Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

**Jayce Dragon** · 09-19-18 21:49

My thing is that if you are going to charge so much for your massage services w / a HE, then your run techniques better be damn good. Because if not then all you're paying for is an expensive ass handjob. She's not giving you no head or anything. And it aint like she some kind of porn star or anything. You have to earn your wage. I just talked with a chick from Dallas about shooting a fetish video with her. She charges $200/ Hr in her sessions. I've never paid anything that lucrative, but, if you look on her IG and other social media handles the girl has a neat fanbase. So I can understand the $200/ Hr because she put in her work to get there. Most of these girls just want a high wage just because they are women.

**Bismark** · 09-19-18 19:25

Originally Posted by LowKeyg [View Original Post]

Price seems to be steadily climbing and yet service level remains about the same if not worse unless you have a GTG. But I mean part of hobbying are the choices. Kamilia is awesome for me but sometimes I want a chocolate dessert. Common hr price quoted seems to be 180/ hr. I NEVER pay more than 150/ hr unless it's kamilia. And that is rare. When I first started hobbying here average was 120/ hr. And that was for a pretty solid 7 lineup (dunno if you guys saw Lacey when she was here).

Is it GPS. Is it inflation. Are some of you giving in to GPS? Maybe it's just me. I never do short stays because I'm not a one pump chump nor am I cheap but I know value and 150/ hr for a place like grand rapids better land you FS and most any extra you ask for. Is the crack rock (jk I know its heroin) really that good that these girls think ill pay 180 for an hour of them pretending and half assedly serving? Palmela Handerson is going to get a lot of mileage til the holidays I can tell.

A good economy floats all boats. The general economy has been pretty good since about 2012 and has heated up lately even more. As more money comes into leisure activities, the prices rise some. I suspect that a $30 difference given the product is not going to be much of a disincentive for most.

I remember a time not too long ago when it was typical for an hour to be 200 and really well respected providers were getting 300 or more an hour. While the days of the old boards are now long gone all the prices crashed after 2008, they'll be back up again soon enough most likely.

That said, I was told today by a massage girl that she wanted 120 for full nude (no touching) and that was a deal because she usually gets 200 and that an hour is really 29 minutes long and massage gals don't jack people off. The economy's not that good. There is definitely some GPS floating around.

**LowKeyg** · 09-19-18 16:13

Price seems to be steadily climbing and yet service level remains about the same if not worse unless you have a GTG. But I mean part of hobbying are the choices. Kamilia is awesome for me but sometimes I want a chocolate dessert. Common hr price quoted seems to be 180/ hr. I NEVER pay more than 150/ hr unless it's kamilia. And that is rare. When I first started hobbying here average was 120/ hr. And that was for a pretty solid 7 lineup (dunno if you guys saw Lacey when she was here).

Is it GPS. Is it inflation. Are some of you giving in to GPS? Maybe it's just me. I never do short stays because I'm not a one pump chump nor am I cheap but I know value and 150/ hr for a place like grand rapids better land you FS and most any extra you ask for. Is the crack rock (jk I know its heroin) really that good that these girls think ill pay 180 for an hour of them pretending and half assedly serving? Palmela Handerson is going to get a lot of mileage til the holidays I can tell.

**ApsGuy** · 09-03-18 09:53

Originally Posted by Akenathon [View Original Post]

Ok guys, I pulled the trigger I opened an account in SA I found a few girls that I know personally, I found a few BP and CL girls and the funny thing I found a cousin yeah I found a cousin LOL Man I don't know what to say of course I use a fake pic, I'll try to have a blind date with her and I'll fuck her cause she is pretty LOL.

Please report back if and when the Deed, Happens.

**Bismark** · 08-06-18 09:53

Thanks to all who replied. I appreciate the feedback.

**Charlie441** · 08-05-18 18:04

Originally Posted by Bismark [View Original Post]

She wanted $100 for dress down to panties and over the panties roaming which I declined. I offered her $100 if she would lick my nipples (feel free to comment; I won't respond. It feels good to me). She declined.

What followed was a topless HE with over the clothes roaming downstairs. Normally, I would tip $60 for this but the massage was solid, the teasing excellent, and the HE outstanding so I went $80.

It wasn't worth $100 tip for a standard but great massage situation, even by a hottie. $60 is an upped amt, as it's usually $40 for the hour, by default. If the hottie wants her top off and you're Wow about her, yeah, $60 is pretty usual for a great experience we like. $80 tip? She kept her skirt on, gave you a standard HE. Her being hot doesn't constitute $100 instead. The standard "market price" for an hour tip is $60 for your situation with a topless hottie, IMO. You gave $80. Above market price, definitely. Her wanting $100 is ridiculous.

She offered to get down to her panties for $100, and she was only one step before that (topless, let you roam). $80 is one step below $100. So it is fitting. No, you don't owe her anything. You didn't go below market price, you went a bit above. You paid her in accordance with her offer you didn't take, based on what she provided.

**Bismark** · 08-04-18 01:19

Originally Posted by NoseJelly [View Original Post]

Biz, don't sweat the difficult lady. But, please enlighten us on the less attractive lady! She sounds like fun.

In the interest of not getting anyone in difficulty with their employer, please PM me for that particular detail.

**NoseJelly** · 08-03-18 21:40

Biz, don't sweat the difficult lady. But, please enlighten us on the less attractive lady! She sounds like fun.

**Girls1** · 08-03-18 18:55

I wouldn't go extra $, but that's me. Go with your gut, and pay what she earns.

I would be interested in the other 'less attractive woman' if you have it.

Originally Posted by Bismark [View Original Post]

So, I recently got a massage from a smoking hot woman I had not seen before. I'll file a report on that in the appropriate place once I settle my mind on whether I owe her another $20 or not. Hopefully, the good folks here can offer some advice on that score.

After the flip, we started getting into it. She wanted $100 for dress down to panties and over the panties roaming which I declined. I offered her $100 if she would lick my nipples (feel free to comment; I won't respond. It feels good to me). She declined.

What followed was a topless HE with over the clothes roaming downstairs. Normally, I would tip $60 for this but the massage was solid, the teasing excellent, and the HE outstanding so I went $80.

She was disappointed apparently thinking we agreed to $100 for the over the clothes (long skirt and panties) roaming. I did reach up across her backside a couple times under the long skirt but never got around to the front under anything at all.

For context, I got a massage a week or two before from a less attractive woman who disrobed, creamed on my fingers, and went full bbbj cimws without so much as a discussion of tip and she got the hundy.

So, my question is, should I circle back and give her the extra $20 she wants? I don't go triple digits for anything short of full nude with full roaming or more so I'm not inclined to but there may have been a misunderstanding and I am not looking to leave hurt feelings.

Thoughts?

**FarmerPete** · 08-03-18 18:29

Originally Posted by Bismark [View Original Post]

So, I recently got a massage from a smoking hot woman I had not seen before. I'll file a report on that in the appropriate place once I settle my mind on whether I owe her another $20 or not. Hopefully, the good folks here can offer some advice on that score.

After the flip, we started getting into it. She wanted $100 for dress down to panties and over the panties roaming which I declined. I offered her $100 if she would lick my nipples (feel free to comment; I won't respond. It feels good to me). She declined.

What followed was a topless HE with over the clothes roaming downstairs. Normally, I would tip $60 for this but the massage was solid, the teasing excellent, and the HE outstanding so I went $80.

She was disappointed apparently thinking we agreed to $100 for the over the clothes (long skirt and panties) roaming. I did reach up across her backside a couple times under the long skirt but never got around to the front under anything at all.

For context, I got a massage a week or two before from a less attractive woman who disrobed, creamed on my fingers, and went full bbbj cimws without so much as a discussion of tip and she got the hundy.

So, my question is, should I circle back and give her the extra $20 she wants? I don't go triple digits for anything short of full nude with full roaming or more so I'm not inclined to but there may have been a misunderstanding and I am not looking to leave hurt feelings.

Thoughts?

If what you wrote is correct you owe her nothing.

**Bismark** · 08-03-18 17:39

So, I recently got a massage from a smoking hot woman I had not seen before. I'll file a report on that in the appropriate place once I settle my mind on whether I owe her another $20 or not. Hopefully, the good folks here can offer some advice on that score.

After the flip, we started getting into it. She wanted $100 for dress down to panties and over the panties roaming which I declined. I offered her $100 if she would lick my nipples (feel free to comment; I won't respond. It feels good to me). She declined.

What followed was a topless HE with over the clothes roaming downstairs. Normally, I would tip $60 for this but the massage was solid, the teasing excellent, and the HE outstanding so I went $80.

She was disappointed apparently thinking we agreed to $100 for the over the clothes (long skirt and panties) roaming. I did reach up across her backside a couple times under the long skirt but never got around to the front under anything at all.

For context, I got a massage a week or two before from a less attractive woman who disrobed, creamed on my fingers, and went full bbbj cimws without so much as a discussion of tip and she got the hundy.

So, my question is, should I circle back and give her the extra $20 she wants? I don't go triple digits for anything short of full nude with full roaming or more so I'm not inclined to but there may have been a misunderstanding and I am not looking to leave hurt feelings.

Thoughts?