General Reports

**PrimalUrge** · 08-31-18 15:50

Has anyone heard from either Jenn Savage or Alana Magic lately? There have been no answer from inquiries from either one.

**GrnwGuy2** · 08-28-18 07:02

Originally Posted by Charlie441 [View Original Post]

Unlike a licensed massage therapist having to be licensed by skill, you wouldn't at all. More demonstrated skill or knowledge by the state would be for driving a car. Nor would clientelle be tracked, as there's no need / call for that.

That's not to say there wouldn't be complications like supply / demand in the end. And drama in breaking the rules when allowing a gal failing to take or failure of said monthly test, etc.

There is rarely any skill component involved in licensing massage therapists. None in relicensing. But, hoops to jump through that make money for various entities, and an interesting plethura of information that is supposed to be kept. There is no need for clientele to be tracked for massage therapists, but reasons have been supplied. Until the state law in 2009 superceded local laws, in many cities, it was just as hard to be a legal massage therapist, if not harder, than a massage parlor.

If the government gets involved in licensing, they will keep expanding control. And there will be things both clients and prostitutes would have to do that would increase price and hassle. Probably massive record keeping of clients so that if someone gets an STD, everyone can get notified. STD tests would cost more since the government would get involved. Because of licensing, it would be harder to get started, reducing supply, increasing cost.

I'd just as soon the government get out. Even more than it is. But, I really don't want the government to start controlling this.

"Hello, I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you."

**Charlie441** · 08-28-18 00:41

Originally Posted by GrnwGuy2 [View Original Post]

Are you really sure that you want the government more involved in this than they already are?

Ask a licensed massage therapist what is required of them, especially for records on clients. How many here would like to see permanent records kept of all their visits?

Unlike a licensed massage therapist having to be licensed by skill, you wouldn't at all. More demonstrated skill or knowledge by the state would be for driving a car. Nor would clientelle be tracked, as there's no need / call for that.

That's not to say there wouldn't be complications like supply / demand in the end. And drama in breaking the rules when allowing a gal failing to take or failure of said monthly test, etc.

**GrnwGuy2** · 08-27-18 04:39

Originally Posted by Bcronker [View Original Post]

I've never seen anything wrong with the idea of paying for sex between two consenting adults. However I think the crime rate of rape, murder, and sex tracking would rise along with the Sexually transmitted diseases If it was made completely legal without any stipulations.

L say make it legal, Tax it and make it a monthly law they have to have STDs tests. All they would have to is hand out special licenses like they do for the people who conceal carry to.

Determine who would have to pay taxes and for the ones to lazy to get a liscense to sell their body would then suffer.

Consequences if caught.

Are you really sure that you want the government more involved in this than they already are?

Ask a licensed massage therapist what is required of them, especially for records on clients. How many here would like to see permanent records kept of all their visits?

**Benz1** · 08-27-18 01:48

Originally Posted by NoseJelly [View Original Post]

I vote for Professor Benz as the Secretary of Poon and Governmental Affairs!

Thanks for the Nomination NJ, I accept.

I will Always Hire the Best Women For the Knob.

**NoseJelly** · 08-26-18 21:15

Originally Posted by Benz1 [View Original Post]

They would help our hobby by making sex for sale legal between consenting adults.
Wouldn't it be nice?

I vote for Professor Benz as the Secretary of Poon and Governmental Affairs!

**Fixxxer2018** · 08-26-18 15:29

Originally Posted by Bcronker [View Original Post]

I've never seen anything wrong with the idea of paying for sex between two consenting adults. However I think the crime rate of rape, murder, and sex tracking would rise along with the Sexually transmitted diseases If it was made completely legal without any stipulations.

L say make it legal, Tax it and make it a monthly law they have to have STDs tests. All they would have to is hand out special licenses like they do for the people who conceal carry to.

Determine who would have to pay taxes and for the ones to lazy to get a liscense to sell their body would then suffer.

Consequences if caught.

1000% agree with you. Well said.

**Fixxxer2018** · 08-26-18 15:28

Originally Posted by Benz1 [View Original Post]

They would help our hobby by making sex for sale legal between consenting adults.

Wouldn't it be nice?

For some it may be a hobby but for others such as myself its a curse sometimes. Not calling you wrong but I don't think the word hobby applies here. A lot of women who do this are drug addicts, pimped out, homeless or have sex addiction. As far as the clients I think you would be surprised how many of us have sex addiction or some type of mental issue with impulsively and or the need for risky encounters. I'm all for legalizing prostitution if its done right. Afterall it is the oldest trade in the books.

**Member #5763** · 08-26-18 15:10

Originally Posted by Benz1 [View Original Post]

They would help our hobby by making sex for sale legal between consenting adults.

Wouldn't it be nice?

I've never seen anything wrong with the idea of paying for sex between two consenting adults. However I think the crime rate of rape, murder, and sex tracking would rise along with the Sexually transmitted diseases If it was made completely legal without any stipulations.

L say make it legal, Tax it and make it a monthly law they have to have STDs tests. All they would have to is hand out special licenses like they do for the people who conceal carry to.

Determine who would have to pay taxes and for the ones to lazy to get a liscense to sell their body would then suffer.

Consequences if caught.

**Fixxxer2018** · 08-26-18 13:27

I'm bipolar and when I'm impulsive or manic I seek out these adventures. I think Michigan should legalize this with rules that the ladies pay taxes and have to prove they are clean and std free. Maybe even same for the clients. Maybe just allow brothels like they have in nevada.

**Benz1** · 08-26-18 10:48

Originally Posted by BadBoyFourU [View Original Post]

Libertarian ideals are unworkable for the simple reasons that they do not reflect rational realistic human behavior and humans are not clones of one another. Their small government syllabus is dependant upon the protection of property and individual rights and national defence and only works if each individual are equally talented, educated and materially profitable. Since this is not the case in real world scenarios, inequality would manifest and over time multiply to the point where with no system of checks and balances, an elitist society would evolve. This society of privilege would wish to protect their status and this would bring down the entire house of cards, as the rich mobilize to protect their wealth. Sound familiar? Libertarian governments are inherently unstable and is why you do not see any currently.

They would help our hobby by making sex for sale legal between consenting adults.

Wouldn't it be nice?

**BadBoyFourU** · 08-26-18 10:14

Originally Posted by Benz1 [View Original Post]

Michigan Libertarian Party of Michigan had their 2018 state convention yesterday in Detroit.

We might find the Amendments to their platform interesting and helpful to providers and our hobby.

Proposal J. Vice Laws.

1. Government should confine itself to protecting individuals from aggression, coercion and deceit. We oppose all laws and regulations that attempt to protect individuals from the consequences of their own behavior. While not necessarily condoning such activities, we advocate the repeal of all laws criminalizing gambling, possession and sale of drugs and alcohol. All those presently incarcerated or ever convicted solely for the commision for these victimless crimes should be pardoned and their records expunged.

We call for the repeal of all laws criminalizing actions between consenting adults.
Libertarians support the repeal of all laws criminalizing the offer of sexual services for compensation by consenting adults, as well as the repeal of all laws criminalizing voluntarily seeking out sexual services for hire.

Our Hobby does not have to be a Risky Business

Stay safe.

Libertarian ideals are unworkable for the simple reasons that they do not reflect rational realistic human behavior and humans are not clones of one another. Their small government syllabus is dependant upon the protection of property and individual rights and national defence and only works if each individual are equally talented, educated and materially profitable. Since this is not the case in real world scenarios, inequality would manifest and over time multiply to the point where with no system of checks and balances, an elitist society would evolve. This society of privilege would wish to protect their status and this would bring down the entire house of cards, as the rich mobilize to protect their wealth. Sound familiar? Libertarian governments are inherently unstable and is why you do not see any currently.

**Benz1** · 08-26-18 00:14

Michigan Libertarian Party of Michigan had their 2018 state convention yesterday in Detroit.

We might find the Amendments to their platform interesting and helpful to providers and our hobby.

Proposal J. Vice Laws.

1. Government should confine itself to protecting individuals from aggression, coercion and deceit. We oppose all laws and regulations that attempt to protect individuals from the consequences of their own behavior. While not necessarily condoning such activities, we advocate the repeal of all laws criminalizing gambling, possession and sale of drugs and alcohol. All those presently incarcerated or ever convicted solely for the commision for these victimless crimes should be pardoned and their records expunged.

We call for the repeal of all laws criminalizing actions between consenting adults.
Libertarians support the repeal of all laws criminalizing the offer of sexual services for compensation by consenting adults, as well as the repeal of all laws criminalizing voluntarily seeking out sexual services for hire.

Our Hobby does not have to be a Risky Business

Stay safe.

**Benz1** · 08-25-18 10:13

Originally Posted by TokyoDawson [View Original Post]

Anyone have details of exactly how they went about this? News says investigation went on from February to June and some violent behavior with the girls was observed. Seems like they could have been recording sessions where providers worked with the cops. Does not seem like a simple place and ad and nab who shows up kind of deal. Think it may be good to stay away from providers for a couple months who spent time in the Kent County Hilton? Reports in another thread about a provider that was picked up and back out within days makes me wonder what kind of deal may have been struck.

You could be right, nothing happened with the date I had with Dakoda.

She must not be part of any future stings.

Stay safe, happy hunting.

**TokyoDawson** · 08-25-18 07:35

Originally Posted by EdMonger [View Original Post]

Check out LifeExplorer's post in Northern Michigan Forum today.

Anyone have details of exactly how they went about this? News says investigation went on from February to June and some violent behavior with the girls was observed. Seems like they could have been recording sessions where providers worked with the cops. Does not seem like a simple place and ad and nab who shows up kind of deal. Think it may be good to stay away from providers for a couple months who spent time in the Kent County Hilton? Reports in another thread about a provider that was picked up and back out within days makes me wonder what kind of deal may have been struck.