"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[DoggieFan]

Out of curiosity, did you try telling her you'd drop the $300 debt? I've decided that's the best course in those situations. You're going to be out the $300 either way, but at least if you forgive the debt, you get to continue enjoying the girl. And it puts up a good barrier against her asking for any more advances. In the past I couldn't get past the feeling that letting the debt go was somehow a win for her and a loss for me, but if the girl is great then never seeing her again is a bigger loss.

I originally told her we could knock off 1. For the next three visits until we were even.

I had agreed to go up to 3. A visit for Greek, so she'd still clear 2.

Then I did tell her forget the $$$. Call it a late B-Day present. I got her an expensive bottle of Henesey for her B-Day in March.
She totally ghosted me so no communication. Yes, the 3. would have been a small price to pay for that quality UTR, I agree.
I’m especially kicking myself that I didnt take her to the Islands. As tight as her kitty was her starfish would have been amazing. I had all I could do to put a thumb in her ass when doing her doggie!

I loved tapping that young ebony bootie. Pierced nipples & clit, really hot tats. Clean as could be and really intelligent girl.

I think she just needed a short term income boost, plus, I usually can really ring their bell but didn't get the feeling the earth moved for her.

Her friend who I hooked up with texted me that she loaned her $30 & she ghosted her too. Not the sweetheart I thought she was.

[BlueDrive]

Hello Mongers, any info good or bad with this one? I thought I remembered a post a while back but can't seem to come across it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8ea86...b-66b38777f00a

[RogerOver]

No idea how to link to the older posts I referred to.

3-27-18 #14915.

https://www.seeking.com/member/79e98...5-98590168e4c6

Great site. Can't get over it.

That's definitely the girl I thought it was. Doesn't drink alcohol my ass. She also screenshots pics and conversations with guys and puts them on her fb page. She's a nutbag.

Actually, it was #14905. Here's a link:

Starky's warning about this Sarah chick

[Its That Guy]

No idea how to link to the older posts I referred to.

3-27-18 #14915.

https://www.seeking.com/member/79e98...5-98590168e4c6

Great site. Can't get over it.

That's definitely the girl I thought it was. Doesn't drink alcohol my ass. She also screenshots pics and conversations with guys and puts them on her fb page. She's a nutbag.

[TheMarto1]

She just finish might some one in some point it's going to pay her what she is asking, imagine a uglybitch asking for high end escort but with out sex or companionship just for send out pic this fuckking ***** one day is going to crash on a wall

GPS alll the way, told me she gets 500 per week just for videos and pics, I told her she was a very lucky girl.

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[Runnerj]

Thanks.

Your description pointed me to prior reviews here referring to major drama and posting of sd private info.

WTF?

Looks like you saved my ass.

99%sure same sb.

No idea how to link to the older posts I referred to.

3-27-18 #14915.

https://www.seeking.com/member/79e98...5-98590168e4c6

Great site. Can't get over it.

[UKnowWho]

Asked for 6., gave her 3.

You guessed it. Last time I saw her. I had her real cell number, dropped her off at her house, so knew where she lived and even had met one of her friends that I hooked up with later.

What a dummy. I thought about camping out at her house but it was only a few hundred down the drain and I have a lot to lose if she got pissed and wanted to make a stink. I had texted her from my real cellinthe beginning.

God I miss that young, sexy UTR. I had told her I could get her more "friends" but she said she was cool with me but didn't want to be a legit escort. I texted and called a few times but she probably blocked me. Totally zghosted🙄.

Dumb, dumb, dumb. I dream of that sweet ass and can't believe what a rookie mistake I made.

Out of curiosity, did you try telling her you'd drop the $300 debt? I've decided that's the best course in those situations. You're going to be out the $300 either way, but at least if you forgive the debt, you get to continue enjoying the girl. And it puts up a good barrier against her asking for any more advances. In the past I couldn't get past the feeling that letting the debt go was somehow a win for her and a loss for me, but if the girl is great then never seeing her again is a bigger loss.

[JustLonely]

Yes I've talked to her though text over the weekend she was supposedly at Smith mountain lake. Talked a good game so I figured what the he'll ready to leave home & everything goes quiet. All I had was street address so needless to say didn't waste my time. Apparently she fell asleep for like 6 hours begged me to come up turned her down on offer. Tried again Sunday same results!! Then got fooled into buying so videos $30 through PayPal sorry as they were she should have gave me $30 to look at them!! I don't think she has any intentions of meeting up think she's playing games!! Don't waste your time like I have!!

Busy girl texting from the lake as she texted on and off for hours with me. Finally got drunk it seemed as it was jibbersish at the end.

She did give me her real address to pick her up after the last minute cancelled date. But I told her I was busy. Haven't heard from her in 2 days so I guess she is reeling into another sucker. She seemed the typical teenager on her Facebook page. She wants more tattoos and wanted me to take her to get one. Luckily I passed on the vids.

[DoggieFan]

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;3932708]All depends on where you are in the lifecycle. First meetings, pay upon delivery of services. Usually as she is leaving (I have a friend in Retail who slides me a box of the Estee Lauder "Gift with PUrchase" from the beauty department -- I slide the cash inside the little carrying case and most women just love the idea of a gift with hidden cash vs sweaty wad of cash making them feel like a *****.

I have a long running arrangement with a very vague running tally. She needed some car repairs and a few medical bills over the months. So I rarely gave her any cash when we met, but was usually pre-gifting as she needed and I could afford, plus she booked and paid for hotel room so that was factored in. Have no firm idea where I stand on the tally, but I have a very happy cock and its not affecting my financial state, so I guess I'm in good shape.

I've succesfully bartered some fuck fests -- items at charity auctions are the best, though some of my clients give me freebies -- weekend in DC or NYC, spa days. Restaurants Ill never eat at. For them to use the travel prizes, they have to disclose their true identities so I can book it for them. That involves a level of trust that implies the pay off. Some I've pre-gifted and then boned them all night when I met them. Never had a "pre-paid" bail on me yet. Several like the idea of getting a treat they would never spend money on themselves, but desperately want.

Then there are "expense substitution" gifts. I don't give them cash, but they bring their cable or cell bill and after the first round, I log on and pay it off for them. My last one like this was about to lose her Comcast service -- same as I use at the office -- so I could pay it from my business account and it s a write off -- and no, I checked, there is no track back to my bank info for the SB to see.[/QUOTE

Last March I lucked into an awesome SB / UTR. Met at a auto repair place. Beautiful mid 20's ebony single Mom, had several part time jobs and a modeling gig. I over heard she had to leave her car so I offered her a ride home.

On the ride home I mentioned that I'd be willing to help her with expenses, that we could do friends with benefits. She asked how that would work and I very gently let her know I wanted in her pants.

She really needed some $ for the car repair. I offered to get a room, but she didn't have time. Went to a park and had an awesome BBBJCIM while I played with her kitty. Gave her a Benjamin to help her out.

Saw her the next two days in hotel. BBBJ, DATY, DATO, FIV, FIO, Doggie, Mish, CG, RCG, so gorgeous! Both times she was heading to a photo shoot so had a ball, but couldn't mess up her hair!

Lot's of texting back and forth. My regular SB got bagged with a screen shot of one of my texts from her live in BF and Norfolk Single Mom was very sympathetic. I went about 6 weeks without my #1 SB and meeting this one was just what the Doctor ordered.

Meet again and had a great time. She agreed to Greek but had mentioned she hadn't enjoyed it in the past. I told her I wanted to wait until we could take our time & ease her in, little wine, little lube, you know the drill.

Well I had been giving her a couple of Benjamins. She wanted to get some more ink to complete the sleeve on her arm. Asked for 6., gave her 3.

You guessed it. Last time I saw her. I had her real cell number, dropped her off at her house, so knew where she lived and even had met one of her friends that I hooked up with later.

What a dummy. I thought about camping out at her house but it was only a few hundred down the drain and I have a lot to lose if she got pissed and wanted to make a stink. I had texted her from my real cellinthe beginning.

God I miss that young, sexy UTR. I had told her I could get her more "friends" but she said she was cool with me but didn't want to be a legit escort. I texted and called a few times but she probably blocked me. Totally zghosted🙄.

Dumb, dumb, dumb. I dream of that sweet ass and can't believe what a rookie mistake I made.

Gave her way too much trust, way to early!

[Its That Guy]

Wish I found this forum last year.

Been looking to move up from ho (s) to SA since backpage crashed.

Am willing to pay more to get more but running into GPS (out of my range. And doubt have anything to offer for that price).

Or dead fish at the 2 $ range.

This one has not been on site for long time like the permanent babies that are a waster of time.

And has a interesting look. Mix or cauc and oriental.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8138b...2-959eb90e6fee

I know I am new here but not a lot of reviews in the forum, so if that is done private please PM.

Any info if can negotiate into my range or if has decent skills worth it.

I will contribute when I get going.

I know her in passing through a friend that's always dated younger girls. She's older than 22 iirc but don't quote me on that. She's also a ****. Didn't know she was in the game but that explains some things. Only had limited interactions with her.

[HottRod66]

GPS alll the way, told me she gets 500 per week just for videos and pics, I told her she was a very lucky girl.

Yes I've talked to her though text over the weekend she was supposedly at Smith mountain lake. Talked a good game so I figured what the he'll ready to leave home & everything goes quiet. All I had was street address so needless to say didn't waste my time. Apparently she fell asleep for like 6 hours begged me to come up turned her down on offer. Tried again Sunday same results!! Then got fooled into buying so videos $30 through PayPal sorry as they were she should have gave me $30 to look at them!! I don't think she has any intentions of meeting up think she's playing games!! Don't waste your time like I have!!

[BStreet]

Maybe there is a Marto1 translator or interpreter that can help us out.

What in the world are you trying to say? I don't understand your words. -. -. -. -or how you put them together.

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[Madaboutmax]

There is great advice in this thread highlighted in the Index also posted in the Richmond thread. Most of that information is based upon experienced SDs.

We've all made rookie mistakes. Dont beat yourarlf up, but learn fron it. Education can be expensive. There are many things I did early on that I now realize was foolish.

You should actually read through this thread, including the FAQ. That's insane, you're actually begging to be ripped off. What girl in her right mind would ever show after you sent 500 for nothing? If she was even real and female, that same day after getting your money she probably spent the night with a guy who knew how to handle this for half that and she banked 750, most of which was yours. Or your 500 went to some old fat dude in Russia running a troll farm that specializes in ripping people off online. One or the other occurred.

[TomDickNHarry]

You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.

You should actually read through this thread, including the FAQ. That's insane, you're actually begging to be ripped off. What girl in her right mind would ever show after you sent 500 for nothing? If she was even real and female, that same day after getting your money she probably spent the night with a guy who knew how to handle this for half that and she banked 750, most of which was yours. Or your 500 went to some old fat dude in Russia running a troll farm that specializes in ripping people off online. One or the other occurred.

[Runnerj]

I'm about 90 percent sure she is someone I saw 18 months ago. Same "I'm too good for you" look. If so she is cold and business like and drives a Prius. For someone new to trying Sugar Babies, I suggest you judge them by how well they reply to your messages. If she doesn't get a little flirty in a few messages between you, she probably won't be in person.

Thanks.

Your description pointed me to prior reviews here referring to major drama and posting of sd private info.

WTF?

Looks like you saved my ass.

99%sure same sb.