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  1. #11518

    Repeat customer

    I also found it's more delicate to handle it if you repeatedly seeing one specific provider.

    On one side, the service could not only "not go anywhere above NOVA", it could even drop. I remember with this particular provider, I had great massage, connection and standard nova finish at first. I told her I am willing to pay more for DFK or for her to take top off etc. But she always refuses. Maybe she feels I am just there for the talk and HE, she started slacking on the massage. She used to do deep tissue at first, on subsequent visit she would just put on oil and do some stroke and light touch. Those are much easier to do without spending much energy.

    On the other side, there is this expectation service will progress after you seeing one several times, but I actually want to let it stay the same. I am already paying 80+80 for DFK and top off all that. For a little more, I would be able go to those Korean agencies for GFE with nice looking young girls. I don't want to spend more to get more service. One time I asked for BJ, I said I brought 80 tip and she said that's not enough. I pretend that since it's my 1st time with her, I didn't bring more and I am already happy and ok without BJ. Now I am afraid to go back to her, what if she ask "why don't you bring more money, you know I can offer more and you know the price".

    With all these complexity, sometimes I feel it's more like handling a relationship with a repeat provider. We went to AMPs to escape the daily suffocating relationship handling family life. I would rather just risk the unknown and go to a new AMP or try a new provider.

  2. #11517

    Mimi at Chantilly Smile Therapy

    My experience with older therapists is different.

    I saw people in this forum talked good about Rebecca at smile therapy and so I called them up. A deep, coarse voice answered. When I asked for Rebecca, she said just come. I thought she might be the MMS and then I just went over without pressing further if I really goanna get Rebecca or not.

    Their location is on the back of an office plaza, facing a pond and wood. I found these AMPs generally all pretty good at picking private spot to avoid prying eyes. As with any suburb office plaza, plenty parking spots.

    After standard double door and bell / camera etc, a Korean lady must be in her 50's (at least) opened the door. She had typical big face with flat feature and small eyes. When she started to talk, it's the same raspy voice on the phone. She sounded like been smoking for years and she come with matching dark skin tone that feels like fumigated with smoke.

    At this point, I still don't know whether she will be my therapist, or she is the MMS. That time I just started and still very inexperience at this. Now I think about it, there was subtle clues to tell. She wears the jean shorts which seems to be the standard wardrobe for AMP providers. She doesn't have shoes on, but when she walk she pretend to be on high heels.

    After she showed me the room and asked if I want the shower, I realized that she was the one goanna do me. I am disappointed with her look and voice, but I am too embarrassed to ask to switch or cancel the whole thing. Or I don't want to hurt her feeling or something. I have always had hard time refusing people, which I would regret many times down the road.

    Table shower is good. Shower room also seems newer and nicer, with all the granite dcor. Massage is actually very good. Her hand is hard, may be from years of massage. Her English is bad, can't start a conversation. I think she massaged me a long time, may be 45-50 min.

    Then comes the flip. I think I am a visual person and like soft talk. Without all these, I just can't get a hard on. I am way pass the age of just bang anything that moves. There weren't any conversation stimulation either. She tried for quite few minutes, but I am still all quiet down there. She finally got up and said all done. Feels like she wants to wrap the session. But I have not released yet! What do you mean all done? I asked her to put some oil on it and see if that help. She obliged and start work on it again. This time she sped up the up and down motion. But I just don't respond to those and eventually I gave up and told her give it a rest.

    Even though there is no NOVA "finish", her massage was good. There wasn't any touching, roaming or seeing any skin, and so I decided to tip 40. When she got the tip, she said "you can give me a massage". It stunted me a bit, obviously she meant "with that sort of tip, you can give me a massage" and she was not happy. I was embarrassed and can only dry laugh and said "my massage won't be as good as you".

    If you want legit massage, you might come out happy with this provider on this place. But if you are looking for extra sauce, I suggest try other places or other providers who might have available in this place. Till this days, I have yet to experience the legendary Rebecca. It's also from this experience, I vowed to myself, if you see someone you don't feel right, or you are facing that "should have" moment, you should ask to switch or if they can't switch, just quit. There shouldn't be any consequences. Later, at other place, I insisted on switching, and eventually I got a never married, 20 ish Chinese girl. That will be another story to report.

  3. #11516

    Counterplay

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexbear  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    Been following along, decided it was time to register and post when I have something worth sharing.

    One thing I have found, is that it can pay to be a regular at a particular AMP. Once they get to know you, things can open up. I found that happen at a few AMPs. I have been to most of the AMPs in the Arlington area. I look at Rubmaps, and if a place has a lot of reviews, even if I'm not a member of Rubmaps and can't read the reviews, I figure the place is not boring. I've picked up some tips from this site, and thanks for that.
    Great advice, on the flip side of the coin, some places I've gone multiple times and the service never went anywhere above a NOVA. I remember when I first gotten into this monger business I was young and stupid and there was a girl over at palm tree (now called new paradise) where I would go every week. I kept thinking I could get further with every visit. She even made promises that it would happen next time and when next time came it was one excuse after the other. I was stupidly overpaying as well, so don't let an AMP become a money sink, if there's no improvement in service don't waste your money thinking it will change. Got to know when to hold them and know when to fold them.

  4. #11515

    Shiiit

    Quote Originally Posted by VaPlay  [View Original Post]
    Never carry more than what you want to spend. Never bring belongings that you don't want to loose. Not just for AMP's but anywhere you wish to play. I had a provider steal the gold chain off my neck while she was riding me, never forgot that one. In the heat of the moment anything can and will happen. You won't realize it until the euphoria wears off.
    If that happened to me, I don't even think I'd be angry, I'd be impressed; that's some catwoman shit right there haha.

  5. #11514

    Angel. (Fairfax).

    First. I'm not great at typing on my phone.

    Called and asked for appointment.

    No issues fair English.

    I arrived and the outside door leads directly to stairs up to a second door with a bell and camera. I was let in by "J". She was also my masseuse. 5'5" black long upper back length hair. 120 to 135 lbs. Age 25 to 35. B cup at best. It was hard to tell her age. She smiled a lot and that always makes ladies look younger and prettier in my opinion!!

    I was asked if I wanted Shower and I declined I was looking for massage to start and I like to get my table showers after to clean up. It was no problem.

    She collected the house. 8 and left the room for a bit while I got comfortable. When she returned she inquired about how I wanted hard med or soft. I said med then soft then hard and that got a laugh. Massage was good and we chatted a bit during it about my work and schedule as I was there on a work day mid day. I especially appreciated that she used almost all her body to massage me up to and including during a very nice "nova" finish to the appointment.

    The entire massage took longer than I expected so I skipped the Table Shower at the end and hurried off to a haircut.

    Tipped .6 so total $.4 I would recommend and I will be returning.

  6. #11513
    Quote Originally Posted by Sexbear  [View Original Post]
    Just another tip. I tried Lime therapy once, brought my wallet with me, the girl stole $40 out of it. I didn't notice until I left. Made me feel stupid, but taught me a lesson. I never take in my wallet, and only bring cash I don't mind spending.
    Never carry more than what you want to spend. Never bring belongings that you don't want to loose. Not just for AMP's but anywhere you wish to play. I had a provider steal the gold chain off my neck while she was riding me, never forgot that one. In the heat of the moment anything can and will happen. You won't realize it until the euphoria wears off.

  7. #11512

    Anyone tried Pinky at Annandale

    Hi,

    Has anyone tried Pinky at Annandale for a massage session? She advertise as sensual body rub for sometime back in bedpage massage section, but I doubt no her quality. If anyone tried before, can you please suggest on her service and overall session quality. She might also use fake pics or pretty old pics. Need some intel. Thanks.

    Regards.

  8. #11511

    Don't bring your wallet

    Just another tip. I tried Lime therapy once, brought my wallet with me, the girl stole $40 out of it. I didn't notice until I left. Made me feel stupid, but taught me a lesson. I never take in my wallet, and only bring cash I don't mind spending.

  9. #11510

    First post

    Hey guys,

    Been following along, decided it was time to register and post when I have something worth sharing.

    One thing I have found, is that it can pay to be a regular at a particular AMP. Once they get to know you, things can open up. I found that happen at a few AMPs. I have been to most of the AMPs in the Arlington area. I look at Rubmaps, and if a place has a lot of reviews, even if I'm not a member of Rubmaps and can't read the reviews, I figure the place is not boring. I've picked up some tips from this site, and thanks for that.

  10. #11509
    Quote Originally Posted by GilBang  [View Original Post]
    Couldn't have said it better myself. I have too experienced the older AMP girls or MMS at a couple of places and the experiences have been similar to what you've said. Sometimes it takes a few visits for them to get comfortable with you, but once they know you as soon as you call basically once you get there the place is closed for the time you're with them and all is good. For me, those times have actually been more enjoyable to have the older MMS rock my world, than the younger provider who just wants to finish me off quickly.
    This is definitely true. I once went to a AMP in green belt only mms was available which I opted for abs man this was the greatest experience I'd ever had. MMS made sure that I was well taken care of. I enjoyed BBBJ, 2 popsand an excellent massage. So giving mms a chance can pay high dividends.

  11. #11508

    Bamboo

    In support of discussion regarding the effectiveness of the massage technicians over the age of 40+ -- Both ladies at BT in Springfield qualify.

    Both are very nice ladies -- they are happy to see customers and treat you as respected guests.

    Both provide excellent massage.

    I have never been shorted on time.

    Regret Bamboo lacks a TS.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

  12. #11507
    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    Don't discount the older AMP girls, or even (or especially) the MMS or owner if you're ever so lucky. There is sometimes a lower age limit to the guy with whom an older AMP gal will want to deal with. But otherwise, unless you're an immature or overly aggressive or grabby sort, you'll have some very memorable times if you're willing to swing with a lady who might be as much as 25 years your senior. If you can be open-minded and put your prejudices on hold, a lot of doors can open up for you. Just sayin'. And, as another member here advises: "Always be kind to (all) the ladies."

    Roman
    Couldn't have said it better myself. I have too experienced the older AMP girls or MMS at a couple of places and the experiences have been similar to what you've said. Sometimes it takes a few visits for them to get comfortable with you, but once they know you as soon as you call basically once you get there the place is closed for the time you're with them and all is good. For me, those times have actually been more enjoyable to have the older MMS rock my world, than the younger provider who just wants to finish me off quickly.

  13. #11506

    Right on

    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    Just a quick word to offer some advice, for whatever it's worth: Don't be too quick to discount an older provider, even the mamasan, if you happen to draw that straw at an AMP. Although it's not a universal guarantee, trust me when I say that an older AMP woman can give you an experience that the younger ones haven't even learned yet. Older woman aren't every monger's cup of tea, but many other long-time mongers here can back me up on this point. These women might not have. And, in fact, won't have. The nubile bodies of the younger girls. But they usually have a lot more sensuality, fewer inhibitions, and (maybe not surprisingly) a libido that is as strong as that of the younger girls. And, they're also quite flattered when a monger, particularly a younger monger, asks them to provide the session. Think of it from the other way around, how we older mongers seek the PTYs at the AMPs. It's the same with the older AMP girls: They are equally turned on by a younger guy. And if you ever manage to ingratiate yourself with one of these older AMP women, hang onto your seat. You will be treated to some intense and thoroughly enjoyable times. It might take some work and convincing, at first, since many are ashamed that their bodies are no longer sleek and tight. Many who have small tits are shy, believing that American men only want well-endowed girls. So, it's up to you to make them comfortable and convince them that they're just fine the way the are.

    I've had a number of older AMP ladies during my mongering times, and to a one they ALL gave me fantastic experiences. When I was in my mid-30's, there was one gal who owned the AMP that I used to frequent. She took a shine to me at some point, and whenever I would show up it was a 50-50 toss-up (which eventually got closer to 90-10) as to whether she would take care of me or hand me off to one of the younger therapists. At the time she was in her late 50's, something I was later able to confirm through other means. For the first couple sessions, things were Standard NoVa. But with the third and every subsequent session with her, it was no holds barred. And the sessions never ended at 60 minutes. Yes, she was probably 20-30 pounds overweight, her tits were droopy, and she was not as tight as a 20-year old, but she was very responsive and would often cowgirl the heck out me (unless she wanted the experience of deep penetration that mish offers). Eventually, she decided to retire and closed her shop.

    I also had another gal who used to manage (didn't own) one AMP but also worked at another AMP of the same owner, who also knew me. When I first approached her (at the first AMP) about taking care of me, she replied, "But I old lady, honey. " (She was early 50's.) I assured her that she wasn't old in my view, but she still demurred. This gal eventually disappeared from the first AMP, and I was not aware she was at another nearby AMP. Sometime later, when I'd gotten to know the owner, the owner informed me that this gal was at the other AMP and had actually asked about me. Well, that was interesting news. I paid a visit to the second AMP and, lo and behold! She was the one who came to the door to greet me. After the preliminaries, she took me to the TS room in back and gave me a very nice scrub down. Then, after she was finished, she began administering a BBBJ. Yes, in the TS room. I decided to test my luck and asked if she'd ever "done it" in the shower. She left for a moment without saying a thing, leaving me laying on the shower table with the water running, and returned about 30 seconds later. Still without saying a single word, she climbed onto the table and mounted me. After about 30 seconds, she climbed off, turned the water off, helped dry me off, and took me to the room. For the next 45 minutes, it was Shangri-La. The same was true on subsequent visits. (This AMP also closed in the midst of the 2012 fears among AMP owners in the NoVA area, and I lost touch with her afterwards. She, too, was no looker. Not ugly or homely, just not a looker, probably also about 20 pounds overweight and 32-B upstairs. But she more than compensated for it in many other ways.).

    These are just two of many experiences, but they serve to highlight the possibilities of getting to know older AMP women. And, there's another benefit: They will introduce you to their girlfriends at the AMP, so that when they are busy, the girlfriend will know how to handle you. Moreover, if the woman is the MMS or owner, you're often golden. The only thing to remember to do is to treat them well and with respect. Don't reveal secrets, and bring them small gifts on occasion. (I used to bring things like one of those shrimp-and-cocktail sauce dishes from Giant, or a box of pastries from a local bakery. And, at Christmas and Chinese New Year, I'd bring some small but tasteful gifts that they could use or enjoy. Eventually, whenever I'd visit, they would haul me into the office, where they had their sofas, etc. , and chat for a while until one of the girls would say something like "My turn. Let's go." If you ever get to the point where they trust you to come and sit with them in the office, even at busy times, you are in like Flynn. Trust me. And from then on, it's all up to you.).

    So, in conclusion and just as a word for what it's worth: Don't discount the older AMP girls, or even (or especially) the MMS or owner if you're ever so lucky. There is sometimes a lower age limit to the guy with whom an older AMP gal will want to deal with. But otherwise, unless you're an immature or overly aggressive or grabby sort, you'll have some very memorable times if you're willing to swing with a lady who might be as much as 25 years your senior. If you can be open-minded and put your prejudices on hold, a lot of doors can open up for you. Just sayin'. And, as another member here advises: "Always be kind to (all) the ladies."

    Roman
    Most if not all of my fond memories of MPs are because of the older gals, they tend to be more pleasant.

    , more skilled, and more willing than the younger providers. Some of the sexiest ladies I've been with are in their 60's but look half as old. Could be the antioxidants in green tea preventing all that rust.

  14. #11505

    Older AMP ladies

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWilson898  [View Original Post]
    Far East therapy (Chantilly).
    - definitely got the mamasan.
    - she gave an amazing massage, better than I've gotten at non HE places.
    - very clean table shower, very clean set up.
    - I asked for her to lose the top and we agreed on 70.
    - she mounted the table and nibbled all over, first time they haven't just placed my hand on breast.
    - wonderful technique. Truly a great job.
    - did an extra bit of massage afterwards cause she noticed I was tight in my neck. Like I said, amazing massage.


    K & j wellness Reston VA.
    - I was greeted by a tall young girl in scrubs who took me back and I was very intrigued.
    - she asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes. Then passed me off to an old woman. I was disappointed.
    - table shower was crazy dark, as was the room.
    - woman who gave massage was Lilly (yay I finally got and remembered a name). Said she had been there for like 10 days.
    - table shower was very thorough, best I've received.
    - massage wasn't great, she did use a little bit of half ass walking on my back.
    - teasing was next to nothing.
    - I asked her to lose the top and she said she was shy so I was like ok I guess not, but then she did lose the top and kept her back to me as she gave the HE. Did not like her technique.
    - as we were leaving she said "come back and we get you with better looking girl" I was like oh alright that young girl in scrubs, but then she took me to employee only room and waved at another older, slightly more attractive woman and said "her next time" so I probably won't go back. Unless someone knows if you eventually get the young taller girl.
    Just a quick word to offer some advice, for whatever it's worth: Don't be too quick to discount an older provider, even the mamasan, if you happen to draw that straw at an AMP. Although it's not a universal guarantee, trust me when I say that an older AMP woman can give you an experience that the younger ones haven't even learned yet. Older woman aren't every monger's cup of tea, but many other long-time mongers here can back me up on this point. These women might not have. And, in fact, won't have. The nubile bodies of the younger girls. But they usually have a lot more sensuality, fewer inhibitions, and (maybe not surprisingly) a libido that is as strong as that of the younger girls. And, they're also quite flattered when a monger, particularly a younger monger, asks them to provide the session. Think of it from the other way around, how we older mongers seek the PTYs at the AMPs. It's the same with the older AMP girls: They are equally turned on by a younger guy. And if you ever manage to ingratiate yourself with one of these older AMP women, hang onto your seat. You will be treated to some intense and thoroughly enjoyable times. It might take some work and convincing, at first, since many are ashamed that their bodies are no longer sleek and tight. Many who have small tits are shy, believing that American men only want well-endowed girls. So, it's up to you to make them comfortable and convince them that they're just fine the way the are.

    I've had a number of older AMP ladies during my mongering times, and to a one they ALL gave me fantastic experiences. When I was in my mid-30's, there was one gal who owned the AMP that I used to frequent. She took a shine to me at some point, and whenever I would show up it was a 50-50 toss-up (which eventually got closer to 90-10) as to whether she would take care of me or hand me off to one of the younger therapists. At the time she was in her late 50's, something I was later able to confirm through other means. For the first couple sessions, things were Standard NoVa. But with the third and every subsequent session with her, it was no holds barred. And the sessions never ended at 60 minutes. Yes, she was probably 20-30 pounds overweight, her tits were droopy, and she was not as tight as a 20-year old, but she was very responsive and would often cowgirl the heck out me (unless she wanted the experience of deep penetration that mish offers). Eventually, she decided to retire and closed her shop.

    I also had another gal who used to manage (didn't own) one AMP but also worked at another AMP of the same owner, who also knew me. When I first approached her (at the first AMP) about taking care of me, she replied, "But I old lady, honey. " (She was early 50's.) I assured her that she wasn't old in my view, but she still demurred. This gal eventually disappeared from the first AMP, and I was not aware she was at another nearby AMP. Sometime later, when I'd gotten to know the owner, the owner informed me that this gal was at the other AMP and had actually asked about me. Well, that was interesting news. I paid a visit to the second AMP and, lo and behold! She was the one who came to the door to greet me. After the preliminaries, she took me to the TS room in back and gave me a very nice scrub down. Then, after she was finished, she began administering a BBBJ. Yes, in the TS room. I decided to test my luck and asked if she'd ever "done it" in the shower. She left for a moment without saying a thing, leaving me laying on the shower table with the water running, and returned about 30 seconds later. Still without saying a single word, she climbed onto the table and mounted me. After about 30 seconds, she climbed off, turned the water off, helped dry me off, and took me to the room. For the next 45 minutes, it was Shangri-La. The same was true on subsequent visits. (This AMP also closed in the midst of the 2012 fears among AMP owners in the NoVA area, and I lost touch with her afterwards. She, too, was no looker. Not ugly or homely, just not a looker, probably also about 20 pounds overweight and 32-B upstairs. But she more than compensated for it in many other ways.).

    These are just two of many experiences, but they serve to highlight the possibilities of getting to know older AMP women. And, there's another benefit: They will introduce you to their girlfriends at the AMP, so that when they are busy, the girlfriend will know how to handle you. Moreover, if the woman is the MMS or owner, you're often golden. The only thing to remember to do is to treat them well and with respect. Don't reveal secrets, and bring them small gifts on occasion. (I used to bring things like one of those shrimp-and-cocktail sauce dishes from Giant, or a box of pastries from a local bakery. And, at Christmas and Chinese New Year, I'd bring some small but tasteful gifts that they could use or enjoy. Eventually, whenever I'd visit, they would haul me into the office, where they had their sofas, etc. , and chat for a while until one of the girls would say something like "My turn. Let's go." If you ever get to the point where they trust you to come and sit with them in the office, even at busy times, you are in like Flynn. Trust me. And from then on, it's all up to you.).

    So, in conclusion and just as a word for what it's worth: Don't discount the older AMP girls, or even (or especially) the MMS or owner if you're ever so lucky. There is sometimes a lower age limit to the guy with whom an older AMP gal will want to deal with. But otherwise, unless you're an immature or overly aggressive or grabby sort, you'll have some very memorable times if you're willing to swing with a lady who might be as much as 25 years your senior. If you can be open-minded and put your prejudices on hold, a lot of doors can open up for you. Just sayin'. And, as another member here advises: "Always be kind to (all) the ladies."

    Roman
    Last edited by Roamin Roman; 09-24-18 at 19:59. Reason: adjust the title

  15. #11504

    Fake boobs Jenny at New Sky Therapy, Herndon

    Based on some good reviews before for this place, I decided to give it a try. Called and asked who is available for my appointment slot. They seemed reluctant to give out the names and just say you never know whose turn will be for that time. I knew therapist matters more than AMP place itself but decided to try it out.

    After getting to the address, it's in a strip mall with plenty parking. Their location is well hidden and in the inner most of the plaza, so very good privacy aspect. There is no business name and no open sign. So you better know which suite is actually the place.

    Standard double door with bell and camera stuff and opened the door come a 40 ish Korean. She is kind of plain looking with jean short and a halter top. At this point, I knew I can still bail if I am really not happy about the look, from previous experience. But what kept me there is she got a big rack popping out from her halter top. I thought to myself, wth, at least not a grandma this time.

    They got table shower, usual stuff, nothing memorable there. Then back to the room. I asked her name and she said Jenny. Massage is average. She did lot of light touch. Maybe she think that's teasing, but that doesn't do anything for me. Her English is bad, no communication. I tried to do some small talk, but only thing I can get out from her is single word. Maybe it is just me, I'd like have some sort of connection either verbally or touch or something. Simple mechanical motion just won't do for me, so I knew this is going to be bad.

    Little less than 30 min, comes the flip. Without much word or teasing or pretending we don't know what I was there for, she started doing her stuff. I asked her to slow down and pointed to her big breast. She apparently understood and wipe out her breast without much negotiation. Wahlah, come before me big fake boobs. I grab on it and start to rub it. Even though it's fake, it still feels good on my hands. It is very soft and you don't feel anything uneven or hard inside. I was wondering: hmm, she got a really good P.S. Job. We all know how plastic surgery is widely available in Korea. I think this is the only high point of this session, soon I am done while holding her fake boobs in my hand.

    Now there is still 20 min left! I try to lay there and give me plenty time to enjoy the afterglow. She started the cleanup work and plenty of hot towel. I saw she also started wipe clean her breast. I thought that's really uncalled for. It's just hand holding and no fluid exchanged, there is really no need to clean her breast in front of customer. But whatever.

    I thought even though it's not a really happy ending without much of emotional connection, at least I should get a good massage out of it. I didn't get a good night sleep and my neck is tight, I asked her to give more massage on my neck and shoulder. She obliged and apparently just doing a perfunctory job.

    5 minutes later, she find an excuse and got out of door. After she came back, as I was laying there, she started to put socks on me. This time I have to point out to her, there is still 15 min left for my 1 hour appointment. She reluctantly did more superficial work and stopped again 5 min later.

    This time it's just embarrassing and I couldn't ask not to short my session anymore. K, then, I was thinking should I tip more for her little above NOVA standard roaming. Now with the session short, no higher tips! Total damaged 80 house + 40 tips.

    As I am walking out, she opened another door and seems want to show me to another woman. Sitting inside is an even older woman with oily face and heavy make up. I don't know what's this for. Maybe the other woman is MMS, and she want the MMS to get to know me. But whatever. Sometimes you wonder you just unlucky and got the bad one, and maybe other therapist is younger and better looking. But with both of them looks like this, I will never come back to this place again.

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