was sweet, beautiful, and could take doggie like no one's business. Too bad she moved to Oklahoma.

3. I love Ukrainian women, hottest, submissive in bed, dominant out of bed, great bodies, she was on the pricier side of what I normally do on SA but she was worth it. Great kisser. A dark artist so if you're not deep she can be super detached.

2. She should be #1. Also Ukrainian, met her here, we saw each other for 6 months, never paid her a dime, just bought her stuff, took her on trips, she could drink with the best of them. I miss her. She's in Europe now making someone else happy.

1. This girl is # 1 because she is a rare combination of hotness, beauty, best rack on a female EVER. And also super tight. I would drive 180 miles rountrip to see her, and it was worth it. But then drama in her personal life and she's been MIA.

I'm not here to brag, I'm here to share, it'd be nice if any of you could share. Hollywood is pretty good at that. Props to him, I thought I would throw in my 2 cents, it's been a while since I have.

This information is still solid, and I'm up to 106 girls now that I've had the pleasure of banging, I'm a degenerate. But I've treated every single one of them with respect and kindness and have never fucked them over thoughtt I have gotten a few freebies. I still try to keep it in the 150-300 range per meet. The 100 per don't work out and I don't know if it's me but it feels like there's more dudes that have gotten wind of this site.

[InTight]

Unfortunately this is not only with SA, Chrome became the most popular browser and it is raising concerns:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/4/16...-web-standards

I must admit that I switched to Chrome too as Firefox became slower and slower over the years, but I don't like how Chrome keeps you signed in when using gmail, so for gmail I still use firefox.

I will never install Chrome on any device. Everything is linked back to Google. If there ever was a corporate Big Brother it is Google. If you are trying to be anonymous then stay away from Google. Just saying.

[HollywoodGuy]

Now these four are all UTR's. The kind that bug you to hurry up and meet them asap. All agreed to my offer. Haven't met any of them. But #3 maybe tomorrow (she still hasn't let up), if something better doesn't come along. Like #1 or 2 in the first post.

[HollywoodGuy]

For now all four of these girls (all SB's), have agreed to my offer. But until they actually meet you its always a crap shoot. These are the real SB's. All young, maybe all first timers (except #3). They get excited being new on the site, but then the crazy offers start to roll in. So either they get lucky or get burned, either way it f's up my game.

[HollywoodGuy]

The "white latina". Saw her twice. Nice girl. No transportation. Good kisser. Quirky. Good hip action. No drama. Contact her yourself please. East of DTLA.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1334b...3-8aa64f25c1a1

[HollywoodGuy]

Very friendly girl. Seen her a few times. She will drive to you. Lives in south central. CFS, BBBJ, sknny hard body, no drama. Can take a pounding. Contact her yourself please.

https://www.seeking.com/member/80429...a-134b7fbbe1f5

[Captain Solo]

This ugly old gold-digging ho is not worth $20. Her haughty attitude will get her into big troubles. This is the kind of women that should be avoided like a big pie of shit.

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In case you're wondering, this was the bit that was too much

A2

https://www.seeking.com/member/d4e98...0-51fc15097393

"Before you message me, please make sure you can afford me. I came up with a financial formula for my arrangements. Please have a minimum net worth, "MNW", equal to my net worth ($7 M) plus $5 M for each of the following traits you lack: being a non-smoker, the ability to use drugs / alcohol in moderation, a full head of hair, natural erections, a fairly fit body, kindness, intelligence on par with my own, attentiveness on par with my own, security in a relationship (read lack of jealousy), respect for women (e. G. YOUR WIFE), or attractiveness equal to my own. Have another $1 M for every year of age you have on me. If you have an ex entitled to alimony, double your MNW. If you have 2 -ex wives being supported, you clearly never learn, triple your MNW. If you don't have a sense of humor or can't do word problems, quadruple your MNW. On that note, if you lack empathy, you'll need to be a billionaire to get me on my knees. Even then, I'd probably just bite you (I know, not very empathetic). ".