Ripoff Reports

[Girls1]

Never saw her, but SAME pics as years ago. Have read many reviews back in the day about how she didn't do requested acts, was massage only, and brought 'someone' with her on outcalls.

She's been known to post in both Grand Rapids and Muskegon, and usually posts many ads within a few weeks time.

Again, I didn't see her, but want to warn off the newbies who might look at her, and decide to call. GL.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...e/872143392337

[WayneJWorld]

I'll get into details when I get some time, but I've been seeing her regularly for over 6 months and never would have guessed she would pull this on me, but she cashed & dashed. I've got enough personal info on her to make her life hell.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivian-e...-rapids-371032

Had two sessions with her. She was the lady in the pics and yes place was sketchy. 1st time was because of reviews on them, it was okay but not knock your socks off, 2nd time was because I was driving to meet another provider when she went AWOL. So Vivian took me on short notice. The smell from behind was a turnoff and I just left without finishing. Decided not to go back. Surprised on the reviews of her, not that they are bad but what she's doing now.

[Wolverines]

Using new pictures today.

Sorry you went through that. We definitely appreciate you reporting back!

[Wolverines]

Sorry you went through that. We definitely appreciate you reporting back!

Working together dashers.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/084017460441
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...n/188521899346

I tried to setup with this one a few weeks ago. She was only doing outcall at the time. I tried to setup with her to meet her at a gas station a short distance from my house. She wanted no part of that and the reason obvious. She wanted to be able to dash. I smelled a rat, I was correct. There are so many scams on Let the Games Begin or STG website, it should be ignored as source to setup with a working girl. The risks are much higher than the reward. I say ban the site.

[Benz1]

Most rip-offs can be avoided if you follow these 12 steps.

Take One For The Team Guidelines.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

[Monger01]

Could you elaborate a little otherwise this reads like those fake warnings on stg.
What happened exactly? Helps others learn and tells us what events lead to the ripoff.
Thanks.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/084017460441

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[MrLimpBiscuit]

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/084017460441

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...n/370252112480

[MrLimpBiscuit]

Those post numbers can change so we might as well post the entire review here. Here ya go. And like I said in the Escort forum. Pimps are worthless scum.

What ever her choice of inner failures, she's definatly useing her legs for shooting. Stockings covered her bruises. Just sayin, too bad.

[MrLimpBiscuit]

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/084017460441

[MrLimpBiscuit]

Ripped off,

[Wolverines]

Those post numbers can change so we might as well post the entire review here. Here ya go. And like I said in the Escort forum. Pimps are worthless scum.

The second time I saw her was a disaster! Started good with a great BBBJ. Then she suddenly had to go PEE. After waiting 20 minutes I got up to see what was going on. She was sitting on the can moaning like she was dying. I asked her what's up she said she can't PEE and it hurts. After a few more minutes she came out and said her boyfriend was going to be showing up. I got dressed and in my hast to leave (Grand Rapids INN on Plainfield) I forgot my brand new iWatch on the dresser. As I was going down the stairs 3 nasty looking guys came up and entered the room. I got to the car and called her about my watch. Of coarse she said it wasn't there. I told her that's because her Pimp stole it. She denied that they took it and I was mistaken. One of the dudes came out to his car stuffing cash into his pants pocket. (my cash!) I didn't want to confront him for my own safety. I got his plate and followed him for a few miles. I decided it was a waste of time. In the end a 15 minute BBBJ cost me $450.00. I texted her and told her I was going post this and I hope she never got any more business.

Skip the Games has been a nightmare! Avoid this piece of shit person at all cost!

See my post number 1440 in Escort section.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/017452425385

[Laptop1000]

See my post number 1440 in Escort section.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/017452425385

[Wolverines]

Thanks for reporting this back to the forum! Sorry you went through this. I found her Ad on STG. Does she look like the pictures in the Ad?

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...a/067154866223

WATCH OUT for a con artist that advertise on CityXGuide as LUSCIOUS BEAUTY LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME, age 24,5'3' tall, Blue eye, black hair, DD size jugs. Her picture is fake no where like the real rip off provider. Her ads shows a normal size 24 year old Lady where in real person she is a BBW. , ad claims she is of a mixed racial heritage. Uses cell # 616 6002492, and works out of a house on 419 Eight Street and W, Grand Rapids (Not far from Bridge St, Downtown) Gave her $100 and I fell for the go get a condom trick, would not let me back in her place, even threathen using her brothers to protect her and not giving money back. I screwed up by not walking away, but still got ripped off. BEWARE BEWARE!!

[Bottum]

WATCH OUT for a con artist that advertise on CityXGuide as LUSCIOUS BEAUTY LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME, age 24,5'3' tall, Blue eye, black hair, DD size jugs. Her picture is fake no where like the real rip off provider. Her ads shows a normal size 24 year old Lady where in real person she is a BBW. , ad claims she is of a mixed racial heritage. Uses cell # 616 6002492, and works out of a house on 419 Eight Street and W, Grand Rapids (Not far from Bridge St, Downtown) Gave her $100 and I fell for the go get a condom trick, would not let me back in her place, even threathen using her brothers to protect her and not giving money back. I screwed up by not walking away, but still got ripped off. BEWARE BEWARE!!

[WhiteBoyRick]

Probably seems how he has a total of 3 posts including that one he probably didn't know what section it was in. Just a guess.

Wow I'm really sorry guys. I did not intend to post in ripoff section. I meant to post in review section. I screwed up. I hope someone can move the posting. She definitely is a keeper.