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[SlyshyGuy]

No. GFE usually means BBBJ, NOT BBFS. GFE has never been synonymous with BBFS here in California. PSE is BBFS by default. Which is why usually if PSE is offered, it's an addon or upsell. GFE is almost always included in the default rate.

You pretty much said the same thing I said. GFE =/= BBFS, which is GFE "does not equal" BBFS.

[MinorLeague]

This is why I do not use jargon or euphemisms like PSE, GFE, etc, when pre-negotiating. I simply ask them if they will kiss with tongue and fuck without a condom. Leaves a lot less room for misunderstandings, or faux misunderstandings.

Agreed. Where I am independents and agencies who advertise as PSE never offer BBFS.

[KingOfFours]

I agree completely.

When dealing with a new prostitute my first question is:

- Are you okay with PSE?

If they say yes, then I ask if they are okay with creampies.

If they say no then I move onto the next one.

There should be no doubt that PSE ALWAYS means condom-free.

Unfortunately alot of girls say whatever it takes to get the cash in their hand before giving you a long list of "don'ts".

This is why I do not use jargon or euphemisms like PSE, GFE, etc, when pre-negotiating. I simply ask them if they will kiss with tongue and fuck without a condom. Leaves a lot less room for misunderstandings, or faux misunderstandings.

[GoodBoy88]

Even though there's so many different variations of GFE, by default GFE =/= BBFS.

No. GFE usually means BBBJ, NOT BBFS. GFE has never been synonymous with BBFS here in California. PSE is BBFS by default. Which is why usually if PSE is offered, it's an addon or upsell. GFE is almost always included in the default rate.

[SlyshyGuy]

Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.

I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.

Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.

I couldn't agree more. Those types of hobbyists just help promote the ever growing number of non-GFE ladies days. Some even coin the term lite-GFE, which is no different than non-GFE.

[ChrisPoontang]

Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.

I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.

Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.

I agree completely.

When dealing with a new prostitute my first question is:

- Are you okay with PSE?

If they say yes, then I ask if they are okay with creampies.

If they say no then I move onto the next one.

There should be no doubt that PSE ALWAYS means condom-free.

Unfortunately alot of girls say whatever it takes to get the cash in their hand before giving you a long list of "don'ts".

[UltraCreamy]

It doesn't. GFE is vague. It can include kissing, deep FK, spooning, licking, DATO, DATY, BBBJ, CoF, maybe CIM, maybe camelslide, but still is CFS. Some might do BBFS because they are just horny and don't care. Some will do BBFS but won't kiss, DFK. So it isn't GFE. That why it is YMMV. GFE in some states is wine and dine / sugar baby. CA is all business.

PSE is a trip to Greece, CIM, COF, CIP, CIA, Greece to m, and other fetishes rolled into one.

Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.

I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.

Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.

[AverageGuy82]

Yes this is true. Kay's version of PSE is BBFS, which is why she says to choose beforehand. That way she quotes her requested rate and expects it in full. Like someone said, she did the PSE date at a way lower quoted rate for him at least.

It doesn't. GFE is vague. It can include kissing, deep FK, spooning, licking, DATO, DATY, BBBJ, CoF, maybe CIM, maybe camelslide, but still is CFS. Some might do BBFS because they are just horny and don't care. Some will do BBFS but won't kiss, DFK. So it isn't GFE. That why it is YMMV. GFE in some states is wine and dine / sugar baby. CA is all business.

PSE is a trip to Greece, CIM, COF, CIP, CIA, Greece to m, and other fetishes rolled into one.

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[PhantomPhx69]

Even though there's so many different variations of GFE, by default GFE =/= BBFS.

It doesn't. GFE is vague. It can include kissing, deep FK, spooning, licking, DATO, DATY, BBBJ, CoF, maybe CIM, maybe camelslide, but still is CFS. Some might do BBFS because they are just horny and don't care. Some will do BBFS but won't kiss, DFK. So it isn't GFE. That why it is YMMV. GFE in some states is wine and dine / sugar baby. CA is all business.

PSE is a trip to Greece, CIM, COF, CIP, CIA, Greece to m, and other fetishes rolled into one.

[SlyshyGuy]

I think that a girlfriend would provide b are services and of course a Porn Star. So am I wrong to think an add stating GFE is BBFS?

Even though there's so many different variations of GFE, by default GFE =/= BBFS.

[ChrisPoontang]

I think that a girlfriend would provide b are services and of course a Porn Star. So am I wrong to think an add stating GFE is BBFS?

Yes you are wrong to think that.

Thats why this particular thread exists.

[InTight]

I think that a girlfriend would provide b are services and of course a Porn Star. So am I wrong to think an add stating GFE is BBFS?

[AverageGuy82]

What date type did you agree on beforehand? I know that she offers GFE and PSE. She told me to let her know which one I wanted before confirming. Only reason I didn't go is because she was asking for 5 Ben's friends for the PSE date.

Has anyone seen here recently for BBFS? I saw her about 4 months ago and no BBFS was included.

[CrunchEazy]

She is now Juicy. Chocolate on hx.

Has anyone seen here recently for BBFS? I saw her about 4 months ago and no BBFS was included.