Bullshit that has Nothing to do With Pussy

[FruitNinja]

Long time lurker just giving my cent. As a disclaimer I'm a newbie monger in Chicago and have used agencies only in the US. I've kept seeing SA being brought up in a lot of these replies and often times argued as a better alternative for agencies. While I do recognize the certain advantages one may find in SA, I just find it very disingenuous to say that SA will replace agencies, or that SA is even a direct competitor of agencies.

The business model between the two is obviously different although both target the same consumers. SA is set up as a dating site and just like many other dating sites share the same pitfalls. Namely: scams, stings, and overall unreliability. So I just visited the SA thread and lo and behold the first three pages discussion surrounds about the same three things that I've just mentioned: fear of scams, stings, and flakey / fake girls. And this the driving factor for why I on one hand shies away from SA.

In my head I ask these essential questions: if I see a girl's profile in SA, am I confident that I would be able to see her? If I see a girl I want in SA, am I confident that she is a legit provider? Yes or No? If I see a girl I want in SA, and after putting in the effort of "maybe" spending time with her, am I confident that will lead to some sexy times? Yes or No? Do all the girls in SA have standardized / uniform rate / expectations / SOP of what they expect from me? Am I to sift through hundreds, perhaps thousands of profiles asking the same questions over and over to just have some good time?

How is this any better from just looking at ads and doing the same shit test? For a chance to raw dog a hoo er? I'm not sure that's even a positive preference all the time in the first place. If she's willing to raw dog you for a couple of $$, then she's most possibly raw dogging hundreds of mongers too. I don't know about the standards here but when I was mongering in the Philippines (where selling se x is illegal) massage (brothel) girls get tested at least once a month, some every 2 weeks. And they don't even allow bareback. So this "positive" isn't exactly an unsurmountable preference that will sway one to a SA girl over an agency one.

Then comes an even more laughable plea for the girl's treatment: Serving 7 up to 10 guys a day to make about half of the rate (oh the humanity!

Let's just say for example that a provider's rate is 400 and she gets to keep half of it. She gets to see 7 guys in a day and she makes 1400. If she were in SA and charges _half_ of that for the same service, spends about _twice_ amount of time per appt, and even do bareback (wow! What a deal), then you're saying that she does all that _hardwork_ to essentially net the same amount of $. And since she has lower volume than an agency girl, her net $ will also be lower.

Does this sound like a total BS to any of you? Either you're truly concerned for the girls or you're a total dirtbag to them.

First of all this game no matter what incineration is fraught with uncertainty. If you can't deal with that you need a wife or a girlfriend. Furthermore you lost all credibility with your assessment of the Philippines scene. I've been to the Philippines for many years straight. I even have an acquaintance from the US that runs a bar in AC. You're statement about girls getting tested is so off it's laughable.

[JohnSnowChi]

Good points but at the end of the day. Uncle Sam wants their money. And for the most part agencies don't report earnings that are p4 p. SA on the other hand, pays their taxes, and I'm most positive the government and media knows SB are selling themselves to SD, but look the other way for almost 12 years!

I mean shit, they attracted so much attention in 2006, they should have been taken down already since it's something forbidden in society but eventually it got accepted. Agencies on the other hand, well they can be secretive, but eventually they can be caught. Especially when the crack down begins. I think it will be agencies first then SA later.

I don't know what your objective is. Please stop. It's getting to a point where I don't like this site because you are so so annoying. And I have liked this site since I got into it. You don't kmow how agencies work, you have no idea of what's good for these girls but you go based on what you want. I love getting pussy for $350-500 hourly. I like that they know what's expecting. I don't want to do it like you so I don't go on the seeking arrangement part of this website. So Why don't you just go do your SA missions and leave us here to keep using this site for pussy and helping each other to know what pussy and hoofers are recommended. If you don't want to use Agencies just don't. Don't come on this site with your negativity as we will let you go do your Thrilling and exciting SA hunts so let us do our thing. Your sour attitude is repulsive.

Apologies A2 for this shit. We just want pussy.

[ChiCity01]

If BP got closed down then I don't see how exactly is SA going to avoid the same fate. The safe harbor of the host not being responsible for it's user's content / actions is gone. All it takes is for the feds to suspect that Johns are soliciting the SBs. They catch enough Johns and they will "crackdown" on SA too. Lawyering up will only delay the inevitable.

Most especially_ concerning is that SA has already received media notoriety. So really, a good sample size is all it takes for them to have justification. The more notorious a site is, the faster will it fall to its demise. Lawyer or not.

If everyone is to thrive in this environment the only way to go is be under the radar. SA pretty much puts a big neon sign on top of the SBs and SDs head saying, hey look at us! An agency website can stay under the radar and do camouflaging themselves. And as long as they don't attract attention then they can exist. I doubt you can say the same for SA, if anything, I'm going to bet SA gets targeted first before agencies actually. At worst, agencies close down their website. The website is merely a convenient place to display their girls and rates which can be easily shared in a different platform (IE messaging apps). SA on the other hand exists as a medium to advertise SBs. No medium, no fun.

Good points but at the end of the day. Uncle Sam wants their money. And for the most part agencies don't report earnings that are p4 p. SA on the other hand, pays their taxes, and I'm most positive the government and media knows SB are selling themselves to SD, but look the other way for almost 12 years!

I mean shit, they attracted so much attention in 2006, they should have been taken down already since it's something forbidden in society but eventually it got accepted. Agencies on the other hand, well they can be secretive, but eventually they can be caught. Especially when the crack down begins. I think it will be agencies first then SA later.

[JHobby]

They have the money to make themselves semi immune and they have lawyers to work around the legal system. Don't get me wrong, they can be shut down once the government cracks down on escorts websites or something similar to it like SA. But in the meantime they are still up and active. The app for SA on Apple wasn't active for awhile and somehow SA worked around it to get the app up again. Apple didn't want to be part of p4 p. But somehow they changed their views on SA.

SA is not backpage or or other websites similar to BP. SA takes higher precautions. As for agencies, well they don't have the same money as SA, and the law can crack down on agencies way easier than a big company such as SA.

If BP got closed down then I don't see how exactly is SA going to avoid the same fate. The safe harbor of the host not being responsible for it's user's content / actions is gone. All it takes is for the feds to suspect that Johns are soliciting the SBs. They catch enough Johns and they will "crackdown" on SA too. Lawyering up will only delay the inevitable.

Most especially_ concerning is that SA has already received media notoriety. So really, a good sample size is all it takes for them to have justification. The more notorious a site is, the faster will it fall to its demise. Lawyer or not.

If everyone is to thrive in this environment the only way to go is be under the radar. SA pretty much puts a big neon sign on top of the SBs and SDs head saying, hey look at us! An agency website can stay under the radar and do camouflaging themselves. And as long as they don't attract attention then they can exist. I doubt you can say the same for SA, if anything, I'm going to bet SA gets targeted first before agencies actually. At worst, agencies close down their website. The website is merely a convenient place to display their girls and rates which can be easily shared in a different platform (IE messaging apps). SA on the other hand exists as a medium to advertise SBs. No medium, no fun.

[Admin2]

They have the money to make themselves semi immune and they have lawyers to work around the legal system. Don't get me wrong, they can be shut down once the government cracks down on escorts websites or something similar to it like SA. But in the meantime they are still up and active. The app for SA on Apple wasn't active for awhile and somehow SA worked around it to get the app up again. Apple didn't want to be part of p4 p. But somehow they changed their views on SA.

SA is not backpage or or other websites similar to BP. SA takes higher precautions. As for agencies, well they don't have the same money as SA, and the law can crack down on agencies way easier than a big company such as SA.

James Larkin had shit tons of fucking money. No money no honey, hookers. The delusion will end. End of story.

[ChiCity01]

You keep saying crackdown an dsomehow SA is immune from it. How exactly is SA any safer from a "crackdown"? It's advertised as girls seeking men with "money". If that's not screaming pay 4 se x then I don't know what is. I'm surprised not more mongers are voicing out concerns with it in the first place. Not only are the girls advertising themselves, but the mongers are putting themselves out there in the open risking themselves on stings. It's the most convenient place to mark all the possible johns. What failsafe does SA have thet makes it immune?

They have the money to make themselves semi immune and they have lawyers to work around the legal system. Don't get me wrong, they can be shut down once the government cracks down on escorts websites or something similar to it like SA. But in the meantime they are still up and active. The app for SA on Apple wasn't active for awhile and somehow SA worked around it to get the app up again. Apple didn't want to be part of p4 p. But somehow they changed their views on SA.

SA is not backpage or or other websites similar to BP. SA takes higher precautions. As for agencies, well they don't have the same money as SA, and the law can crack down on agencies way easier than a big company such as SA.

[Admin2]

All those questions you have asked can be answered if there was a review board for SB and SD. If there was, and the SB know that their reputation is on the line to make money, it would be a lot easier for us mongers to fuck new girls rather than using agencies. Since there isn't a review website, well you take risks on a SB girl.

It's the same risk as meeting a escorts on CL, BP, and using a agency such as MCE, Angelis, EEC. But most girls on SA are real and ready to fuck. Sure it takes effort, but it's worth it in the end.

Girls on SA can act as independent escorts and make twice the amount, if they have the knowledge on how to screen and know how to be under the radar on SA. SA is a great platform to advertise or be known to get clients. Look how MCE, Angeli, and EEC got their girls LOL. Technically speaking, SB on SA are actually independent escorts but the owner of SA can't say that.

And yes, once the crackdown begins, SA will replace escort agencies. When that time comes, you will be remembering that this monger actually has a point.

There is, SB / SA girls are hookers. They don't fuck you unless you pay them so that makes them hookers. I know there is a popular delusion that they are not but they are. The "arrangement" they are seeking is a FINANCIAL arrangement.

Again, "sugar babies" with ads you can casually fuck are hookers, review them here.

A2.

[ChiCity01]

I have trouble believing that the girls at the agencies you've mentioned are seeing that many people per day. I have used these agencies, and with my schedule, my appointments are generally arranged rather hastily and without much notice. I generally end up seeing who I want and at the time I want. If the girls are banging that many guys on the days they're on, I don't see how I could have my pick of girl and time as frequently as I do. I'm not saying you are wrong; I'm just asking for some additional explication.

It's a actual fact. I've asked the girls whom are no longer working in the agency and the ones that are currently working there. They have mentioned that they see 7-10 a day. And that's what MCE expects from them since they have "standards".

The popular girls that Homer Guy mentioned, they probably see 8-10 Plus a day. Kylie and Autumn have been around many blocks in the city for more than 2 years multiple times LOL. They're worn out hookers and they are considered old in the industry. Who wants to see girls such as Kylie and Autumn who have over 100 reviews separately on TER in addition to the reviews listed on this website? I wouldn't. Toooo many Dicks in that pussy, mouth and ass. That is why I stick with SA now because for the most part, the girls there are fresh so called glamorized hookers.

And to what homer guys says, both Kylie and Autumn if they worked independently, they can command 600-800 a hour, but unfortunately the girls don't know about the industry too much to be independents. And if kykie and Autumn takes 50/50 cut, that's sad because without Kylie and Autumn MCE wouldn't be where they are now.

[JHobby]

All those questions you have asked can be answered if there was a review board for SB and SD. If there was, and the SB know that their reputation is on the line to make money, it would be a lot easier for us mongers to fuck new girls rather than using agencies. Since there isn't a review website, well you take risks on a SB girl.

It's the same risk as meeting a escorts on CL, BP, and using a agency such as MCE, Angelis, EEC. But most girls on SA are real and ready to fuck. Sure it takes effort, but it's worth it in the end.

Girls on SA can act as independent escorts and make twice the amount, if they have the knowledge on how to screen and know how to be under the radar on SA. SA is a great platform to advertise or be known to get clients. Look how MCE, Angeli, and EEC got their girls LOL. Technically speaking, SB on SA are actually independent escorts but the owner of SA can't say that.

And yes, once the crackdown begins, SA will replace escort agencies. When that time comes, you will be remembering that this monger actually has a point.

You keep saying crackdown an dsomehow SA is immune from it. How exactly is SA any safer from a "crackdown"? It's advertised as girls seeking men with "money". If that's not screaming pay 4 se x then I don't know what is. I'm surprised not more mongers are voicing out concerns with it in the first place. Not only are the girls advertising themselves, but the mongers are putting themselves out there in the open risking themselves on stings. It's the most convenient place to mark all the possible johns. What failsafe does SA have thet makes it immune?

[Cranial]

I have trouble believing that the girls at the agencies you've mentioned are seeing that many people per day. I have used these agencies, and with my schedule, my appointments are generally arranged rather hastily and without much notice. I generally end up seeing who I want and at the time I want. If the girls are banging that many guys on the days they're on, I don't see how I could have my pick of girl and time as frequently as I do. I'm not saying you are wrong; I'm just asking for some additional explication.

I'm not mad that agencies exist. I've used them before and before SA went online.

What I just don't like about these pimps, MCE, Angelis, EEC that they treat their girls unfairly. The keep 50/50 cut, are forced to see 7-10 men in a day and they are forced to fuck the owners raw dog. Come on now. If they raw dog it, every monger that books a app should raw dog their girls. Some girls may say it's untrue but they are sugar coating it to keep their jobs.

Once the crackdown begins, everyone will be using SA since they have some cushion around the law, agencies don't.

[ChiCity01]

Long time lurker just giving my cent. As a disclaimer I'm a newbie monger in Chicago and have used agencies only in the US. I've kept seeing SA being brought up in a lot of these replies and often times argued as a better alternative for agencies. While I do recognize the certain advantages one may find in SA, I just find it very disingenuous to say that SA will replace agencies, or that SA is even a direct competitor of agencies.

The business model between the two is obviously different although both target the same consumers. SA is set up as a dating site and just like many other dating sites share the same pitfalls. Namely: scams, stings, and overall unreliability. So I just visited the SA thread and lo and behold the first three pages discussion surrounds about the same three things that I've just mentioned: fear of scams, stings, and flakey / fake girls. And this the driving factor for why I on one hand shies away from SA.

In my head I ask these essential questions: if I see a girl's profile in SA, am I confident that I would be able to see her? If I see a girl I want in SA, am I confident that she is a legit provider? Yes or No? If I see a girl I want in SA, and after putting in the effort of "maybe" spending time with her, am I confident that will lead to some sexy times? Yes or No? Do all the girls in SA have standardized / uniform rate / expectations / SOP of what they expect from me? Am I to sift through hundreds, perhaps thousands of profiles asking the same questions over and over to just have some good time?

How is this any better from just looking at ads and doing the same shit test? For a chance to raw dog a hoo er? I'm not sure that's even a positive preference all the time in the first place. If she's willing to raw dog you for a couple of $$, then she's most possibly raw dogging hundreds of mongers too. I don't know about the standards here but when I was mongering in the Philippines (where selling se x is illegal) massage (brothel) girls get tested at least once a month, some every 2 weeks. And they don't even allow bareback. So this "positive" isn't exactly an unsurmountable preference that will sway one to a SA girl over an agency one.

Then comes an even more laughable plea for the girl's treatment: Serving 7 up to 10 guys a day to make about half of the rate (oh the humanity!

Let's just say for example that a provider's rate is 400 and she gets to keep half of it. She gets to see 7 guys in a day and she makes 1400. If she were in SA and charges _half_ of that for the same service, spends about _twice_ amount of time per appt, and even do bareback (wow! What a deal), then you're saying that she does all that _hardwork_ to essentially net the same amount of $. And since she has lower volume than an agency girl, her net $ will also be lower.

Does this sound like a total BS to any of you? Either you're truly concerned for the girls or you're a total dirtbag to them.

All those questions you have asked can be answered if there was a review board for SB and SD. If there was, and the SB know that their reputation is on the line to make money, it would be a lot easier for us mongers to fuck new girls rather than using agencies. Since there isn't a review website, well you take risks on a SB girl.

It's the same risk as meeting a escorts on CL, BP, and using a agency such as MCE, Angelis, EEC. But most girls on SA are real and ready to fuck. Sure it takes effort, but it's worth it in the end.

Girls on SA can act as independent escorts and make twice the amount, if they have the knowledge on how to screen and know how to be under the radar on SA. SA is a great platform to advertise or be known to get clients. Look how MCE, Angeli, and EEC got their girls LOL. Technically speaking, SB on SA are actually independent escorts but the owner of SA can't say that.

And yes, once the crackdown begins, SA will replace escort agencies. When that time comes, you will be remembering that this monger actually has a point.

[JHobby]

I'm not mad that agencies exist. I've used them before and before SA went online.

What I just don't like about these pimps, MCE, Angelis, EEC that they treat their girls unfairly. The keep 50/50 cut, are forced to see 7-10 men in a day and they are forced to fuck the owners raw dog. Come on now. If they raw dog it, every monger that books a app should raw dog their girls. Some girls may say it's untrue but they are sugar coating it to keep their jobs.

Once the crackdown begins, everyone will be using SA since they have some cushion around the law, agencies don't.

Long time lurker just giving my cent. As a disclaimer I'm a newbie monger in Chicago and have used agencies only in the US. I've kept seeing SA being brought up in a lot of these replies and often times argued as a better alternative for agencies. While I do recognize the certain advantages one may find in SA, I just find it very disingenuous to say that SA will replace agencies, or that SA is even a direct competitor of agencies.

The business model between the two is obviously different although both target the same consumers. SA is set up as a dating site and just like many other dating sites share the same pitfalls. Namely: scams, stings, and overall unreliability. So I just visited the SA thread and lo and behold the first three pages discussion surrounds about the same three things that I've just mentioned: fear of scams, stings, and flakey / fake girls. And this the driving factor for why I on one hand shies away from SA.

In my head I ask these essential questions: if I see a girl's profile in SA, am I confident that I would be able to see her? If I see a girl I want in SA, am I confident that she is a legit provider? Yes or No? If I see a girl I want in SA, and after putting in the effort of "maybe" spending time with her, am I confident that will lead to some sexy times? Yes or No? Do all the girls in SA have standardized / uniform rate / expectations / SOP of what they expect from me? Am I to sift through hundreds, perhaps thousands of profiles asking the same questions over and over to just have some good time?

How is this any better from just looking at ads and doing the same shit test? For a chance to raw dog a hoo er? I'm not sure that's even a positive preference all the time in the first place. If she's willing to raw dog you for a couple of $$, then she's most possibly raw dogging hundreds of mongers too. I don't know about the standards here but when I was mongering in the Philippines (where selling se x is illegal) massage (brothel) girls get tested at least once a month, some every 2 weeks. And they don't even allow bareback. So this "positive" isn't exactly an unsurmountable preference that will sway one to a SA girl over an agency one.

Then comes an even more laughable plea for the girl's treatment: Serving 7 up to 10 guys a day to make about half of the rate (oh the humanity!

Let's just say for example that a provider's rate is 400 and she gets to keep half of it. She gets to see 7 guys in a day and she makes 1400. If she were in SA and charges _half_ of that for the same service, spends about _twice_ amount of time per appt, and even do bareback (wow! What a deal), then you're saying that she does all that _hardwork_ to essentially net the same amount of $. And since she has lower volume than an agency girl, her net $ will also be lower.

Does this sound like a total BS to any of you? Either you're truly concerned for the girls or you're a total dirtbag to them.

[Vicdemoan]

I'm not mad that agencies exist. I've used them before and before SA went online.

What I just don't like about these pimps, MCE, Angelis, EEC that they treat their girls unfairly. The keep 50/50 cut, are forced to see 7-10 men in a day and they are forced to fuck the owners raw dog. Come on now. If they raw dog it, every monger that books a app should raw dog their girls. Some girls may say it's untrue but they are sugar coating it to keep their jobs.

Once the crackdown begins, everyone will be using SA since they have some cushion around the law, agencies don't.

Well Modeling Avenue is owned by a female. I've known her for many years now. She doesn't extort sex from her girls and she does keep 60% instead of 50%.

[ChiCity01]

You know, these agencies are proving pussy for us, and we are enjoying it. If this doesn't work for you then move on and go do your SA missions. You are mad that agencies exist? Is that it? Do you think that any of us will care what you have to say, or that we will stop booking based on your 1 cent? You are a troll and you are not contributing to anything. All you negativity clearly shows the kind of personality you have and in no way would a girl From SA keep seeing you. With your negativity, it's very likely that you were black listed so your lashing out here.

Moving on.

I'm not mad that agencies exist. I've used them before and before SA went online.

What I just don't like about these pimps, MCE, Angelis, EEC that they treat their girls unfairly. The keep 50/50 cut, are forced to see 7-10 men in a day and they are forced to fuck the owners raw dog. Come on now. If they raw dog it, every monger that books a app should raw dog their girls. Some girls may say it's untrue but they are sugar coating it to keep their jobs.

Once the crackdown begins, everyone will be using SA since they have some cushion around the law, agencies don't.

[SumGuyFrmThChi]

I received prescreen approval from EEC prior to the website shutdown. I now receive updates on schedules every day. Sometimes both text and WhatsApp. I have told them one or the other but not both which they seemed to oblige for the most part. I have also asked if it was possible to just message them when I would be in the area for the daily schedule. This seems to be too much of an inconvenience for them. The really annoying part of this besides getting updated every day which I don't need is the photos automatically go into my album. Does anyone know how to stop this from happening within the application? I'm to the point of telling them to take me off their list. It's not like I'm in the area all that often and able to drop $$ 5 on a regular basis. I got approved back then when they had a provider who pleased my appetite.

To stop the photos from saving to your camera roll, in WhatsApp, go to Settings then choose Chat. From there make sure "Save to Camera Roll" is set off. That's all ya need to do!